Na, nothing. Did an update today. Nothing bad happened at al, Because why would it?
still read “unattended updates” as “unintended updates” …
Windows does both
It doesn’t. It will require you to reboot for every god-damned line of code that has changed.
Only when you actually want it to reboot on its own
When you don’t want that, need it to wait for some reason, that’s when it remembers how to reboot on its own
I swear I heard my PC wake up in the middle of the night on its own several times, back when I used to run W10 on bare metal - god knows what it was doing
Mine would wake up and go into my kitchen and eat my Cheetos and drink half of my vodka.
Oh, you actually believed that story? Whoops. Sorry! It was actually me who ate your Cheetos and downed your Vodka.
Are you me?
spiderman.jpg
If it was the second Tuesday of the month, probably updating.
Firefox kept crashing because of explicit sync. Nothing new for an nvidia user such as myself. Still never going back to xorg.
Oh sweet not just me then! Hoping this one gets fixed soon
The new nvidia driver has explicit sync, wayland perfect for me since I updated it a week or so ago.
Yes it was perfect in Wayland till yesterday when I updated and fire fox started crashing with explicit sync errors
Yeah, I just finished my upgrade this morning and got crashing, easy downgrade but hopefully wayland and nvidia can play nice consistently soon lol
wuh oh, I haven’t updated in a while, only a couple times since the explicit sync fix and I haven’t had any issues. I was just planning on doing that today though…
Thanks, I wish the same for you friend! I use arch so they’re pretty fast at fixing stuff. Yesterday they pushed an update that minimized the crashing but it’ll probably be totally fixed by today or tomorrow unless it’s a driver bug.
I was a terrible citizen and ignored the problem instead of reporting the bug. I just wanted to get some coding done so I just clicked the restart Firefox button over and over. That minor fix did wonders though! It only crashed two more times to my recollection.
Set MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=0 before starting Firefox and it doesn’t crash anymore
Thanks! If it gets annoying I’ll give it a shot.
God, I love Read-only Friday where nothing bad ever happens before the weekend.
Speak for yourself. I am preparing for a high school camp on Monday and all our sound system isn’t working. Stupid proprietary crappy sound boards.
Bless your heart.
Just another boring day on Linux huh
Time to go to BSD!!
Someone should create a distro called FreeBSOD
FreeOfBSOD
You can get notified when they make progress on *BSD Derivatives
Guess you chose the right platform to run to,
I’ve found it funny how many people think they need to defend windows by saying " this could’ve happened to Linux too!!"
Okay, sure. Yeah you’re right about Linux being just as insecure as windows too 😉
Something similar did happen on Linux clients with CrowdStrike installed not too long ago lol
Sounds a bit like its a bad idea to install CrowdStrike regardless of the system 🙃
lol yeah that’s a glowing review.
“Oh, we can fuck other shit up too!”
Anything to defend windows
Noone needs to defend Windows. We need to defend the truth. And the truth is that this was not a Windows issue. It’s a Crowdstrike issue.
Windows being an insecure shit show is no one else’s fault though. Not sure why that draws an argument. It’s well known
True. But nothing to do with this incident. That’s the point.
checkbox compliance – companies are required to have something in place that checks the box so they can pass the audit
If you’re lucky, you only gave to have the software installed - but not running.
To those many Linux users who took a look at their circumstances and said “I definitely need antivirus software!”
CrowdStrike does more than anti-virus and yes enterprise Linux installations need a lot of security controls that average Linux users don’t need.
Ok fine simps, Linux is exactly as shitty as windows this was totally only a coincidence
Bruh, I’ve used Linux for over 10 years. I run Arch on my laptop and have a homelab powered by Proxmox, Debian, and OPNSense. I don’t run any AV in my lab but do follow other security practices.
At work it’s a different story. Products like CrowdStrike also collect logs, scan for vulnerabilities, provide graphing and dashboarding capabilities, provide integrations into ticketing platforms for investigation and remediation by security teams, and more. AV is often required because Windows users can upload infected files to Linux-run SMB shares. Products like CrowdStrike often satisfy requirements set by cybersecurity insurance.
This is not simping, this is not Linux vs Windows. You just clearly have no experience in the enterprise Linux space and business security requirements.
I don’t need to argue about windows vs Linux. You’re overcomplicating and misinterpreting my point and it’s no longer worth it to me because you clearly are prioritizing defense
Edit: let’s see if we can get to 100 downvotes here. I mean this shit is just so offensive right?
Yeah but 14th Gen Intel CPUs are still failing regardless of your OS.
Proudly an AMD user for 25 years now :)
Even bulldozer?
Nobody but the most hardcore AMD enthusiasts used Bulldozer. The 2010s was a tough decade for AMD, to say the least. It wasn’t until AM5 came out that I finally switched back to Team Red. Got too used to LGA sockets.
I still don’t know why they thought sticking with PGA was a good idea… The amount of processors that were ripped out of their sockets is insane
not familiar. Their processors tend to last me ~5 years so it’s not like I bought every model available
I think people are missing the point here. The biggest problem was not that the update was bricking the machines, that could’ve happened to Linux/macOS/BSD etc. The problem is that the solution to the problem is to MANUALLY access the machine, get into safe mode and type some commands. This is insane. And you should be able to EASILY disable automatic updates for apps like that on Windows Server.
I dunno, I’d say them deploying an update that bricked machines at the scale they did shows they didn’t test it very well at smaller scales. They could have even still used their users as beta testers, just needed to do a subset of them first.
Crowdstrike exists for Linux. Are their reports their update affected Linux servers? I have not read that anywhere.
Nothing much, just getting far fewer client emails for some reason…
The SAMBA is sounding real quiet today…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-19/what-is-crowdstrike-outage-explained/104120260
This has happened and taken a bunch of services down around the world.
What a garbage.
Just use Linux, SELinux, strong sandboxing, repositories, nonexecutable home directories, strong access control, offline backups.
How about a testing environment separate from production
and phased rollouts …
And my axe
I watched a ocean of computers go dead on the floor because I couldn’t convince the sysadmin to do exactly that when pushing a major change.
Any more details?
This sounds like the setup to a fun story.
Best I can do is push it worldwide on a Friday morning
Does that cost money?
Yes. And time.
We make a lot more money by testing in production, and let the users tell us what’s wrong. It’s much faster.
We’ve successfully replaced the entire support team with an HTML form creating tickets for the one developer.
Surefire way to receive that efficiency performance bonus.
But how do I integrate everything into Microsoft 365 with that snazzy OneDrive feature? /s
You will escort us to sector zero zero one.
Crowd strike did this to Linux in April.
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/7068083
interesting it uses eBPF.
Damn
Pretty sure it’s happened in Linux before, but because it’s much less users, obviously it won’t have same global outage like what happens now
I mean, I run Fedora and ran many others and had multiple crashes.
Fedora Atomic Desktops not anymore, but still not perfect.
And log monitoring with off machine collections
Designing my own UI framework from scratch, not much really…
Hopefully a js framework?
I’m still on the design stage of it, but yes, I do plan for it to be a JS framework.
Good, we have been in a drought of js frameworks lately: https://dayssincelastjsframework.com/
Joking aside, that’s your selling feature?
Dude, idk, I’m mostly doing it because I’ve got nothing better to do (and because I wanna add it toy CV) and to see if I can do it. I’m most likely gonna whip up a quick website, built with it and license it under MIT after it’s done…
That’s cool, post a link here when you’re done, I want to see what you cook up.
I’ve been driving Linux as my main for just about a month now and I didn’t think anything of it until I booted into Windows and had to deal with forced updates. Almost Done? JFC.
I deleted my windows partition after about 5 months of using Mint daily. Very freeing.
Welcome to the Dark Side! Mint is a very good choice in disto. I admire the stability, usability, and having just enough wiggle room to let me set things up to my taste. You are going to like Mint!
Mint is the gateway drug
Not the official account, but still funny.
Just kind of pondering my key combinations in tmux, vim, etc. I’ve started using “layers” and “combo keys” in my keyboard layout and it’s really showing me what’s possible
Powerful combo, mastering shortcut keys opens up a whole realm of relaxed posture. Mouse is effective but weak in comparison to efficiency of the keyboard at least when editing text files.
Yes I’m starting to realise that with layers one need never leave to home row at all.
I haven’t even messed with mouse macros, which I’m hopeful will reduce my need to leave the keeb even moreso
I’ve started bidding on a t60 ibm thinkpad, that’ll get arch on it soon
I love @Iinux (iinux) on twitter.
It’s summer, I’ll warm myself by that garbage fire in the winter.
