I tried SimpleX but the VPN kill switch on my phone prevents syncing with my computer.

I use telegram primarily as a note taking app with sync features.

Occasionally I send files to friends, so having easy set up for tech illiterate would be great.

    • Clot
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      Signal can’t do shit Canit sync messages b/w devices seamlessly? Doe it have unlimited storage? Channels? Isn’t upload size limit 100mb? Telegram has 4gb. Advance Bots? Good Ui/Ux? High quality stickers? Big public groups? Mini apps? Lol, signal is NOT an alternative to telegram as a whole, it can only partly replace its messaging functionality

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        Signal is private. This is c/privacy.

        Telegram is not private at all, but has channels and big groups and even, yes, mini-apps.

        So Telegram is not an alternative to Signal either, it doesn’t even start solving problems that are solved genially in Signal.

        • Clot
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          And the post is about telegram alternative?

          • @rottingleaf
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            Try Nostr, I dunno. Or VKontakte if you want the Telegram functionality of sending transcripts of your communications to FSB.

            • Clot
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              Ok conspiracy theorist signal fan

              • @rottingleaf
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                You should learn something about things you use before talking about conspiracy theories.

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    I think Matrix is the way to go because you can host your own server and be completely self hosting without a 3rd party involved.

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      To add to this, XMPP is much cheaper to host and offers basically the same features when it comes to what OP needs. I host Prosody and it uses so little resources you could probably get it running on the cheapest server you could find.

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        It’s probably 15 years ago I used XMPP the last time. Back then there were many compatibility problems between the apps and especially on the mobile phone with push notifications, etc. There were problems sending media and VOIP calls were non existent outside of the Google clients.

        My guess is that some of those things improved but I have not heard anyone in my circles using it, especially since Matrix became a bit more popular, most of the Open Source projects on IRC also moved to Matrix.

        • kali
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          Yeah, XMPP has changed a loooott since then.

          XMPP’s main problems at the moment are clients, in my opinion. There’s 3 main clients for PC; one is 100% python (including frontend) and breaks semi-regularly, one does not officially support Windows and thus cuts out a large portion of the community + doesn’t have as many features as others, and one lacks features and looks extremely outdated. The state on iOS is even worse as well, and Android is fine but could be better.

          If you’re considering XMPP again, I’d recommend waiting a few months for Prose https://prose.org/ to fully release, it looks like it’ll improve the experience a lot.

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              Python: Gajim Doesn’t support Windows: Dino Outdated: PSI+

              • @[email protected]
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                Dino is nice in GNOME as it’s native Gtk which gets you a nicely integrated and modern look and feel. It’s a little low on feature but fully usable.

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      I’ve gone this route. Not for the faint of heart. If you’re not self-hosting savvy, but you know someone that hosts a server, absolutely sign up with them. Or use a local public server like pikaviestin.fi, which provides accounts for finnish citizens.

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        This. I‘m hosting a couple matrix servers and have many friends who have a ton of issues. It really depends on the admin and how tech savvy everyone involved is. If you cant be arsed to understand how key sharing works and check out which is the best client for you, matrix might bot be the best choice. I love it, personally but I suggest it rarely since tech illiterate users tend to get really upset about a free product not matching their insane standards.

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      From a security standpoint it leaves something to be desired but for just notes it is fine. It also is good for public rooms

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    Telegram as a note taking app?.. Now that’s one I haven’t heard before

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    Just a heads up about people’s suggestions on signal. If you don’t open your desktop client often and it needs to be logged back in it will not sync your latest notes to self messages (perhaps other messages too).

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    Signal?

    edit / wait - an alternative for telegram as a note taking app??

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    I was a Signal defender (although I still use it because it’s better than Telegram or WhatsApp) but now I’m more pushing for DeltaChat, Matrix and XMPP.

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    Unfortunately the Signal recommended by many people may not work for you, it cannot work on multiple mobile devices at the same time, for example on a smartphone and tablet.

    I don’t understand why no one recommends Jami? It’s the only messenger that works without a server at all. And yes, it has the ability to forward messages to itself (to use as a note) and works on any devices at the same time.

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      I am using Signal on two android phones, one android tablet and a linux PC. What do you mean it cannot work on multiple devices?

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          It works on up to 5 devices at the same time. I’ve used signal on my phone, with it also open on my computer with zero problems. Syncing is instantaneous.

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            Open Signal rewiews on GooglePlay, there’s every third review about this situation. I forgot to mention, i’m talking about the Android version. The ios version works on ipad at the same time

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      I would describe Jami as “not good”

      For starters they lack a security audit and review. It is a huge code base and no one seems to have looked to close.

      Next it doesn’t work reliably. Messages frequently get lost in the network and will never arrive.

      The nail in the coffin is the broken UI and app instability.

  • @[email protected]
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    signal is the simplest alternative, it’s actually better than telegram since it doesn’t save data

  • @[email protected]
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    Well signal also has the note to self.

    People will hate this, but WhatsApp is probably the second best and convenient to most people. (But if your friends are willing to get signal, do it.) In fact it was always better than telegram, there I said it.

    Also there’s many great note taking apps that have a sync feature. Joplin for one.

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    I just have some syncthing shared folders with friends/family. It may be a little weird to set up, but once there, it’s seamless.

  • southsamurai
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    Honestly? For that limited use, there’s really no need to switch.

    However, if you’re willing to do a little extra effort, Join, by joao apps can do what you’re wanting. The notes is easy as pie. Sending files to your own devices is easy. Then you just need a different file sharing method for others.

    It’s not a 1:1 replacement, obviously, but sending files via email, or other methods, when it’s only occasional isn’t something that needs to be part of a messenger service that you aren’t primarily using for messages in the first place. Keeping all your eggs in one basket isn’t always as good.