That would have been preferable to a holodeck simulation. Ugh, what a weak way to go out, especially considering how great the rest of that last season was. Berman and Braga should’ve let Manny Coto (the showrunner, whom they hired to run the show, FFS) write and direct the finale, too bad ego had to get in the way.
At a very basic level, the concept could work - jump into the future to show how the crew’s adventures are remembered. Babylon 5 succeeded at the same kind of idea for their excellent Season 4 finale.
But B5 showed that the characters left a profound and enduring legacy. In These Are The Voyages, Riker consumes the story of Trip’s death like it’s a mildly engaging episode of a daytime soap - between the scenes of a better episode that works much better without the addition. It’s just the worst execution you could imagine.
I thought it wasn’t supposed to be the finale. UPN canceled it too abruptly and the episode was supposed to be a stupid April Fool joke when they filmed it. Then Berman decided to Berman because he was retiring.
If Lower Decks hasn’t made These Are The Voyages… officially canon yet and I missed it, I would not be at all shocked if they do this season considering they relish making everything Trekkies hate about Star Trek 100% canon. (See the salamanders from Threshold.)
So I threw this out this morning half asleep without thinking about it. I’m sold. Raffi would happily take Mariner under her wing, or hate her. Maybe both.
It was all a holodeck simulation. They are stationed on a ship lower on the pecking order than a Cali class…like a legacy Oberth class that only transports mundane material within our solar system
I don’t see how they could completely screw the pooch[ie].
You threw me with Cerritos. I thought this was an Enterprise joke.
What a poor ending that was.
Somebody suggested a better ending which I like too. Having Archer flash out and quantum leap into a cowboy or something and go “oh boy”
That would have been preferable to a holodeck simulation. Ugh, what a weak way to go out, especially considering how great the rest of that last season was. Berman and Braga should’ve let Manny Coto (the showrunner, whom they hired to run the show, FFS) write and direct the finale, too bad ego had to get in the way.
At a very basic level, the concept could work - jump into the future to show how the crew’s adventures are remembered. Babylon 5 succeeded at the same kind of idea for their excellent Season 4 finale.
But B5 showed that the characters left a profound and enduring legacy. In These Are The Voyages, Riker consumes the story of Trip’s death like it’s a mildly engaging episode of a daytime soap - between the scenes of a better episode that works much better without the addition. It’s just the worst execution you could imagine.
I thought it wasn’t supposed to be the finale. UPN canceled it too abruptly and the episode was supposed to be a stupid April Fool joke when they filmed it. Then Berman decided to Berman because he was retiring.
What do you mean? Terra Prime was a great finale. There was nothing else after that.
If Lower Decks hasn’t made These Are The Voyages… officially canon yet and I missed it, I would not be at all shocked if they do this season considering they relish making everything Trekkies hate about Star Trek 100% canon. (See the salamanders from Threshold.)
That honor actually goes to Prodigy
Yeah, it’s a callback to the Enterprise finale. I figure the Lower Decks finale couldn’t be any worse, right? Pleasebegoodpleasebegood
Here’s hoping that Boimler gets assigned to the ncc-1701-g under Seven and that gets a show.
Please let that be a thing.
So I threw this out this morning half asleep without thinking about it. I’m sold. Raffi would happily take Mariner under her wing, or hate her. Maybe both.
Love triangle
That would be amazing
Ah, okay.
Be strong.
They wake up and it was all a dream
They discovere they were in pergutory the whole time, and they died just after leaving drydock.
It was all a holodeck simulation. They are stationed on a ship lower on the pecking order than a Cali class…like a legacy Oberth class that only transports mundane material within our solar system
Jonathan Frakes walks in front of the camera, the background fades revealing the holodeck grid…
“No way, it never happened”
For 22 minutes straight
They wake up and they were a koala all along 🐨🐨🐨🐨🐨
I’d be down for a koaladeck simulator episode
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!