• @Bluetreefrog
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    7 hours ago

    And yet there are still people who don’t believe human made climate change is real.

      • @[email protected]
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        87 hours ago

        This is why it makes no sense to increase investment in renewables AND fossil fuel.

        It’s like the person going on a diet, eating healthy food AND fast food.

    • rigatti
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      169 hours ago

      The argument has moved to “well it’s too late to do anything about it!”

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        128 hours ago

        The ongoing pattern with those types of folks is basically to do nothing about anything. Listen to libertarians for example. Everything they suggest amounts to doing nothing.

        The gears of progressive only ever move forward, and people like that are a gear that refuses to turn.

        • @acosmichippo
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          68 hours ago

          don’t worry free market capitalism will save us.

    • @SynAcker
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      A lot of those people, like my brother in law, believe that it is cloud seeding and HAARP style antennas causing it these temps. So, totally not climate change but still man made - and it would totally stop if the global cabal would just knock it off. /s

      • @Frozengyro
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        I didn’t forget the chem trails. And the cabal benefits from this disaster so much…

  • @[email protected]
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    -78 hours ago

    “For decades now, scientists have been warning us that extreme weather events will be exacerbated by this blanket of carbon pollution we’ve been wrapping around our planet,” said Katharine Hayhoe, chief scientist at the Nature Conservancy.

    I don’t know how I feel about framing carbon dioxide emissions as “pollution.” All this carbon has been in the atmosphere before, it’s just been trapped in the ground for hundreds of millions of years. There’s got to be a way to talk about that so low information people get it. They definitely don’t see carbon dioxide as pollution, since it’s intangible and a healthy portion of our atmosphere

    • @Bluetreefrog
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      77 hours ago

      When we add excessive amounts of it, it is definitely pollution. I think it’s time to start talking about it as such.

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        07 hours ago

        I’m talking about changing minds. CO2 emissions have already been framed as pollution for decades, and that narrative has demonstrably failed to move the public consciousness. Just saying “oh it’s definitely pollution when there’s too much of it” is dismissive and will change zero minds, assuming that’s your goal here.

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          so you think NOT calling it pollution is going to change minds? what are you arguing for exactly?

          the problem is not people getting hung up on CO2 being labeled as “pollution”, that’s silly. the problem is people are in denial because they don’t want to change their carefree 20th century lifestyles.

        • @naught101
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          Public consciousness has shifted dramatically over the last couple of decades… How would you demonstrate it?

    • @acosmichippo
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      It’s not just CO2, there are other carbon-based greenhouse gas pollutants like methane and CFCs.

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        17 hours ago

        Fully aware. Also, CO2 is the biggest problem, and addressing CO2 emissions will go a large way toward addressing gases like methane.

        CFC emissions worldwide have dropped off a cliff since the 80s, and that can be viewed as a global success story we should emulate for CO2.

        • @acosmichippo
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          36 hours ago

          okay. the point is the term “carbon pollution” is valid. not even sure what you’re complaining about.

    • @naught101
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      So an oil spill also isn’t pollution?