• @rsuri
    link
    English
    317 hours ago

    Is it still fraud if no one falls for it?

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      94 hours ago

      People will still fall for it by treating it like a demonstration of what Elon wants to make, and just an early prototype. The abilities these “robots” displayed are on par with technology that has been available for over 20 years. They don’t realize the parts missing, filled in by human intervention, are the most difficult parts to create and literally cannot be done without a major, generational breakthrough in AI.

    • @vxx
      cake
      link
      English
      176 hours ago

      Yes

      “Fraud” is any activity that relies on deception in order to achieve a gain. Fraud becomes a crime when it is a “knowing misrepresentation of the truth or concealment of a material fact to induce another to act to his or her detriment” (Black’s Law Dictionary). In other words, if you lie in order to deprive a person or organization of their money or property, you’re committing fraud.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      4
      edit-2
      5 hours ago

      You overestimate the general population. And especially “investors”.

      The cult of Elon remains real.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    528 hours ago

    Title reads like tall skinny bitches were wearing robot costumes. What they meant to say is that the robots weren’t autonomous.

  • @NeoNachtwaechter
    link
    English
    64
    edit-2
    13 hours ago

    But it was mostly just a show.

    Attendee Robert Scoble posted that he’d learned humans were “remote assisting” the robots

    Serious question: Wasn’t it obvious?

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      45 hours ago

      Some of it was and some of it wasn’t. I think when they initially came out walking, that was probably autonomous. The dancing was autonomous. The only time we saw evidence that they weren’t autonomous was at the end when they were interacting with people at the event.

      Problem is, we don’t know. We know some of it was. Tesla did not state that any of it was remote controlled, which means we basically have to assume that all of it was.

    • @ladicius
      link
      English
      12
      edit-2
      13 hours ago

      There was some hate babbling when that robot taxi company in SanFran published that their autonomous cars were assisted by remote drivers who took over when situations were too complex for the robots.

      I think remote support and steering will be the most reliable and practical way those tasks will be handled for the foreseeable future. How much assistance the cars will need may diminish but I don’t think they will ever be able to work without any human assistance.

      • @kameecoding
        link
        English
        389 hours ago

        Sure they will, just put then on rails, make them bigger and available to the public, call it Public AI transport or something

  • @rickdg
    link
    English
    1312 hours ago

    The cars were probably also being nudged just in case.

    • @Num10ck
      link
      English
      310 hours ago

      like a shepherd he said, you can run 10 or 20 of the cars.