To quote the immortal Al Bundy: ‘don’t try to understand women, son. Women understand women, and they HATE them’.
Bullshit - women don’t buy new outfits every day, they own a number of clothes they wear repeatedly and they get along fine. It’s time for this silly complaint to die.
Whatever, so long as you don’t stink
I think most people are missing the point.
For work I wear the same free t-shirt to support “brand awareness” once a week.
It doesn’t matter if it’s man or woman making the statement this is what matters: what sad fucking life are you living to notice what I wear every day?
I had a co-worker, in a different office than me, who had two of the same shirt. She decided to wear only those two shirts to work until somebody said something. A little more than 3 weeks later and someone finally commented on it.
A co-worker from years ago once said “if you’re noticing that I’m wearing the same shirt repeatedly, it’s more your problem than mine.”
Even if we take the premise that woman judge other women for their daily wear for true I would not blame the women.
As far as I can see it’s taught to young girls to judge other people by their daily wear. It’s the system itself that enforces that belief that should be judged IMHO. And again IMHO that is not a gendered issue. This image gets reinforced by men and women alike.
This gave me a weird reminder of an elementary teacher I had that wore this animal print often (not like leopard print, but actual leopards on it?)
In hindsight, your question is spot on. I was an extremely miserable child to even take note enough to still remember that in a critical way. Not that I’m critical of it now, and I never said it to the teacher or anything. I gave her trouble enough in other ways
I wish I remembered her name now. Poor lady. She was nice
Just in case anyone is wondering how true this is, about 10 years ago, an Australian TV anchor decided to keep wearing the same suit and see how long it took people to notice.
After a year, no one had mentioned it.
That said, I agree with the man’s statement that it would overwhelmingly be women who criticized other women for wearing the same clothes.
an Australian TV anchor decided to keep wearing the same suit and see how long it took people to notice.
There’s a running joke in sitcoms, particularly with B-list characters, where a kid breaks into their house and finds a closet full of the same identical outfit over and over again. I know the Simpsons did it with Principle Skinner. I’m pretty sure Save By The Bell did it with Principle Belding. There was some 80s pod-person movie that used the trope as well.
There’s also a classic joke about groomsmen all dressing the same during a wedding, so if anything happens to the groom you just have the whole crew slide over to the right and keep on trucking.
I vaguely remember some Econ joke about guys being a fungible commodity.
None of these are intended to be complimentary.
it would overwhelmingly be women who criticized other women for wearing the same clothes
Definitely different standards. Although I’ve found this tends to take hold as women get older and start climbing the workforce ladder. You’ll find plenty of college girls (particularly during exam time) who give absolutely zero shits about their appearance. Also, when women are unemployed.
There’s a running joke in sitcoms, particularly with B-list characters, where a kid breaks into their house and finds a closet full of the same identical outfit over and over again.
More true for cartoons than sitcoms. Rosanne actually fought with the producers on her show to have her characters reuse outfits. She hated how supposedly working class characters on TV somehow never wore the same outfit twice. She even had some pieces of clothing get handed down to the younger actors when the older ones outgrew them. It’s a shame she became a right-wing loon, because she was one of the few people to make a realistic sitcom about working class people (only other one I can think of is Malcolm in the Middle).
It’s really hard to overstate how different Rosanne was when it first aired. They had money problems, they’d yell at their kids sometimes, they weren’t perfect. They were a “normal” family on TV that people could relate to.
Not only did they have money problems, but they absolutely affected the family. There wasn’t the “money isn’t really important” message at the end of the episodes so many shows go with. Money’s extremely important - especially when you don’t have it.
Being working-class was hard, and it had an impact in every aspect of their lives.
It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia was really careful about this in their earlier seasons.
And played on it in later seasons. I almost cried laughing at the bit where they had a 20 year time jump and Charlie was still wearing the exact same outfit, and they called him on it.
At the same time a local TV personality (Christiane Charrette) has been dressing the same way since at least the 90s and no one cares… She found something that fits her well and adopted it.
As a woman, my female friends are more likely to tell me that they like that dress after seeing it a few times
I honestly don’t think most people care regardless of sex… maybe this is just rich people problems.
Where’s the funny? Ragebait isn’t funny.
Ragebait is false, it’s in the name, “bait”. Everything about the guy’s reply is true. You’re just mad a guy said it.
Thanks, that’s a great demonstration of what ragebait is.
you got it wrong im looking for the funny, not the ragebait
girls cant wear the same dress twice
$5 says she’s typing this out in yoga pants.
I still don’t really care
That doesn’t change anything. The reality is the issue at hand. Is there is a double Standard? Is it very prevalent through out our culture? should it be changed? These are the issues.
Far too often people take any form of feminism to be all encompassing of the most extreme views they’ve heard, or even that others have claimed without reason. Feminism isn’t oppositional to men, it’s not even blaming men, just like toxic masculinity isn’t about ‘‘men bad’’ because it includes problem like ‘‘men are conditioned to repress their emotions which is harmful to men’’ and ‘‘men being drafted and not women perpetuates a view that men are disposable, this is a really negative view that’s deeply harmful to men’’
It’s not about who’s to blame, who is the enforcer, where did it begin. And not every privilege is a insult to the group that has it. Women do have privileges as well, they are less likely to be suspected of child sexual abuse in professions with children, They receive far less prison time for convictions, they get favored in family court rulings. This doesn’t negate all Feminism, nor does it disparage women, these are very borad social realities, that are difficult to change. There are Feminists who have advocates to include women in the draft, there are women who have tried to put forth changes in child rearing to reduce the chance a boy will grow up to be emotionally repressed. It’s not about who is to blame, it’s about seeing a double standard and working on it.
I agree with most of what you said. However, this poster seems to be framing this particular issue as an example of men enforcing a double standard on women. If that’s not what they intended to convey then they should choose a different way to express their idea that better communicates the intended message.
What gives you the impression they are framing it that way?
It seems like you’re taking from the phrase “male privilege” an accusation that this is somehow men’s fault. I think the other commenter said it perfectly well, just because a privilege is afforded to a group doesn’t mean that group is responsible for that privilege. It’s still a privilege that they have.
In your example, wearing dresses might well be considered “female privilege”, yes. I doubt you’d hear this talked about because it’s quite minor, but you’re not wrong. Another example which illustrates it well is “pretty privilege” - we all know that life is easier for attractive people. That doesn’t mean they are oppressing average or unattractive people personally. They just have advantages. Not their fault, still a privilege.
I disagree. The first tweet IS right. It is male privilege that men can wear the same outfit multiple times, and it doesn’t imply it’s enforced by men, it just states that it exist. The fact that women enforce this double standard IS male privilege even when men aren’t to blame
Got it. Even when men aren’t involved in it, even when they don’t much notice, it’s still men’s fault.
Thought experiment: tell us what isn’t somehow men’s fault.
That wasn’t what I said. I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt tho, and try to explain it. You are somehow thinking that having a privilege in a system is the privileged’s fault, when in reality they are too a victim of the same system. Of course men aren’t at fault here in this situation, but they still have privilege in it. In this scenario that means men don’t have to worry about repeated usage of clothes the way women do, so they are in a favoured position, they are privileged. This is what it means. No one here is saying that men are the culprit of this system, rather that men don’t experience the same social pressure when it comes to clothes.
I see what you’re saying but I don’t think it truly works that way in practice. As an example, what do we call the fact that women can wear lightweight and breathable clothing (dresses / skirts / spaghetti straps) to work when it’s hot while men have to wear pants and long sleeves? Based on your description it seems like that would be called female privilege but I don’t think I’ve ever heard that phrase used in a genuine fashion before.
That, I think, is why the inference is drawn that men are being blamed for creating the situation when the word male privilege is used. It may theoretically refer to a concept that applies to both men and women but in practice you only ever hear about the situations in which men are seen to benefit. If we don’t have the other side of the conversation then it feels like that other side doesn’t exist even if it is intended to.
I wish women would wear more dresses either way. They look great. My wife used to, but we are 28 years together and she basically now wears the clothing equivalent of UGGs.
I think there are healthy ways to encourage it. Take her out to a nice dinner. Dress nicely yourself.
But also, find her attractive regardless of the clothes.
But also, find her attractive regardless of the clothes.
I usually find women the most attractive without any.
There’s something about when it’s just a little midriff or something showing…
This, and compliments
“I’m wearing a shirt that makes a man want to buy me another shirt.”
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What are you wearing that makes her feel like she should dress up? I’d bet you put as much effort into your outfits as the “UGG equivalent” as well.
This is completely true. I started dressing nicer, just because I wanted to look better, and my wife started dressing nicer shortly afterwards. We never even talked about it until much later, it just happened organically
Didn’t work for me. My wife just apologizes for looking homeless when we leave the house.
Ha! Well, better luck next time.
As in, with his next wife?
Haha! No. As in with whatever other issues he’s hoping to find an easy resolution for.
I wish women would wear more of what the individual woman wants to wear, as I do with my attire.
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I would imagine gay men would care even less.
I would not be so certain tbh. I know a gay guy in the fashion industry and I bet he would judge women.
Then again probably straight people in fashion would do the same…
we would be infinitely happier if you wore nothing
I don’t want any woman to suffer hypothermia.
You haven’t known true freedom till you had your nutsack flutter in the wind in front of a bunch of strangers
verily. winter is not kind to flapping though
Hahahaha 🤣🤪😜
That’s still patriarchy.
