Harris wasn’t pro ceasfire in Gaza, please stop gaslighting people.
Their platform was weak.
They ran an old man with brain damage for most of the campaign.
His replacement spent two months of campaign time telling poverty wage workers to be joyful and didn’t even put a platform on their website until a few weeks before the election. Watching that felt very tone deaf and condescending.
The other meme they repeated was how weird Trump and Vance are, as if they didn’t already objectively know the voters don’t care about that.
They didn’t run a good campaign.
Well I’m glad we dodged having an old man with brain damage in the White House… ooh wait.
Fair point.
No matter who we elected we were getting a useful idiot for the rich, but that’s partisanship for you.
Too complicated for 90% of voters to comprehend.
They saw: Democrat president made my groceries more expensive
They heard: Democrat replacement will do things around the same as they used to be. Republican guy is going to do things VERY differently.
And the herd mentality took over past that point
You can’t honestly think this is true. People didn’t switch—at least not any significant percentage. I think it was a 1% swing. People stayed home.
The democrats don’t own the votes of people. They swung for the neocons. Leaving the people who’d been arrested for sitting in their schools for not liking a fuckin genocide to sacrifice their values. Again. It’s always on those of us that want better to sacrifice our values to keep the wolves from the door. While the Democratic Party opens the back door for them when they hold the keys anyway.
They are doing the same thing over and over, shutting out even a middle of the road progressive like sanders. And then they expect to hold onto voters who want real change? They can’t promise more and more of the same and then expect people to get excited. This is 100% on them.
People stayed home.
Abstaining is a vote unto itself, and partisans of both flavors are wont to ignore that voting doesn’t materially affect the lives of the poor and middle class. No matter who they elect things get worse, so when faced with the choice of missing a badly-needed day’s pay and voting, they choose to get paid.
I mean, this is true, but in most states you have the option to vote early, vote by mail. We can’t ignore the middle part of your statement: capitalism is getting more and more hostile and no one is offering us a solution. Just giving us differently colored badges to pin to our lapel while telling us the beatings will continue until morale improves.
Give us someone who is actually speaking to us and our needs and we’d have turnout like they wouldn’t believe. But both parties actively suppress anyone trying to do so. Which has been on display my entire life, but has definitely come into much sharper focus in the past 12 years.
It’s even worse than that. They consume media that actively misinforms and lies about the democrats.
I was helping my uncle with his computer a few years ago and got a glimpse of his email inbox with emails about how Hillary Clinton is so evil. And my aunt gets all her news from a website hosted by the same company that hosts trump’s social media website.
Things can not get better as long as we allow these propagandists to operate.
I hated reading this, because it sure seems like it’s the truth.
The simple fact is a LOT of Americans don’t have the time to do real research. They are entirely reliant on media to break down the complex issues into small chunks. And we know that no longer exists.
Do we expect someone that has to work 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet now and an hour or two helping their children with homework, to also spend hours researching current events and political stances beyond what they can get in 30 or 60 minutes from the TV before they have to go to bed and do it all over tomorrow?
this voting system is stupid as f@%k though: as a voter, you should be able to sort your candidates as per your preference, not chose pick one and only one
check this out : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_method?wprov=sfla1
Yeah but this election really wasn’t the time to pick this fight.
Average. Liberals would have you believe it’s never the time.
Yes, the lesser evil lost to the greater one again, and they and their diehard supporters insist on learning nothing.
People didn’t turn out much more than they changed their vote.
Drag will amend drag’s question.
You seriously thought a fascist dictatorship was an alternative not worth preventing?
Your point’s ok, but your habit of speaking about yourself in the third person is really grating and it comes across as snobby.
No, it sounds like regression to a toddler’s inability to use pronouns.
Drag isn’t talking about dragself in third person.
🙄 Proceeds to talk in some weird third-person adjacent way of referring to themselves. Shut up dude.
It’s just a gimmick account with a silly style to amuse themself, who gives a shit? Just ignore it and move on…
No, drag is using first person pronouns.
I mean okay. That’s kind of not how people work. You can hate it, but it’s just not how people work. I thought y’all had learned that by now.
Democrats lost worse on 2024 than Republicans did 2020. We judge Republicans for supporting their party after Trump effectively commandeered it but we don’t hold ourselves to the same standard when the Democratic party has been shown to be an absolute and abject failure. Maybe it’s time we look in the mirror. We gave Democrats three chances, 2016, 2020, and 2024 and they failed to deliver every time. We need to hold ourselves to the same standards we hold Republicans and start thinking about alternatives.
Yes, good thinking. The democrats are losing the vote, so we shouldn’t vote for them. And while we’re at it, we can continue the beatings until morale improves!
You’re right, if we stop voting Democrat we might have a fascist come into power with control of all three branches of government…oh wait, fuck
… maybe we can vote democrat and stop it for a second time? …wait, wait fuck
… well maybe we can keep voting democrat to stop it happening for a third time I guess?
Democrat supporters are fucking deluded at this point.
RCV
Eh.
We’ve had it since 1919 in Australia, yet we still have the same two parties right and righter.
RCV alone is not the answer.
That’s because Australia has a system like the US electoral college, but even more granular.
You’re right. Most people will still vote for the primary candidates, but in an election like this past one where we could have had Harris and a white man on the Dem ticket, RCV could have swung the vote blue.
And no, alone it will not fix the problems, but it’s a key change. Yall have around 20% of offices held by third party or independent. US has none or close to none.
Me: About to buy my first home.
Also me: Trump is going to be president??? Fuuuuuuck. May as well just light this big pile of money on fire!
Aw hell…doesn’t matter anyways. Pennies don’t melt…
Not only pennies do melt, they are more valuable once molten. It’s just illegal to do it.
…well shit. I spent my teenage years selling weed. I didn’t know I could make money burning things!
Also me: Trump is going to be president??? Fuuuuuuck. May as well just light this big pile of money on fire!
Invest in prison stocks. Watch them go to the moon.
More people voted for the candidate I don’t like than the one I do. Democracy is broken. /s
Drag thinks you’ve misunderstood the argument here. Drag isn’t claiming American democracy is already over. Drag is claiming it will be over next year when Trump implements Project 2025.
WASHINGTON, July 27 (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump told Christians on Friday that if they vote for him this November, “in four years, you don’t have to vote again. We’ll have it fixed so good, you’re not gonna have to vote.”
Trump said: "Christians, get out and vote, just this time. “You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians.”
He added: “I love you Christians. I’m a Christian. I love you, get out, you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again, we’ll have it fixed so good you’re not going to have to vote,” Trump said.
American tears, so salty right now
Yeah buddy, this is not going to affect the rest of the world at all!
Yes, drag’s friends who are going to die are crying. You’re welcome to make as much fun of them as you like.
Oh, yay. More sour grapes.
