• qyron
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    711 hours ago

    Somebody help get my ideas straight on this one, please.

    To my knowledge, Bing and Google search engine are the default options available out there, to the point other search services relay service from those, give or take a few tweaks (DuckDuckGo, Startpage, etc).

    Now lets remove those from the picture and what is left?

    I read a post yesterday announcing Ecosia amd Qwant were joining efforts to build a fully european search engine (hopefully, yes, but I’m not holding my breath on it). Maybe that is an option. But what else?

  • @[email protected]
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    812 hours ago

    Users are testing the impact of not using Google.

    Spoiler: non-LLM enshittified search engines return reliable results and usually are not censored.

  • @Tabula_stercore
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    611 day ago

    If they could at the same time make one without usa news that would be great

  • jaxiiruff
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    1191 day ago

    Big tech needs to be stopped yesterday. This literally has china great firewall energy and I hate it.

    • @General_Effort
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      211 hours ago

      My brother in Lemmy, this is what stopping Big Tech looks like.

      Europe made laws that say that Google and others need to pay if they want to link to EU publishers. Well, maybe the price they are asking is not worth it.

      You’re right about the firewall energy, but that’s simply how these laws work. The point of copyright, as well as age verification and other such laws, is to control who may access certain information.

    • @woelkchen
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      251 day ago

      Big tech needs to be stopped yesterday. This literally has china great firewall energy and I hate it.

      This is one of the rare occasions I’m siding with Google. The news outlets are claiming that they should be paid money for those result snippets. It’s not because I’m caring for Google so much but because that stance hurts small search engines.

      • @cbarrick
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        211 day ago

        EU: You have to pay to show our news.

        Google: Ok. We won’t show your news.

        EU: Pikachu face

        • @woelkchen
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          171 day ago

          That’s what basically happened in Germany like 10, 15 years ago when the first publisher had that idea. Its news stories would still show up in search results but only the headline, not that text snippet and no thumbnail image. These results were less attractive to users, so traffic from Google to those web sites crashed down by like 80, 90 percent.

          In the end the publishers gave Google a free license to reproduce text snippets and thumbnails. The tightened copyright law provision wasn’t repealed. Small search engines without leverage still (AFAIK to this day) have to pay.

          So Google pays nothing, publishers earn nothing, upstart search engines can’t afford the fees, and so Google leaves even more in power because of a law not even they wanted.

      • @Lennny
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        61 day ago

        Not wanting to appear on Google is how we’re going to get EVEN more dailymail type shit.

    • @x00z
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      622 hours ago

      Europe asked Google to do this so they can monitor what kind of influence Google has.

    • @[email protected]
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      I mean, they’ve done this when places charge them money to index the news articles there.

      It hardly seems reasonable to both mandate that they index a given piece of news media and that they pay a fee to do so.

    • @[email protected]
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      31 day ago

      A US news echo chamber at the whims of whatever they think will appease trump is going to be horrifying…

  • @bushvin
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    -321 day ago

    Boo fuckin’ hoo… Good riddance.

    • Quicky
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      181 day ago

      Absurd take