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would you be comfortable with a worker whose productivity may vary from week to week or month to month?
Oh, it will vary.
Downwards.
There’s a correct answer?
There is, nobody can be comfortable not knowing whether they’ll be able to afford rent next month.
No, but if those irregular paychecks are high enough, you may be able to create a reserve to work around it. Ti’s how owning businesses and being self employed works.
Everyone thinks being youtuber/streamer is sweet until they realize they have no idea when the next ad-pocalypse or algorithm change will be and when they are getting paid next.
Sure but most jobs who would ask such a thing on the application probably aren’t the high paying kind.
I have no idea. I have never seen any job ask this and there is no context given in this post. May not be job application at all.
This answer assumes a state of affairs where everyone living from paycheck to paycheck should be normalized. I think this way of thinking buries a much deeper issue which is that owners of capital continue to squeeze non-owners of capital.
Let’s assume we address that problem and ask the question again.
I would say, that choosing a riskier but higher average source of compensation is a perfectly reasonable, personal choice for someone to make.
If the quiz is “Do you have what it takes to be a you-tuber?”, or something like that, then yes. If it is some corporate bullshit, the quiz makers should fuck off.
Could be full-commission sales too.
We can’t guarantee the person setting up the form designed it properly. A business requirement to only hire those who chose yes may have been implemented as a technical requirement to actually choose yes on the form.
I’ve setup forms like that before for other purposes. Depending on the system it’s way too easy to accidentally mark the wrong question as required or hide the wrong question if another question isn’t “true”
Hilarious
I didn’t realize until right now that part of my personal definition of “career” includes a steady (or at least somewhat predictable) income.
I’ve only held one job that was even vaguely commission based and I didn’t make any big financial moves while I was there; however, I’ve always wondered what people with heavily commission based (or otherwise highly variable income like residuals or whatever) put on things like loan applications.
I’ve always wondered what people with heavily commission based (or otherwise highly variable income like residuals or whatever) put on things like loan applications.
Generally either last year’s income or an average of the last 3-5 years. Depends whether they’re trying to overestimate or underestimate, tbh.
I once asked a salesperson who was in the process of selling me a car. He answered that he would just report the income from the previous year.
At the time I was naive enough that it didn’t occur to me that loan applicants might want to shape the narrative so your last line would not have occurred to me.
Right!
Some of the shit I am seeing right now while job searching is just appalling. I have had to opt out to having an AI review my resume twice. The employers CLAIM they won’t see that as a negative, but I have my doubts. The sketchiness of some of them is amazing too. Check this one out:
And the language, it makes me want to get stabby. “Are you a visionary creative leader with a passion for social media and an eye for aesthetics?” Can you go fuck yourselves?
Also, having never worked in the UK before, I’m pretty shocked that they want to know my sexuality and whether I am the same gender I was assigned at birth. That is on a LOT of job applications and it is not always skippable even if I thought it was a good idea to skip it. Totally wouldn’t be legal in the U.S.
A couple of days ago, I applied for the position of “Creative Content Creator.” I believe there is a phrase in the U.K. for being laid off- “made redundant…” I think you’re made redundant when you get hired for that job.
On the sexuality/gender thing. They are actually required to ask this in the UK. It would be illegal for them not to ask (I think it depends on the company size though). This is because employers are required to report these statistics to the government to prove they are not influencing hiring decisions.
If 10% of applicants are homosexual, but only 2% of your hires are, then you are in trouble, because it shouldn’t make a difference.
Well at least that’s for a good reason.
I believe the recruiters can’t even see that in most circumstances. In Northern Ireland they have to ask you if you’re a Catholic or a Protestant. If you answer “prefer not to say”, they look at your background and decide for you, lol.
If 10% of applicants are homosexual, but only 2% of your hires are, then you are in trouble
The enforcement of these rules is wildly different than advertised
unfortunately it is an age of bullshit. they basically use bullshitting skills as the first level filter for job applications. the way people advertise their positions you would think you are applying for a job at google or sth.
Totally wouldn’t be legal in the U.S.
Yeah well not for long.
And likely for far worse reasons based on the response from @[email protected].
BTW that AI bullshit is illegal in the EU, thank Brexit for that.
Lovely. I am not happy about having to emigrate to a non-EU country, but it’s my only choice.
That said, it’s not a lovely thing here either. They absolutely do discriminate on how your name sounds, in some places being asked for a picture is still the norm, my landlord literally had to see our engagement photos before renting to us, and I could continue.
Back where I emigrated from (similar reasons to yours), there is a saying “the fences are not made of sausages over there either”. But the thing is, they are not made of shit like back home. There is a valid reason you came here, and I think you’ve made the right choice. I know I have.
Employers suck ass everywhere. You can do it. We’re fingers crossed for you from over the Channel.
Thanks so much, I am busting my ass trying!
“would you be comfortable with not being paid”
Subjective Question
- Objective Answer
Curious
I’ll pose my own question.
Would you be comfortable if your employees worked other jobs that reduce their schedule flexibility and could cause scheduling conflicts or coverage gaps between shifts? (for example, I can’t work mon, tues, thurs, fri because I have another job that gives me a regular paycheck and they have scheduled me working then.)
Hahahaha, just a meme right?.. Right?
I’m self employed (actually self employed, not delivery-fake-self-employed), and this is an unfortunate part of it. But I have a lineup of work at least 6 months in advance, and sometimes more, so it’s never a surprise for me what’s going to happen this month. That includes it not being a surprise this month will be less than the previous one.
I don’t have someone telling me there’s no hours for tomorrow, I already know February will pay me less, unless I pick up something extra. I also know March will pay less, because I’m intentionally not working for 2 weeks on my vacation.
My father runs a photography business and is usually booked out 2-3 months, but even with that he frequently has clients who fail to pay him or he’ll drive to a location at the scheduled time 2 hours away and find a locked door and nobody answering the door or phone. Hazard of doing business with other small businesses I suppose
Same, except my company (of which I’m the sole employee) has a long term contract where I’m very comfortable so I’m paid pretty much the same every month. I’ve also got a few companies that I’ll do a bit of off consulting work for when they need it. That’s usually good for extra spending money at the end of the fiscal year if they have extra to spend and want to reinvest in their technology. I just got a couple of those invoices paid so Christmas is looking nice.
But, like you, I’m taking off a few weeks in the spring. I get paid nothing for that or sick days.
Nice, you doing something nerdy or creative or…?
I do workplace safety and hazardous materials handling and regulations. A lot of companies need that, but none but the largest need someone fulltime for it.
Ooh
Thank you for all your occupational safety!
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The “fake” self employed is a reference to lyft/Uber/any other app that a big company runs and chooses what jobs you can get, and your pay etc. Making the “self employed” take all the risk.
Exactly. They should all be jobs, with contracts, insurance, etc.
When I worked for a phone manufacturer I’d so frequently get the Uber drivers who refer to it as their work phone, conplain that their work phone isn’t working, etc. but always carefully avoid saying that their work is Uber driving. I’d kinda play a game of seeing how long they keep the charade up until they finally say that it’s Uber driving
Well done on missing the point and being a nasty cunt.
Dropshipping isn’t a real career and is categorically rent seeking behaviour.
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Careers and Rent paying are not mutually exclusive whatsoever.
Rent seeking isn’t about paying rent, it refers to those taking advantage of a situation whilst adding nothing.
For self-employed? Absolutely not. But it’s great paying your tax at the end of the month and putting “0”
Occasionally
Since my self-employed income is seasonal (the work is constant), I get to do that for around 9 months of the year. It gets old.
“We’ve polled our workforce about our new Dynamic Wages™️initiative, and 100% of remaining employees agree!”
Cool, so you’re an employee owned cooperative now?
As long as there’s a contracted minimum and advanced scheduling its fine. I don’t think this is what they’re asking.
Correction: Livable contracted minimum. I understand there are exceptions for tipped and comission gigs, I feel like they are not ok if it lowers the baseline pay below the minimum wage (which needs to be ratcheted up anyway).
Yes, only companies can be worried about that profit increase not going up at the same rate as before.
This requires more information. Am I reasonably likely to hit a total target comp over the course of a year, but with fluctuations throughout the year? I can live with that if the target fits my needs. Of course, I’m guessing that is not the intent here, this is can you live with no clue about your future income potential? That’s a hard no for me.
I’d be curious to know who wrote the exam and what their motivations were for deciding “Yes” was the correct answer.
no the correct answer is fuck off
Guess that’s the new intern spec
