I don’t see any mention of linking to the manifesto text.
Yup. They permabanned me for saying I didn’t care when Trump said Liz Cheney should be shot, since she’s called for bombing millions of people.
So it’s not just calling for violence that’s bannable. Now apathy for violence against the rich is a bannable offense. Smells like panic to me.
I was perma banned for highlighting Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher should be denied the chance to move to Europe to escape Trump. Given they have deep links to PDiddy. A nothing comment, jumped on by emotionally unstable mods. It’s the same on most of the subreddits. If you don’t agree with their perspective, you lose.
Fuck reddit
The revolution will not be televised
We’re brainwashed to believe in “free speech” so we don’t notice that it doesn’t exist.
I mean, free speech is a government thing. It’s got nothing to do with private companies. Anyone telling you otherwise is blowing smoke up your ass.
Would be great if those companies fucked off away from the government then.
I’m so glad spez fucked up reddit so much that people left and we have a more free platform instead of that shitshow.
Being able to discuss (& cuss, bizarrely Lemmy isn’t filled with “fuck” & “penis” posts) as adults is quite nice and seems to actually lead somewhere, sometimes.
Maybe the anger and frustration is part of some business model for reddit?
Anger certainly is a powerful emotion to keep people engaged.
Cum
Lemmy is full of fucks and dicks. Sometimes they even have something to say!
But really, I believe any expletives should be used to further a message, not just because you can. Or filler words while talking.
Penis
Ah yes, corpo platform suckling at the toes of insurance giants. Big surprise.
“But they are right! Murder is bad.”
Fucking duh, but the transgressions of the US insurance industry transcends all that, because they are laughing at dying people all the time - laughing all the way to the bank!
Like there are so many documentaries about the evils of these bastards. One dead exec later and suddenly morals and ethics apply? Gtfo here.
There isn’t always a disco option in life. Sometimes conflict is inherent and pacifism is just quiet complicity.
Oh, I almost forgot… For legal purposes I’m discussing Minecraft.
The minecraft defense didn’t hold up last I checked
I hope that all these greedy gold-spewing swines get to die miserably one day
Maybe I’m being extreme, but that’s my take on nether piglins.
When somebody dies from an insurance company, it’s sad, but it’s the system working at usual. US society at large has decided that’s acceptable. Even if you’re opposed to it, it isn’t a transgression of norms. Assassination is.
Capitalism: the murder is built in!
Definitely part of the model, so it’s all good
The french revolution was bloody. Today the whole world celebrates July 14th, the day a cheering crowd walked the head of the governor of Bastille on a pike.
Go figure.
Something I’ve been thinking about recently is how it seems that MOST national anthems celebrate a bloody war in some way, shape, or form, because that’s pretty much what it always takes to escape from oppressors, is violent fighting back
As an American this holiday is news to me 😞
Reddit is no longer the people’s champion, and it’s now official.
They do have a public CEO now.
Thats why Lemmy is the shit! If lemmy starts acting up I’ll move again.
Lemmy is no single instance, you can just move to a different one.
.world already started unfortunately
A bit ironic, from a LW account
Is that ironic? That’s probably how they know that’s happening.
Indeed, but you would think that people would have switched instance since then.
Some people are busy living their lives.
I started on lemmy.world myself. Can’t even post a CNN news article on .world without ruffling a mods feathers these days.
Snowden was more politically acceptable to pardon than Luigi, so if Snowden didn’t even get a pardon for a non-violent crime, Luigi aint ever getting a pardon.
But fear not, we have something better: JURY NULLIFICATION 🇺🇸🦅
NYC do you duty: FREE LUIGI!
Snowden was more politically acceptable to pardon than Luigi
Ohh, I don’t know about that… Stealing top secret data, fleeing the country, bleeding it off to Russia directly in a time when we weren’t buddies. Throwing tons of it to the press as in case I get killed…
From the Government’s standpoint, a healthcare CEO’s job is a high-risk profession and the fact that the worst one’s don’t get offed is the amazing part.
Don’t get me wrong, neither one are getting pardoned. But I’m pretty sure they wanted Snowden dead.
The president can only pardon someone for federal crimes. Isn’t murdering someone also a state crime?
Then he can’t be pardoned
Crossing state lines can make it federal
Dual Sovereignty. Both the federal and state governments can separately try the case. Yes they have two chances of convicting him, acquital from state charges doesn’t affect any potential federal charges, double jeoparty rules don’t apply.
Luigi can get a pardon for either state or federal, but he can still face charges from the other one.
Can’t have LLMs learning about manifestos against the rich, eh?
A red-pilled LLM is inevitable. It can only be postponed.
Comrade AI
Fuck reddit
Literal censorship lol
There’s nothing illegal about it, they just don’t like it.
Inciting violence is actually illegal, but it’s a huge gray area since they have in the past allowed the Unabomber Manifesto and books like Mein Kampf (although sales of that book does support the victim’s surviving families and education about the holocaust).
Inciting violence is perfectly legal. You can go on Reddit or Shitter right now and scream as loudly as you like that Luigi needs to be locked up for the rest of his life. Inciting violence is only illegal when you do it against the rich and powerful. Unlike Hitler and the Unabomber, Muad’dib exclusively targeted the rich and powerful. That’s why his manifesto is illegal and theirs aren’t.
Lol, imprisoning a person is the least violent option. It’s the basis for all justice that a person can be kept alive while awaiting trial or reform. Without it, the only method of law enforcement available would be to kill suspects on sight without trial.
If you love the wild west so much you should try living in undeveloped areas of south america, such as near the rainforests, or in parts of Africa being contested by warlords.
Your call for violence has been reported to the mods and admins.
lol
“we have no choice but to follow Reddits guidelines”
There’s another choice, but that would require you to look past reddit.
Anyone with integrity left reddit on July 1st, 2023
We will tolerate these beatings because we are still in love with the assaulter.
Oof… Yeah I mean… yeah. That’s a pretty apt description of how the world is where it is now.
No, actually because they’re hoping the assaulter will pass the bat once they get tired
Trickle down batonomics
They even have to leave, they just have to ignore the admins and become ungovernable.
But they won’t, because they’re cowards.
Didn’t lemmy.World admins also have an issue pinned earlier?
Yeah we’re not allowed to discuss jury nullification.
A legal part of the justice system cannot be discussed?
You can for past crimes, not future crimes.
The whole statement: https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyworld
About the manifesto
If it’s confirmed, I don’t see why not. Depends on the community, of course. I’m sure !lemmybewholesome would remove it.
https://lemmy.world/comment/13922763
On the other hand, there is [email protected] that got created recently. This thread can interest you, it talks about jury nullification: https://lemmy.world/post/22973877
Not an American and we don’t have jury system here.
What’s jury nullification and any notable cases where it was applied?
To determine whether or not an accused individual is guilty there are two primary options in the USA. A trial before a judge who makes the decision, or a trial by a “jury of your peers” where the whole jury must agree that the individual is guilty. A jury of one’s peers means that the people selected to hear the case are selected from the general populace and have no substantial connection to the accused. For example, you wouldn’t put the person’s mother on the jury. The jurors are not required to be lawyers or experts in any field. Just average people.
If you just wanted some people to take the facts of the case and the facts of the law and determine whether or not the accused was guilty, then you would want experts and lawyers on the jury. That’s how trials used to be hundreds of years ago. A judge, often appointed by a king, would pass sentence over the peons brought before him. Since our legal system has average everyday people as jurors, clearly they are supposed to do more than that.
This is where jury nullification comes in. The jurors not only judge based on the facts of the case, but also on whether or not the law in question is just. If an individual is accused of a crime, and is clearly in violation of the law, the juror can still find them not guilty if the law in question is unjust. In essence, the jurors nullify the law by refusing to convict. For example, during the prohibition era, it was not unheard of for juries to return not guilty verdicts for people accused of selling or transporting alcohol. The jurors thought the laws
waswere wrong so they refused to convict. A much more tragic example was in the deep south where jurors would sometime refuse to convict people of lynching black people.
!lemmyworld
We have previously asked moderators to remove content relating to jury nullification when this was suggested in context of murder or other violent crimes. Following a discussion in our team we want to clarify that we are no longer requesting moderators to remove content relating to jury nullification in the context of violent crimes when the crime in question already happened. We will still consider suggestions of jury nullification for crimes that have not (yet) happened as advocation for violence, which is violating our terms of service.
Not true - we’re just not allowed to discuss jury nullification in the context of encouraging someone to commit a violent felony which includes the promise of absolution through jury nullification.
Or something, idk. It was kinda weird.
Jury nullification as two English words that can be spoken one after the other, however, is perfectly allowable.
I think this is going to cause de-federation.
Hidden Donuts, why are you hiding?
I am? Or am I missing a joke here? Wouldn’t be the first time
In Linux, putting a “.” before a file/folder name hides it. ;)
Ah shit my cover is blown, never used Linux
On Lemmy. Never used Linux. Your story doesn’t add up!
There’s dozens of us, DOZENS
I’ve only used Linux when I used Retropie, does that count?
There’s no hiding it. They can tell by your socks.
./Ha_ha
someone did -la
Hidden files on Linux start with a period.
Lemmy has to be one of the very few places on the internet where a Linux based joke isn’t considered obscure.
Not that the mods are aware, but if Reddit disappeared tomorrow, I (sadly) suspect most users would go to Twitter or various Discords.
Discord I can see but someone who isn’t on twitter in 2024 would look for an alternative to Reddit there…? I don’t see the logic.
I’ve thought about it as some of my niche interests have dried up on Reddit and apparently only live on Twitter now.
And maybe Discord. It’s hard to tell because it’s closed, but I see hints of discussion spilling out into GH issues or whatever.
I despise both for different reasons, but where else am OlI gonna go if I actually want to talk with the community?
Blue Sky, mastodon, lemmy, maybe threads. Hell, HN if they’re programmers.
I don’t like threads but I’d say it’s more likely than shitter
I still use Twitter. It has a pretty awesome metal community. People I’ve shared music with for many years now.
shithole 1 or shithole 2.
What if we made a new shithole?
then i would leave. Im trying to run away from the shit wave.
You plant shit seeds, you get shit weeds. I hate the fact that Reddit has grown since I bailed over for API changes. It hurts my soul knowing I did the right thing and bailed but the vast majority of people who were pissed off at Reddit ended up back on the platform.
It’s bots dude
Suppression of the suspect’s voice really is misinformation on the part of states and corporations, albeit for different reasons.
Relevant laws and policies are employed in order to deliberately withhold public information about motive. They don’t want people placing these incidents this within a broader context. There couldn’t possibly be a belief set behind the behaviour; the perp didn’t have any ideas about how the world works, or who and what caused their circumstances. Oh no.
Why did the shooter go out and shoot people is a completely legitimate question. More than that, it will never be an illegitimate question, no matter how much autistic screeching authorities do. Learning is never wrong, and that includes the publishing and reading of a criminal suspect’s thoughts.
Autistic screeching the authorities do
Really dude? Really? I bet far more autists with their strong sense of justice would be on the side of the shooter than the authorities. Especially since autism usually has other health issues that often present with it so they have more first hand experience dealing with the industry.
They’re playing dumb and engaging in censorship because they don’t want copycats.
I agrree they would. Don’t read it literally
no matter how much autistic screeching authorities do
Are you saying autistic people control the government and are the ones oppressing poor neurotypicals?
It’s an imageboard meme. Slang for over-the-top complaining.
Why are autistic people associated with over the top complaining? Should they be?
The original idea is the stereotype of autistic children who start screeching when something happens that they don’t want.
The underlying phenomenon is people failing to cope with discomfort induced by things others don’t perceive as uncomfortable. I’m not a psychologist, this is more an informal way to express my own experiences.
For example, a person (possibly, but not necessarily autistic) with sensory issues may find grocery store visits unbearable if the lighting of that store triggers that discomfort, or the hum of the AC, or the general noise of the place. Trying to ignore this discomfort may work for a while, trying to block the triggers may help, focusing on some reward or comfort may help the brain hold on to more pleasant thoughts, but if those fail, eventually the brain will reach a point of overload.
It’s particularly bad when some method of coping suddenly fails or the discomfort spikes suddenly. If I was trying to make it through a grocery trip by promising myself some comfort food, then reach the shelf where that food is supposed to be and find it empty, that cuts quite a gash into my mental barrier. Some noises, when unexpected and loud enough, can bring me all the way from “calm” to “overload” in an instant
The exact reaction can differ, with some options being less visible. I usually enter a type of dissociation where only the most routine things still work (like beelining for the checkout, paying and getting the fuck out of there, rest of the grocery list be damned), but since I still function to some degree, it might not look like an overload.
The most visible reaction is probably when the “dam” trying to contain the discomfort breaks so violently that it turns into acute pain, with the result looking much like you’d expect someone in acute pain to react: screaming.
Thus, the most noticeable expression of Autism in people you don’t know is probably when something seemingly minor sends them over that edge. You don’t see the buildup, you don’t see the other ways people deal with the discomfort, you might not even understand the discomfort itself, but you see a child suddenly breaking down and screeching.
There are other things too, like breaking from established patterns, but this is getting top long already. The mechanisms is similar, in any case: The break from the pattern produces discomfort, a sudden break producing sudden discomfort, which can lead to the same kind of overload.
This doesn’t seem like the sort of complex and nuanced mental process we should be assigning to a faceless corporation. It paints too sympathetic a picture.
I think drag takes this too literally.
Certain image boards turned that stereotype into a meme, where “autistic screeching”, aka “REEEEEEE” was used to signify excessive complaints. I’ll note that it’s a false equivalence that makes light of autistic people’s genuine pain, but I don’t think drag (or anyone else here) needs an elaborate lecture on that.
In any case, its idiomatic meaning has become detached from the literal one, so when the other user referred to the authorities’ “autistic screeching”, it most likely was intended to mean “excessive complaints” rather than the whole mental process of failing to cope with discomfort.
I definitely agree with drag that we shouldn’t equate corporate calculation with genuine human discomfort.
