Summary
New York judge Juan Merchan denied Donald Trump’s request to delay his sentencing on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records, set for January 10, 2025, just 10 days before his inauguration.
Trump argued for a delay based on pending immunity appeals, but the court rejected the claim, citing repetitive arguments and delays caused by Trump himself.
Prosecutors noted the timing avoids potential legal complications during his presidency.
The judge plans to sentence Trump to an unconditional discharge, leaving him a convicted felon without further punishment.
The case involves hush money payments from 2016.
Guess which of these sentences aren’t in the article.
“The current schedule is entirely a function of defendant’s repeated requests to adjourn”
“Merchan said in his ruling Friday that he did not plan to jail Trump and that he was likely to sentence him to an unconditional discharge, meaning he would remain a convicted felon but would have no other punishment”
“We are not to blame for flushing democracy down a shit riddled toilet”
How the fuck can we ever take our courts seriously again?
There is some twisted logic to this. Your’e right, the system is broken, but this decision potentially avoids the constitutional crisis of whether a president can pardon themself. It may also make an appeal less likely. In short, it may be the best way to make the conviction stick. Now, what good is a conviction if there’s no punishment? The only thing I can think of that would have any impact on Trump is civil liability stemming from a criminal conviction.
Without punishment or rehabilitation, it doesn’t matter like you said. It’s the most in our faces it could possibly get, different rules apply. I forgot where I read or heard it, and it’ll be paraphrased:
The Constitution is just a piece of paper. It doesn’t mean a fucking thing if people do not back up it’s intent. And the people who are supposed to be are willingly neglecting their duty/oath to do so.
We were already an oligarchy in a trenchcoat pretending to be a democracy, we’re well beyond that now. Shit will get grim.
‘judge refuses to delay slap on wrist’
fucking waste of everyones time. too rich to punish… its the american way
If he pronounces no sentence except for sticking the felon branding, then it isn’t even a slap on the wrist. It doesn’t affect him in any way whatsoever, even after his term is over.
Well, he can’t legally vote in many states … so there’s that at least.
Seems like McDonald’s has tougher job requirements than our highest position.
Tougher job requirements and easier to punish you when you fuck up. Hell, you don’t even have to fuck up that bad and this idiot’s about to tank the entire country even worse and lose nothing.
Hey, you dropped this:
,again
Except he can in Florida where he lives and where voting rights are restored upon fulfilling all terms of your sentence… so nothing.
It’s not even a slap on the wrist, they’re just closing out the trial and letting him walk.
“Yeah they found you guilty, but don’t worry, we’re not gonna do anything”
Yeah, the moment he postponed July sentencing it was clear that the whole thing was a mockery of our judicial system.
I wish I could commit felonies with impunity too.
Although, come to think of it, I don’t really want to commit felonies, because I’m not a criminal.
I admit I do get away with committing a lot of felonies.
Well, one specific felony a lot of times.
Glad I was able to go to a state where that felony is legal to purchase before the big snowstorm hit.
How much weed can one man smoke?
Is that a challenge?
How big was that dildo?
yuuuggge
Have you tried? Maybe you’re immune to and you just don’t know.
I wouldn’t mind robbing a bank., I’ll just keep a 10% finders fee and return the rest to the people it was stolen from.
(Okay, it really depends on the bank you rob and how you rob it. looting nazis acounts from UBS? Oh yeah, there’s oodles there.)
Why UBS? You could gain a lot more by looting the most celebrated Nazis in the country, Elon and Jeff
Because I’m referring to actual, leftover accounts from ww2, of actual, uh, nazis.
Not that Elon isnt a fascist.
Edit For example
You’ll never be president with that attitude.
I’m not trying to. I respect myself and my country too much.
Reluctant leaders are often better anyway…
I was about to say “ExtremeDullard for president!” But realized people might think I’m a Trump supporter.
Dude, so much awesome shit is illegal. How can you NOT want to commit a felony?
I’d do financial crimes targeting the ultrawealthy and redistribute the wealth. I’d hack banks and clear everyone’s medical debt. Hell, I’d cook a huge vat of LSD.
All drugs should be legal and regulated.
Yes.
Itd be nice if he got to sentencing, said “PSYCHE! JAIL FOR YOU! FOUR YEARS! NO PAROLE!” and then had some cuffs slapped on him and dragged him directly to prison. It’s not going to happen, but it’d be nice.
Rikers Island becoming the new seat of the American government wasn’t something I had on my bingo card
I was already gonna cum, but 4 years? I’m tryina really bust here, bro
If that happened then I’m pretty sure Vance would be president. I’d prefer having Trump doing damage to his own party for the next 4 years, I guess. Either way, fuck.
“Sentencing”
Right.
You’re all missing the main point here: If you live a clean life, stay true to your faith, commit 34 felonies and be a sexual predator, you too could grow up to be the next president of the USA!!
…twice!
…so far!
lol what kind of “clean life” do you think Trump has been living?
What are you talking about? He’s lived the cleanest life anyone has ever lived. Seriously folks, it’s so clean it’s probably the cleanest life in the history of the world…
A lot of people are saying…
No one has ever lived such a clean life, okay? No one. I gue- I shouldn’t say no one. [Pause for laughter] Oops, pooped my diapee
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
The ONE thing he has going in that regard is that he doesn’t drink alcohol.
He eats tons of shitty food like the fat fuck he is and probably has done multiple lifetimes’ worth of cocaine, but he doesn’t drink.
They’ve already said there will be no punishment, so why does this even matte? It’s almost like the news wants us to be angry.
I wonder why that is….
Are you not angry?
Clown country
Lock him up before he takes office
lol, good one
I still don’t understand how a convicted felon loses the right to vote for president but can still be eligible to run for that office.
Because if felons were unable to be elected the Republicans would try to pre-emptively jail their opponent in every single election. It’s one of few checks against corruption that I believe is still working properly.
Simple: the Founding Fathers never envisaged that a convicted felon would ever have the balls to run for president, much less that anybody would be stupid enough to vote for one, because it’s fucking insane.
Or that, in true democratic fashion, they belived that the populace knows best. Allowing it or remaining silent could have been intentional. When forming a new government to escape from corruption, you wouldn’t want to create a situation that would outright exclude anyone that the corrupt government labels a felon.
They could never have imagined such vast distribution of misinformation and all three branches being so thouroughly compromised.
I doubt very much that the Founding Fathers had any illusion about the judgment capacity of the populace. If they had, the electoral college wouldn’t exist.
But they did believe that letting the citizens decide, however bad the decision, was the least worst option. And - more relevant to the Trump problem - I’m convinced they believed there was a level of stupidity and lack of morals below which even the most uneducated, most foolish citizenry could never stoop. That’s why didn’t put guardrails against the unthinkable.
Of course, Trump and the magards proved them wrong: there is no bottom rung on that particular ladder.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
- unknown
Turns out all you need is racism, stupidity, and a massive propaganda machine. I’d like to thank the 150 million idiots who made this possible. I’ll be thinking of you all when the 2nd Great Depression pops off with some sprinkles of pandemic 2.0 on top.
You wouldn’t really want being a felon to prevent someone from running for president, because if they couldn’t there’d be a significant incentive to weaponize the DOJ against political rivals.
Sir, this is Lemmy.world. We only do emotional outbursts against republicans and capitalism here. Not rational thought! Please take that somewhere else. /s
Why does Trump even give a shit at this point?
He always wants to come out on top even if it doesn’t matter. He can’t help it: It’s pathological in people who seek power.
In other words, you don’t have to be an ax-wielding murderer to possess some of the classic psychopathic traits: lack of remorse and empathy, a sense of grandiosity, superficial charm, conning and manipulative behavior and refusal to take responsibility for one’s actions.
Trump fits the description of a psychopath pretty well.
Agreed. Also, He knows there aren’t any consequences so it reinforces his belief that this is a sham. This action also shows consistency on his defense’s part.
Doesn’t a felony conviction make related civil suits against you much easier? I can think of a lot of people who would love to take a chunk out of his fortune.
That no longer matters, because the President is immune to civil suits. Since they seem so reluctant to throw him in jail, I’d be shocked if he even bothers to show up to the hearing.
Yeah, the American people fucked up big time if they thought that there were any remaining guardrails keeping Trump accountable. We just made him a king, and if you disagree he could publicly order you to be murdered and suffer zero consequences because the courts and congress are incapable of holding him accountable.
I dare say he is hoping to avoid another conviction
He was already convicted. This is the penalty phase.
He’s probably still hoping.
Why bother? The sentence is going to be “Now, now, you shouldn’t have done that!”
The judge plans to sentence Trump to an unconditional discharge, leaving him a convicted felon without further punishment.
Justice is dead.
