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USB C Pro Max SuperSpeed Venti Extreme
It mutilates your data
aka Thunderbolt 4
4x4Gen4
You forgot the “.2”
…Plus
Ultra!
Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series and New Funky Mode
Still the same as the 3.0.
If each of those things actually mean something that tells me about the potential connection, I’m all for it.
As it stands, the symbols and colors are adopted at random.
Fucking finally
Now the EU needs to make it a legal requirement that every cable sold includes an engraving of the speed and watts on both ends.
The fact this dogshit continued for so long is unforgivable. Capitalism is most efficient my ass. It’s like the USB specs naming convention was outsourced to the dumbest, most illiterate engineers alive.
On second thought, the profit motive indicates the naming convention was probably done to intentionally create confusion and sell more cables.
Story is two years old apparently
https://www.pcworld.com/article/1339611/redesigned-usb-logos-finally-make-sense.html
I was going to say… I’ve had a cable with that logo on it for over a year.
Did the logo fix everything?
Well i still can’t get the dock that came with it to output to multiple 4k monitors (even though it’s supposed to be able to), so…
Well, for that functionality the connected PC/Laptop also needs to support it
It does.
It’s disturbing that I kinda miss the pre-USB days when, if the cable matched the port physically, it also matched the port in terms of capabilities (unless someone was doing something deliberately stupid). At least that meant you knew right away whether you had the right cable or not.
USB-C has been a blessing and curse. One port that does everything, except when it doesn’t. Even charging is now complicated by the “guess the cable that supports the right PD type” game.
Not that the old days were much better. I don’t miss faffing around with the myriad of serial and parallel port modes and settings.
Problem with the old days was that you had to have each kind of cable for it to work. No LPT cable? No printer. Hope the cable is long enough. There was no integrated Bluetooth or wifi, or even a dongle available. Haven’t even gotten around to the internals yet with ribbon cables for floppy or IDE or whatever.
Yeah, USB-C comes with it’s own issues, but I much prefer this to the bin full of cables, plugs, wall warts, connectors and adapters that were kept on hand just in case.
+1.
I wish we had type c but all cables were labeled with clear functionality from the start. I don’t like data/power only cables.
These have their place, though. The obvious example is public charging cables, which at least have had PoC for exploits.
PD cables aren’t expensive enough to just buy good ones have them for all your chargers.
At least with barrel jacks that would have been an easy way to frie your electronics back then. With USB C you might encounter incompatibility, but at least you won’t break anything (with a few exceptions like the Nintendo Switch getting bricked by connecting certain 3rd party chargers to the official dock, or using a bad 3rd party dock)
And then there’s shit like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Standard-Computer-Quieter2-Quieter2Q-Quieter2D-Black/dp/B099RXXDYT
if you want to use it on the third part mini pc,confirm that the output voltage of your mini pc needs 12V. If the output voltage is lower or higher than 12V and the output current exceed 2A, it will burn your mini pc or cpu.
Wasnt the parallel port also used for serial for awhile? Not quite perfect but better than now I suppose.
Although serial and parallel shared the same overall pin count and connector style, they used opposite genders and the two were incompatible.
Generally, If the port on the PC was male it was serial if the port was female it was parallel. But realistically you’d never see a 25-pin serial on a computer unless you were looking at something very ancient and strange. Even back into the '80s, The PCs used DB9 connectors for serial and adapters or the cable itself would have to convert it over the standard 25 pin connector on the modems.
they used opposite genders
Not necessarily. For IBM PCs that was true, but my UltraSPARC had a differently-gendered serial port which was very annoying because neither standard straight nor null-modem cables worked. It was a DB-25, carrying two ports.
Those connectors were used for a lot of different things, with no autonegotiation no nothing. At least the pinout for port A was compatible with the standard DB-25 one-port pinout, just with different gender.
There ya go…
To be fair, these were better than the previous standards.
Nah, I preferred USB 4 gen 3.7, 3x3, so clear and concise…
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Agreed. I can’t stand the previous symbology.
Took long enough for someone over there to figure out they made some mistakes with recent branding. Glad they’ve finally made some positive changes for end users though.
Fine by me, as long as the Bluetooth logo is never changed. Long live King Harald Gormsson, the unifier!
Ultimately, it’s great that users won’t need to squint to read the fine print or cross-reference spec sheets once the labels gain popularity.
I can’t even read the labels on the cables in the article photos.
EDIT: I get it, you all have 20/10 vision and no astigmatism, thanks for your input.
Reality has a higher resolution than this potato photo.
I can’t even read the labels on the cables in the article photos.
…Because the image is crappy resolution, its like complaining you can’t read without your glasses on.
That bottom one looks embossed instead of printed. At the size of a USB-C cable plug, that’s going to be difficult to read outside of ideal lighting conditions.
That’s still significantly better than having no markings at all.
It’s a sample product packaging that has Lorem ipsum on it
The cable, not the package
It says 80G 240W, so it’s a max speed max wattage spec cable. Not that hard to read even with the low res image really, but that’s on techspot for compressing things
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I’ll believe it when I see it
This isn’t that. It’s relabeling the existing USB standards in a way that actually makes sense finally.
Yeah, but the old labels won’t just magically disappear. Tech folks might know how to handle it but for everyone else it will be just more of the same. As far as they care for labeling to begin with.
I think this time the manufacturers will be pretty quick at adopting the new branding; if there’s two competing devices next to each other, one marked with “USB 3.2 Gen 2x2”, which no one understands, and other one with “USB 20Gbps” I think the latter will sell more.
Yeah something you don’t have to further look up to figure out what it means. Just simpler.
Probably. But then again, if one says “USB 20Gbps”, but the one next to it has “80Gbps”, it might be better to have had “USB 3.2 Gen 2x2”
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You mean the 3.0, 3.1 gen 1 and 3.1 gen 2 that all was changed to the same thing?
Even the 3.2 gen 1 is the same as the others IIRC and you need like 3.2 gen2 2x2 to go to even 10gbps.
I’m maybe off a little bit but the gist is there, rant off/
Yeah, this is about the 15th time they’ve done that.
But it’s the very first time that they are making them actually make sense.
Does nothing for existing cables.
I mean… yeah? They’re not gonna break into your house and emboss new symbols on cables you already own.
You may as well be advocating against better food packaging labels because stuff you’ve bought already won’t benefit from it.
Can i not bitch about how shit things have been? Or that these fixes shouldn’t even be necessary because they could have just not fucked it up in the first place?
I don’t think you understand what’s going on here lol
Can’t wait for all the crapware to flood the market and slap that 80gbps logo on anything and everything
I’m waiting for the ones that’ll just go zany and put “100GBps” or “100+ GBps!”.
Because you know they will do that too.
Thank god. It’s about time we call things by terms that actually matter, rather than this technical jargon like USB 3.1 Gen 2. Even if someone doesn’t know what a gigabit is, they can still look at this new scheme and know that higher number = more speed. This is such an upgrade
Damn that’s a lot of bandwidth
Great, so let’s now do that with memory cards. Faster than Class 10? Call it Class 11, not Class 10 U1 or U3. Faster than Class 11? Call it Class 12. There’s no shortage of numbers. Let’s drop all this U1 U2 bollocks.
Yes, I am still sore about those Class 10 cards I bought for my dashcam that don’t fucking work because it wants U3 and they were U1.
