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What a loser.
I totally understand people who use cheat engine or similar to break games and to have fun seeing what they can do. Skipping content. Whatever.
But those that cheat to be able to boast… pathetic.
And then he’s like “well, everyone’s doing it.” 🙄
Honestly, one of the big reasons multiplayer sucks now is because of cheaters. You wanna cheat in a single-player game? I couldn’t give less of a shit. But giving yourself an unfair advantage while playing against other people is pathetic and ruins the game for everyone…
Yup. For me it is Lethal Company. While we run from tbe monsters in fear for our lives they have god mode, etc. Which simply ruins the cooperative aspect and just the entire game for everyone involved. Why even play? I guess they enjoy seeing people reaxt to their hacks but I dont give them anything, simply quit immediately as soon as I find out.
I totally agree.
I agree so much, that I’m always upset when I see comments on a post about anti-cheat software that only focus on the downsides of needing it. They never acknowledge the need.
The benefit of an anticheat can be replaced by an old-fashioned kick vote system. The downside of an anticheat is that I’d need to install Windows and a rootkit on my computer to play some games. Not a problem till a younger relative is over and you have to explain how your gaming PC won’t run Fortnite or GTA Online for security and ideology reasons.
Yeah, I honestly like manually kicking cheaters! However, it is not enough on its own. It doesn’t help when BOTS join the game in hordes and outnumber the human players enough to make themselves impossible to kick…
That is, I would prefer even bots to a kernel-level resteictive anticheat.
Passworded rooms then! Even in games where you play on a centralized server, it’s sometimew possible to have passworded matches. GunZ online comes to mind. I think that game had passworded mqtches. TBF that game had anticheat too, but it never really worked properly. Client side anticheat doesn’t work because someone will always bypass it somehow, and then the server doesn’t know that funny things are happening. And server side anti cheat is going to decrease server performance because you have to track more things in the server and trust the clients less.
Depends on the game. In mine, that would work for matches you organize with friends, but wouldn’t work with continuous public matches. Bot hosters would find the passwords and still flood the rooms. However, the safe place during the bot crisis were indeed community servers! I don’t know what exactly they did.
That doesn’t scale to larger games. Rust, for instance, has servers with many hundreds of players (and a huge cheating problem). MMOs will have thousands (and constantly fight bots). The nature of massive, real-time games makes self-policing solutions like votekick or manual whitelists infeasible. Manually investigating user reports is slow. And you pointed out the problems with different kinds of anticheat.
It’s easy to see the allure of root-level monitoring, with all that in mind. Both for developers and players oblivious to or willing to accept the risk. Of course, it also isn’t a silver bullet…
I’m aware of situations in games where kick vote does not work, because they hacked that too. This is possible in some situations where the networking is P2P without an authoritative server.
At which point you can’t even have a truly functional anticheat because any client side anticheat, no matter how invasive, can be defeated.
They still make a big impact on culture and social norms surrounding cheating. But you’re right. There is no fool proof anti-cheat. Software or hardware. Server side authoritative or Peer to Peer. Even with streaming only (Stadia/GeForce Now). None of them are perfect.
It’s all about mitigation and not having a free for all.
Especially since a lot of games are live service, and banning a regular player who buys cosmetics left and right for bad behavior is detrimental to profits. It’s not about making sure everyone has a good time anymore, it’s about “Getting those couple of whales to keep paying.”
Anticheat became a necessity because too many games decided to remove the ability for players to host their own servers. This sucks a lot when people get some games that have SP/MP but never really bother with the MP part
There’s also the problem that most anticheat software will only stop the laziest cheaters, usually the ones that aren’t willing to pay for the cheating software. There are a bunch of cheat-focused forums and creating the software can be profitable.
Exactly. I never cheat in MP games, but I use guides and whatnot in SP fairly often.
If you’re cheating in MP, just don’t play MP.
Trolls & Cheaters & Just downright punk behaviour is something I don’t tolerate in MultiPlayer
Which is why I opt for more Role-playing games like Space station 13 & Barotrauma (Not saying that there’s no crappy behaviour there, it’s just that those games are high-ceiling & there are less instances)
It’s really rampant, especially in games that have aim assist and controllers/controller support on PC. It’s so insanely obvious when someone is using an aim assist device…i.e. no bullet spread on a small automatic gun and hitting like a laser beam at 60 meters vs someone without has a ton of missed shots at that range. Their KDR is magnitudes of order different. They ruin a match. Unfortunately looking to get them banned doesn’t do anything, seeing as using game features buil-in by the devs is a big gray area. It’s not an aimbot or ESP, it’s using and abusing the provided aim assist.
This ^
If I’m playing by myself I’ll use cheats if I feel like it, like messing around, or if I wanna get that ONE unlock that I’ve been trying at for months now and I just wanna be done with it…
But in an online game lad? There’s no glory in ruining other people’s fun.
Well, since the only persons on his mind appear to be Trump and himself: Yeah, everybody’s cheating.
In a single player game, yeh.
Cheating in a game that impacts other people is trashI mainly just have Cheat Engine in order to reduce save scumming in Monster Rancher and keep monsters I like alive longer. I specifically avoid doing anything with the online because I know it’s not fair to everyone else. Though some use mods and cheats for the same game just to make it harder.
I cheat all of the time. I am fucking terrible at games.
If he says he’s top 20 player and it turns out he bought that account then what does that mean for the credibility of his other supposed achievements? Oops.
It tracks with everything else. He also bought Tesla in order to become a ‘founder’.
Not just bought either, he had to sue them too in order to be called a founder.
What’s the story there?
Man who never earned anything a day in his life continues streak by not earning video game achievements.
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Yo, did they change the photo? I’m only seeing it in the thembnail
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Interestingly my instant seems to cache the original photo. If I go on the website it’s a different image he still looks like prick though.
He’s always looked like a prick. Probably because he is a prick.
They probably don‘t want to loose the incel people in their audience
Not all incels are Nazis, though.
Nah, but it’s part of the radicalisation stream. Get them when they’re feeling worthless, point a finger and say it’s not you, it’s them. Once they’ve bought in, point at someone else. Keep going and next thing you know, you’ve made a domestic terrorist.
No, but a lot of them are apologists for tech bros.
Who’d of thought. A billionaire a cheater. /s
These people cheat at every aspects of life, society rewards narcissism, rewards people willing to forgo morals. We have systematised this were we can look at hi school bullies and have a vague idea where they will end up.
These people aren’t worthy of our respect, and we need to make it known.
This goes against the TOS for both games. If you play either, I highly recommend flooding them with reports on that. It would be great to see him banned. He’ll probably just set up a new account and start again, but it’ll cost him and you know he’ll keep cheating so you can just rinse and repeat.
You’re talking about a guy that could pay 100 million dollars for a new account and not even notice. He obviously wouldn’t pay anywhere near that much for something like this. There is no financial cost you can force on him that will change his behavior.
Yeah, but it will annoy him.
Still, doesn’t hurt to try.
Wealth redistribution I can get behind, even if it doesn’t stop him.
Yeah but the money’s partly going to Blizzard so yeah…
I don’t recall saying anything about even attempting to change his behaviour, anyone with half a brain knows that’s a lost cause. The point is being a thorn in his side. He clearly cares or he wouldn’t invest the time and money into these games.
Time is money and it’ll consume some of his.
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I’m sure if there was actual worthy news this wouldn’t be reported on however there is obviously nothing else happening so clearly we need to talk about this instead.
This is a consumer board at its core.
Elon Musk attempts to draw attention away from his drug fuelled gaff
Come on, you fuckin morons
Said the guy who called a Sieg Heil a “gaff”
He’s a 50 year old man
He’s a child.
He’s a 50 year old manchild
You know gamers are called man-child, he is something else
A sociopath
That’s missing some crucial information regarding him being a Nazi asshole - amongst other things.
I enjoy that the meta image is him doing the nazi salute
Not that I like him doing it, just that it’s being shown around.
Idk how anyone can say he is not a real gamer after the nazi salutes seen side by side with his twitter history.
This is a distraction. Ignore it.
Whaabout being a founder of Tesla?
What do Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning have to do with Elon lying about having mad gaming skills?
It shows you a trend. What other things has he lied about?? He knows more about manufacturing than anyone else… Look at the POS cybertruk
Full self driving will be here next year… Yep 2016 is here and gone, no FSD…
Starship will get us to the mars…
The manchild is a compulsive liar and a fucking Nazi
I think you misunderstood the comment
Just reiterating for the possible MAGA lurker
Because it’s the same thing. He’s boasting about other people’s achievement. He gives them money and pretends he did it.
Known liar founding lying. More obvious observations at 5!
I don’t even want to joke about this anymore.
Stay strong and resist folks.
