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Just because many idiots operate it doesn’t mean everyone who uses it is an idiot. Tell me again, how did the Nazi regime collapse in the 40s?
You realized they just posted the full quote of what Hitchcock was saying and you’re arguing it when you posted the image it was based on?
Idiots and operating things is right.
So brainrotten, you dont even understand who your allies and enemies are.
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Why do you even post a meme when you’re going to do this to people who literally showed up here to agree with you
Villain is literally in his name
I thought it was the other guy at first who posted the same thing in disagreement and I’m at work doing other things. I can post whatever I want lol who cares. Also I didn’t disagree with anyone, just asked a question and got accusations and called brainrot. Imagine the brainrot of using moronic internet speak. That person is a hostile nerd regardless of what they think lol.
edit: Please keep using your impotent downvotes that don’t federate to my instance
Lol at this fragility
I don’t think you should operate a keyboard, but obviously you do.
Why would I care what you think?
You just asked them a question…
Guns are ubiquitous because idiots can operate them. Many of the guys who took down Hitler were dummies.
Personally, I’d prefer a larger caliber for Nazi hunting.
It’s not weed in that bong is it
The real quote where he mocks violent idiots (after presenting it as a cure for insomnia):
Oh my god, it is almost like people use memes to communicate ideas that are different than the original source.
Not all violence is equal. The only way to stop a Nazi is to bash them. If you deny that, you’re a liberal which is a fascist collaborator. You’re going to sleep walk your way into Nazism.
The only way to stop a Nazi is to bash them.
There’s another, more effective and less violent and non-solipsistic way. A great deal of the power of fascism stems from their economic position. Guys like Zuck and Elon are dangerous because of their enormous wealth, not merely because of their toxic political views.
And since you can’t just Luigi Mangione the problem of economic elitism, you need collective action at an economic level to starve out the beast.
Incidentally, the “starve the beast” strategy is a conservative approach historically espoused and employed by Grover Norquist, Tom DeLay, and now (via the guise of DEI) Bill Ackman, Peter Thiel, and Donald Trump. Its incredibly effective, because it eliminates the ability of the opposition to effectively organize and administer large groups of professionals.
You’re a right wing troll undermining the leftist message.
If you think nonviolence is core to the left wing, you need to go ahead and find a nice subreddit to join. Liberals aren’t left wing.
Nice deflection. Nothing about leftism or anarchism involves eschewing violence. Read some fucking theory lib. You’re spewing liberal bullshit designed to empower fascists. You have to fight to win, so you’ve already lost, loser.
I always love these “conversations”.
You want to achieve 80% of the same things I do, but you’re non violent so fuck you LiB!!
You’re a right wing troll.
You came out swinging defending someone suggesting we murder leftists in response to a meme talking about the necessity of armed resistance against fascism.
Nope. You don’t even believe that. Your CIA handler told you to pretend to believe it.
The person you were defending outright suggested this meme, violence as a measure to stop fascism, be extended to Leftists. What did you mean to do?
You’re a liberal troll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNv6BrL_FgM
I’m a right wing troll because I want to… checks notes: protect myself, my family and my community against fascists and right wingers.
We have better applicators now that can cure a plethora of fascists in one swift move.
Medical technology sure has come a long way. I cant imagine why anyone would be doubtful of it
Things that would garner negative attention today, but that were still pretty cool way back when.
What video is this from?
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Pivoting from an anti-fascist meme to anti-Communist, very silly
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I can dislike two things at once.
Do you normally shoot everyone you dislike?
Fuck tankies, fuck fascists.
Yes, yes. We know who you are.
The Radical Centrist that goes to war with every other corner of the political spectrum and ends up turning on itself. Ur-Liberalism. The snake eating its own tail of political thought.
Again, pivoting from an anti-fascist meme to add an anti-Communist message is deeply silly, especially considering it was the Red Army that saved the world from the Nazis by doing 80% of the entire combat in Europe in WWII against the Nazis.
I don’t have anything against communists. Stalinist tankies are not communists.
The USSR was Socialist, as is Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, etc. These countries were and are built and run by Marxists, it’s safe to consider these hundreds of millions to be Communists. What “Comminists” are you thinking of that are “true Communists” that disqualifies the hundreds of millions who work to build Socialism in real life?
It was also an authoritarian dictatorship with about as many scruples as the Nazi regime. People seem to forget that saying simply ‘socialism’ ignores the other half of the equation altogether.
Even in Stalin’s time there was collective leadership. The Western idea of a dictator within the Communist setup is exaggerated. Misunderstandings on that subject are caused by lack of comprehension of the real nature and organization of the Communist power structure. Stalin, although holding wide powers, was merely the captain of a team and it seems obvious that Khrushchev will be the new captain.
A lot of the cold war propaganda about the USSR turned out to be bullshit, as contemporary Western academic historians will tell you, including Domenico Losurdo.
No, not even close. The theory of Nazism and Communism as “twin evils” originates with Double Genocide Theory, a form of Holocaust trivialization and Nazi apologia. The USSR was a dictatorship of the proletariat, those oppressed were the Bourgeoisie, Tsarists, and the Nazis. It isn’t a matter of simply saying “socialism,” it’s taking an honest look at history. In reality, there is no comparison to Nazism, which invented industrialized murder and sought to colonize Europe and the world just as Britian, France, Germany herself, and other Western countries had done to the Global South.
I suggest you read Blackshirts and Reds.
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Marx didn’t think those that agreed with him were “nutties,” he didn’t like that people were adopting the mantle of “Marxist.” Secondly, Communism can only be achieved through revolution. It is Captialism that prepares the conditions for revolution, but without revolution the Proletariat never wrests control of Capital, as they sink further and further into destitution as the Tendency for the Rate of Profit to Fall reaches its limits.
The AES states, where the Proletariat has managed to take control, are building towards a collectively owned and planned economy. This is not yet Communism, as Communism is necessarily global, but it is Socialist and those countries like Cuba that are working on that understanding are the Marxists and Communists building Communism in the real world. Further, wealth disparity massively shrank in AES countries and their economies are more democratic than in Capitalist nations.
I really don’t think it makes any sense to consider tech billionaires automating labor as “real Marxists” but those studying Marxism and building Socialism as “fake.”
Calling someone a tankie != anticommunist.
The fact that you interpreted it as such speaks a lot about you.
Calling someone a tankie != anticommunist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
The term “tankie” was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defence of the Soviet use of tanks to suppress the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.
The term has extended to describe people who endorse, defend, or deny the actions of communist leaders such as Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong. In recent times, the term has been used across the political spectrum and in a geopolitical context to describe those who have a bias in favour of anti-Western states, authoritarian states, or states with a socialist legacy, such as Belarus, Cuba, China, Syria, North Korea, Russia, and Venezuela.
Tankies aren’t pro-communist.
The word “tankie” is usually used against anyone that expresses at minimum a moderate level of support for AES countries, so yes, it’s purely for anticommunism. I’ve even seen self-described Anarchists and liberals called tankies, it’s a term that has no real meaning other than “Communism bad.”
Yeah that’s BS. Tankies are supporters of authoritarians, specifically ‘communist’ authoritarians (Stalin, Mao, Xi)
Supporting AES does not mean blindly upholding every action taken by every leader of every AES country. The “tankies” that do so are made of straw in the minds of liberals. Rather, it is usually those that denounce “tankies” that make a dogmatic error of reducing AES countries purely to their leaders, and not the hundreds of millions of Marxists and Communists that work and run the AES countries.
Even the CPC’s official stance on Stalin and Mao is “70% good, 30% bad” each.
When someone does tankie things, it is valid to call them a tankie. Quacks like a duck and all that…
Also, I had to google ‘AES communism’ to figure out wtf you were talking about. American Education Service? Advanced Encryption Standard? AES the energy company? Define your acronyms and abbreviations, everybody. AES stands for ‘actually existing socialism’ in this context.
I don’t know what “does tankie things” means. The people that think Stalin, Mao, etc have done nothing wrong whatsoever are practically non-existent. The closest to genuinely evil “communists” would be the Gonzaloists that defend the Peruvian Shining Path, and frequently Pol Pot as well, but even suggesting that it’s a great thing that the USSR provided free and high quality healthcare and education gets you labeled a tankie instantly.
AES refers to Actually Existing Socialism, yes, it’s an acronym used for states like Cuba that have Socialism in the real world. Marxists use it frequently when talking about existing examples of Marxist application, without having to list every country that has some form of Socialism in place.
We’re converging towards Lemmy doing the Matt Christman 2016 election night “Kill yourself and everyone around you!” line, but entirely unironically.
It’s very silly, for sure.
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Rectally works best
Point of order. How many applications of cure has Alfred Hitchcock personally administered?
From his Wikipedia page
Hitchcock was too young to enlist when the First World War started in July 1914, and when he reached the required age of 18 in 1917, he received a C3 classification (“free from serious organic disease, able to stand service conditions in garrisons at home … only suitable for sedentary work”).[37] He joined a cadet regiment of the Royal Engineers and took part in theoretical briefings, weekend drills and exercises. John Russell Taylor wrote that, in one session of practical exercises in Hyde Park, Hitchcock was required to wear puttees. He could never master wrapping them around his legs, and they repeatedly fell down around his ankles.
So, none.
@hamid incidentally, it’s also the cure for Marxism
You should really consider your values and priorities if your first reaction to a post against fascists is to deflect to a different group. Maybe you should ask yourself why you felt the need to shift people‘s attention away from fascism. Maybe you should reevaluate a lot of things.
Once idiots start talking about murder, I don’t care who they’re threatening. Stop jerking off to threats of violence.
do you have the same choice words for the person who’s saying we should do this to Marxists instead? Or is it just because you want to protect fascists? Sure feel singled out here. Not to mention misrepresented. I think you’re making a lot of assumptions.
If they had started it I would. But they didn’t.
What a lame excuse. So you’re cool with killing one ideological group but not another. Very cool, very consistent. You make a great Republican.
Nope. I’m against murdering anybody, and you’re a right wing troll undermining leftists.
Then say it. Go lecture the other guy. Show how passionate you are.
Oh wait, you’re fine with him.
You’re defending someone advocating murdering Leftists on a post talking about the necessity of violence against Nazis.
Clear projection here.
Oh yeah, because the Nazis gracefully stepped down from power
They stepped into power using violence, just like you’re glorifying here.
Honestly you’re probably CIA trying to make leftists look like violent idiots. You’re not helping.
They were stopped by the Communists using the power of violence as well. If you have a genocidal group of fascists, asking them nicely to stop has never worked
You just like violence, no matter who is doing it.
Actually, I abhor violence. However, violence is a necessary tool against fascism, and to topple the violent system of Capitalism itself. You can’t ask Nazis to stop nicely, nor can you ask the brutal system of Imperialism to stop either.
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Personally, I’m jerking off to Alfred Hitchcock
Liberals are always the first to come to defend the fascists! It’s always funny to see. An ironic kind of funny at least.
Your comment history reads like a broken record
Not my fault if liberals are blind to fascism since forever, and fighting the left instead. Like a fucking nazi is in the US government but liberals are still doing propaganda about tiananmen. They’re collaborators if you ask me.
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There it is - so the issue is it struck a nerve.
You need to ask yourself why you immediately associated “fascists” with “Trump.” This is a post on “no authority.” The US and Trump are not mentioned anywhere. Maybe your conscience is trying to tell you something.
America? Who said anything about America?
There is only one country is this fucking world?
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Got it
Gotta a simple question for you, I’m sure even someone of your abilities could truthfully answer.
Who is in power currently, the marxists or the fascists?
Bonus points if you can correctly identify a seig heil salute.
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