There is a coup occurring now

    • @kava
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      they won the election. now they are dismantling the levers of government. the goal is to weaken all other national institutions until eventually they can just ignore Congress or Supreme Court

    • @Test_Tickles
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      This reboot of The Odd Couple is really weird.

  • @militaryintelligence
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    Nah, everybody relax. Go to work, come home to your 2.3 kids. Everything is normal. President Musk is doing everything he can to take care of the immigrant and LGBTQ problem, the only problems the USA has. Men could be playing womens sports, guys. I mean it. Massive fucking problem.

    • @ceiphas
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      There are not that many e-trucks… Only Americans buy these, and they proved that the majority is OK wit supporting Nazis…

  • @cultsuperstar
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    Is it a coup if Trump and Republicans have given him permission and letting him do what he wants?

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      Yup, there is no legal due process and his team is forcibly taking control of federal organizations. This is an incredibly historical moment we are witnessing. Feast your eyes. While it often gets compared to Rome, United States for all its might will only have been a blip in the historical time frame. Supremacy not even lasting a century. It will barely be a footnote a thousand years from now. Or… Elon and Trumps gambit pays off and successfully annexes Mexico and Canada while turning the US into a true empire that prospers for another century, but not sure if I see that happening. You can only fail upwards so far.

    • @WarlockLawyer
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      Yes. Since he wasn’t elected and the actions he is taking require actual laws to pass to occur legally

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        I don’t think that’s a coup though?

        Like a coup is a specific thing. What’s happening might be fucked up, and unlawful, but not necessarily a coup.

    • @BigBenis
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      Although no one was prosecuted

      Why the FUCK do we keep letting people get away with this shit??

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        I believe the theory is that Roosevelt sat down with the Business Plot crew in secret and gave them the option of a) they convince their business pals not to oppose the New Deal too much or b) they hang. Obviously they picked option a.

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    Fully understand what is happening here in America. The far right has destroyed the rule of law and are just acting to destroy our government. Don’t let this happen to your country. Don’t let Elon Musk any where near your elections or near your country.

    • Sabata
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      Don’t let Elon Musk any where near your elections or near your country.

      A little late.

    • @[email protected]
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      Further, look and see what courting the rich and meritocracy has bought. This is the natural and probable consequences of decades and decades of austerity, privatization, and supply side economics. They’re telling you the same lies they told us, and telling you it will be different for you. It won’t be.

  • @randon31415
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    Step 1: Remove all the inspector generals

    Step 2: Gain access to the U.S. treasury payment system

    Step 3: Lock out all the rest of the treasury staff

    Step 4: Impose a 25% Tarriff on your largest trading partners

    Step 5: Profit!

    Step 6: Realize Trump backed down on the Mexican Tarriffs because the president of Mexico called and stroked Trump’s ego.

          • @Iheartcheese
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            The main concession is Mexico putting 10k troops on the border. There were a few other things as well. I honestly have no idea what Canada gave Trump

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        The Mexican president gave the first lady a blow job and now the tariffs have all been rolled back for the moment.

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      inspector generals

      I don’t want to be that guy, but the plural is “inspectors general”.

      • @T00l_shed
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        Now I’ll say it like that guy in Futurama. Inspectorses generals

      • @EmpathicVagrant
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        I say always be that guy. You have the heart to speak up and help others to learn and grow - for example I was questioning which it was, but you confirmed for me that it is indeed inspectors general.

        • Sol 6 VI StatCmd
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          I’m never gonna forget inspectors general now because of this conversation. It’s with me for life.

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          All words with that construction are pluralized that way. Inspectors general, surgeons general, courts martial.

    • @leadore
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      I don’t think she stroked his ego, I think she played hardball and showed him how he was gonna get hurt a lot more than they were, then he backed off (saving face by saying she would send troops to the border). That and the fact that women intimidate the hell out of Trump. He knows how to bully men but women get him all discombobulated.

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      Canada now as well. Trump is such a joke.

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      Step 6 is how the cabinet members got their jobs and why all the TechBros gave him a million each.

  • Hegar
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    It’s a fascist coup.

    They took control of the judiciary some time ago, they recently seized the executive and now they’re destroying any remaining institutional power that can oppose them.

    The current regime is not legitimate.

    • kamenLady.
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      The current technically still is, but the regime they are transforming into won’t be anymore legitimate.

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        Except the current “president” isn’t constitutionally eligible to hold the office after inciting insurrection, so no, it really isn’t legitimate even now

      • @NotMyOldRedditName
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        With all the voters suppression tactics, gerrymandering in the house, and all the ballots they had discarded, it’s not legitimate.

        • @Xanthobilly
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          No one has convincingly explained away the abnormally high number of bullet ballots and odd ballot switching at 500 votes in swing states like AZ, IMO.

          • @NotMyOldRedditName
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            I saw a more reputable site say that they weren’t actually as high because counting wasn’t complete and the % more evened out and that guy also had wrong numbers in cases, but I really didn’t follow up enough on it to know if it was legit not a problem, or if that site was the one making up shit.

        • Hegar
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          Elon’s cash for votes scheme, the amount of russian money and planning on one side, plus there’s a decent chance that the fascists just committed direct electoral fraud as well.

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        It’s not legitimate because most of the stuff they are doing is plain out-and-out illegal. But like they (Don Jr., etc) said before the election, they were going to go ahead and do it anyway and dare anyone including SCOTUS to try and stop them. It’s going to come down to our military to choose a side.

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    It’s not a coup if it’s not against the Leadership of a sovereign nation

    What it is, is a Constitutional Crisis led by the Executive Branch (Trump, and his minion Musk with Trumps permission and direction) disregarding Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution is known as the “taxing and spending clause.” Clause 2 is known as the “borrowing clause.”, against the Legislative Branch (Congress), which will ultimately be decided by the Judicial Branch (The Supreme Court)

    The very bad news is all 3 Branches of US Government are squarely in control of Republicans, since the last election in November, who are blindly supporting Trump

    • matlag
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      It still could be a coup inside the coup, where Musk takes control of so much of the administration that he can set the stage for a final coup to take down Trump and impose himself.

      • @NJSpradlin
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        More than likely he’d just end up a puppet president. Musk wouldn’t need to sit in the seat if Trump did his bidding.

        • @coyootje
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          Man can you imagine Elon as a president? Jeb Bush was cringe but Elon would hit cringe and awkward levels off the charts…

          • @Cenzorrll
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            Man can you imagine Elon as a president? Jeb Bush was cringe but Elon would hit cringe and awkward levels off the charts…

            Sorry, which timeline are you posting from that Jeb Bush was president?

    • @Grimy
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      It’s not a coup if it’s not against the Leadership of a sovereign nation

      I don’t think that’s a prerequisite. We talk of military coups all the time and most of them are thoroughly domestic affaires.

      That doesn’t detract from the rest of what you said however.

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        you’re confusing the words sovereign and domestic in a way I don’t understand. again, a coup is the illegal taking and transferring of power from the leader of a sovereign nation to someone or a group of someone’s not duly empowered to assume that role. that’s not what’s transpiring currently. but we sure as shit are in the middle of a constitutional crisis between the executive branch and the legislative branch.

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          This is not a courtroom, and your prescriptive weasel words are tiresome.

          This is a coup that started January 6, 2021, and is continuing now.

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        Trump cannot commit a coup, because he is already the head of state. Military coups occur when military generals step in to illegally claim the abilities of the head of state (or government) from someone else who had them legally.

        • @someguy3
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          There are many types of coup, it’s not limited to military coup. If Trump stays, it’s called a self coup.

        • @leadore
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          Per the Constitution, the US government is comprised of 3 co-equal branches. The Executive Branch is only one branch, not the government itself, so technically its taking over of the entire government could be looked at as a coup. So far the other two branches are either cooperating (legislative) or sitting idly by (judicial), so we don’t know yet whether this is a coup by the executive or just the entire government saying fuck the Constitution, we’re done with that.

          You could also say, since this is supposed to be a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, that it is a coup against the people–but the problem there is that, assuming the election wasn’t interfered with, “the people” elected this government.

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          Ups, wrong comment thread …

          Deleted.

    • modifier
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      I agree with you but am also mentally leaving room to swap who is whose minion, because that is not entirely clear to me at this point.

    • Rhaedas
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      It’s also a breach of the oath taken to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. But an oath is only as good as the intent of the maker.

  • @[email protected]
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    Musk is saying that they aren’t going to pay US contractors for up to a month.

    There is no question.

    • @foggy
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      That… Includes actual mercenaries, no?

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    Are there no drug tests for political advisors or something?
    I’d have expected this for a position with much power - just like in the military.

    Or am I that far off here from reality?

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      Musk has no clearance, wasn’t voted in, is uncredentialed, and unqualified.

      The fact that the government is just sitting back and allowing this is disgusting.

      All of it to line their pockets with what will be akin to monopoly money once they destroy the country.

      • teft
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        All of it to line their pockets with what will be akin to monopoly money once they destroy the country.

        People that rich have reserves in other currencies and precious metals. They don’t really give a shit if the US dollar crashes.

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        government is just sitting back

        They fired a bunch of FBI and DoJ, so if they’re sitting back it’s because they’re unemployed.

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        They’re why they’re so gung ho about crypto. They want to make everyone’s money worthless while they hoard all the gold themselves.

      • @[email protected]
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        That’s exactly what I don’t understand
        There are safe guards for exactly that shit in law (at least I think/hope so), but seemingly no one has the guts to step up

        But I have to admit, that I don’t know the American laws at all, and with that don’t know what their actual options are

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        So, how can he even do all that shit and the organisations don’t just tell him to go choke on a dick?

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          Mostly because it’s so brazen and fucking insane that people don’t even know what to do about it. If someone walked into your office building while waving a knife around and shouted, “get the fuck out or I’m gonna start stabbing people!” what do you think you’d do?

          My guess is that everyone is going to run out because we’ve been engrained to recognize the mechanisms in place to prevent and protect from these types of things. Anyone thinking anything other than getting the fuck out would probably be thinking “it’s not worth it, let the police handle it.”

          Let’s say you start shouting, “that’s illegal, go choke on a dick! C’mon y’all, there’s only one of him and many of us; we can’t wait for the police, ACAB!!!” I’d probably commend you when I read the article or your obituary, but everyone else in the office is going to be concerned with saving themselves and letting whatever contingencies kick in.

          Everyone with the power to stop this is sitting on their hands while waiting for someone else to step up. And we, the people? We’ve been trampled and subjugated for so long that now that we’re being told to rise up, we don’t know how. “Rise up against the system you helped manufacture? How? Y’all arrest and kill us in droves just for threatening money, much less people in power.”

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          Not an American, but my guess is that they would have to sue and then discover that the judges are all toeing the party line.

      • @[email protected]
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        Because I asked about a detail of how a foreign country runs their government?
        Sadly I do get all the shit news. I mostly wonder how this is even possible to happen in a normal state with functioning jurisdiction

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    Yes.

    Our last hope it seems: