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Nah, everybody relax. Go to work, come home to your 2.3 kids. Everything is normal. President Musk is doing everything he can to take care of the immigrant and LGBTQ problem, the only problems the USA has. Men could be playing womens sports, guys. I mean it. Massive fucking problem.
Is it a coup if Trump and Republicans have given him permission and letting him do what he wants?
Yes. Since he wasn’t elected and the actions he is taking require actual laws to pass to occur legally
Although no one was prosecuted
Why the FUCK do we keep letting people get away with this shit??
Just business as usual :P
Step 1: Remove all the inspector generals
Step 2: Gain access to the U.S. treasury payment system
Step 3: Lock out all the rest of the treasury staff
Step 4: Impose a 25% Tarriff on your largest trading partners
Step 5: Profit!
Step 6: Realize Trump backed down on the Mexican Tarriffs because the president of Mexico called and stroked Trump’s ego.
inspector generals
I don’t want to be that guy, but the plural is “inspectors general”.
Now I’ll say it like that guy in Futurama. Inspectorses generals
I say always be that guy. You have the heart to speak up and help others to learn and grow - for example I was questioning which it was, but you confirmed for me that it is indeed inspectors general.
All words with that construction are pluralized that way. Inspectors general, surgeons general, courts martial.
I don’t think she stroked his ego, I think she played hardball and showed him how he was gonna get hurt a lot more than they were, then he backed off (saving face by saying she would send troops to the border). That and the fact that women intimidate the hell out of Trump. He knows how to bully men but women get him all discombobulated.
Canada now as well. Trump is such a joke.
Step 6 is how the cabinet members got their jobs and why all the TechBros gave him a million each.
Fully understand what is happening here in America. The far right has destroyed the rule of law and are just acting to destroy our government. Don’t let this happen to your country. Don’t let Elon Musk any where near your elections or near your country.
Don’t let Elon Musk any where near your elections or near your country.
A little late.
Further, look and see what courting the rich and meritocracy has bought. This is the natural and probable consequences of decades and decades of austerity, privatization, and supply side economics. They’re telling you the same lies they told us, and telling you it will be different for you. It won’t be.
It’s a fascist coup.
They took control of the judiciary some time ago, they recently seized the executive and now they’re destroying any remaining institutional power that can oppose them.
The current regime is not legitimate.
The current technically still is, but the regime they are transforming into won’t be anymore legitimate.
With all the voters suppression tactics, gerrymandering in the house, and all the ballots they had discarded, it’s not legitimate.
Elon’s cash for votes scheme, the amount of russian money and planning on one side, plus there’s a decent chance that the fascists just committed direct electoral fraud as well.
It’s not legitimate because most of the stuff they are doing is plain out-and-out illegal. But like they (Don Jr., etc) said before the election, they were going to go ahead and do it anyway and dare anyone including SCOTUS to try and stop them. It’s going to come down to our military to choose a side.
It’s not a coup if it’s not against the Leadership of a sovereign nation
What it is, is a Constitutional Crisis led by the Executive Branch (Trump, and his minion Musk with Trumps permission and direction) disregarding Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution is known as the “taxing and spending clause.” Clause 2 is known as the “borrowing clause.”, against the Legislative Branch (Congress), which will ultimately be decided by the Judicial Branch (The Supreme Court)
The very bad news is all 3 Branches of US Government are squarely in control of Republicans, since the last election in November, who are blindly supporting Trump
I agree with you but am also mentally leaving room to swap who is whose minion, because that is not entirely clear to me at this point.
I saw this video linked earlier and thought it was an interesting tale. As of recent events it coincides with many things. (Not saying the conclusions are correct, just an entertaining take.
It still could be a coup inside the coup, where Musk takes control of so much of the administration that he can set the stage for a final coup to take down Trump and impose himself.
More than likely he’d just end up a puppet president. Musk wouldn’t need to sit in the seat if Trump did his bidding.
It sounds like that’s where we are right now.
Man can you imagine Elon as a president? Jeb Bush was cringe but Elon would hit cringe and awkward levels off the charts…
Man can you imagine Elon as a president? Jeb Bush was cringe but Elon would hit cringe and awkward levels off the charts…
Sorry, which timeline are you posting from that Jeb Bush was president?
Now hold on… Let’s not be too hasty here.
If there is another timeline, how is everything going over there? We might still have some options…
Someone said I can find a bus trip to a jeb bush presidency time line here?
Can I bring my any perishables? Or should I throw out all my spoilables?
Yes, you want Super Comfortable Passenger line buses.
E: ducking autocorrupt
It’s not a coup if it’s not against the Leadership of a sovereign nation
I don’t think that’s a prerequisite. We talk of military coups all the time and most of them are thoroughly domestic affaires.
That doesn’t detract from the rest of what you said however.
you’re confusing the words sovereign and domestic in a way I don’t understand. again, a coup is the illegal taking and transferring of power from the leader of a sovereign nation to someone or a group of someone’s not duly empowered to assume that role. that’s not what’s transpiring currently. but we sure as shit are in the middle of a constitutional crisis between the executive branch and the legislative branch.
This is not a courtroom, and your prescriptive weasel words are tiresome.
This is a coup that started January 6, 2021, and is continuing now.
Trump cannot commit a coup, because he is already the head of state. Military coups occur when military generals step in to illegally claim the abilities of the head of state (or government) from someone else who had them legally.
There are many types of coup, it’s not limited to military coup. If Trump stays, it’s called a self coup.
Per the Constitution, the US government is comprised of 3 co-equal branches. The Executive Branch is only one branch, not the government itself, so technically its taking over of the entire government could be looked at as a coup. So far the other two branches are either cooperating (legislative) or sitting idly by (judicial), so we don’t know yet whether this is a coup by the executive or just the entire government saying fuck the Constitution, we’re done with that.
You could also say, since this is supposed to be a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, that it is a coup against the people–but the problem there is that, assuming the election wasn’t interfered with, “the people” elected this government.
Not true. A self-coup is still a coup.
Ups, wrong comment thread …
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It’s also a breach of the oath taken to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. But an oath is only as good as the intent of the maker.
Musk is saying that they aren’t going to pay US contractors for up to a month.
There is no question.
That… Includes actual mercenaries, no?
Is this how the Russians felt when Rasputin was to influencing the Tsar?
I think we should test if Musk is as durable as Rasputin.
The song about it won’t be as catchy though.
The coup has already happened.
Are there no drug tests for political advisors or something?
I’d have expected this for a position with much power - just like in the military.Or am I that far off here from reality?
Musk has no clearance, wasn’t voted in, is uncredentialed, and unqualified.
The fact that the government is just sitting back and allowing this is disgusting.
All of it to line their pockets with what will be akin to monopoly money once they destroy the country.
All of it to line their pockets with what will be akin to monopoly money once they destroy the country.
People that rich have reserves in other currencies and precious metals. They don’t really give a shit if the US dollar crashes.
They’re why they’re so gung ho about crypto. They want to make everyone’s money worthless while they hoard all the gold themselves.
government is just sitting back
They fired a bunch of FBI and DoJ, so if they’re sitting back it’s because they’re unemployed.
That’s exactly what I don’t understand
There are safe guards for exactly that shit in law (at least I think/hope so), but seemingly no one has the guts to step upBut I have to admit, that I don’t know the American laws at all, and with that don’t know what their actual options are
Musk doesn’t hold any official position.
So, how can he even do all that shit and the organisations don’t just tell him to go choke on a dick?
If they push back, that person gets fired and replaced by a toady who won’t.
Yeah, talk about a hard place and a rock…
Fucking sucks, that there is seemingly no leverage against those idiots
Well. None that are within the rules.
Not an American, but my guess is that they would have to sue and then discover that the judges are all toeing the party line.
Yeah, the last years seemingly were a build up to let Trump live his dictator dream
Mostly because it’s so brazen and fucking insane that people don’t even know what to do about it. If someone walked into your office building while waving a knife around and shouted, “get the fuck out or I’m gonna start stabbing people!” what do you think you’d do?
My guess is that everyone is going to run out because we’ve been engrained to recognize the mechanisms in place to prevent and protect from these types of things. Anyone thinking anything other than getting the fuck out would probably be thinking “it’s not worth it, let the police handle it.”
Let’s say you start shouting, “that’s illegal, go choke on a dick! C’mon y’all, there’s only one of him and many of us; we can’t wait for the police, ACAB!!!” I’d probably commend you when I read the article or your obituary, but everyone else in the office is going to be concerned with saving themselves and letting whatever contingencies kick in.
Everyone with the power to stop this is sitting on their hands while waiting for someone else to step up. And we, the people? We’ve been trampled and subjugated for so long that now that we’re being told to rise up, we don’t know how. “Rise up against the system you helped manufacture? How? Y’all arrest and kill us in droves just for threatening money, much less people in power.”
It’s pretty simple: shoot him in the face.
This 100%. Violence is the only language that gets through at this point.
Although this article I read a few days ago focuses on protests, it somehow resembles this situation imho
https://crimethinc.com/2025/01/28/its-safer-in-the-front-taking-the-offensive-against-tyranny
If you always just duck down to survive, they’ll just feel confirmed and encouraged.
Every bit of resistance costs them time and money, and signals to the rest, that there is another way, than to just buckle down
Must be nice to have no idea what’s been going on.
Because I asked about a detail of how a foreign country runs their government?
Sadly I do get all the shit news. I mostly wonder how this is even possible to happen in a normal state with functioning jurisdictionI was serious. I’d like to not know any of this insanity
Ah, gotcha.
Thought you’re accusing me of not knowing anything, because I asked a question.Get your sentiment though…
Some Americans forget there are other countries. It’s unavoidable until education improves.
Yes.
Our last hope it seems:
Oh the irony
The hammer lady was absent.
The only irony I see is the people seeing it as the Apple message and not the message in the Apple ad.
The ad seems to have worked even on the unsuspecting.
It’s ironic because Apple kissed the ring
Is Apple™️? I really hope not.
The chancellor is taking power lol
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In case anyone was still wondering how people just stood by when Hitler took over Germany
That isn’t just standing by, that advocates for opposition to leave as the right answer to their concerns.
To emigrate from a country that openly hates immigrants.
To grow the majority.
I am not advocating for the “opposition” to leave. I am advocating for anyone who thinks America is a failed Democracy who thinks we’re about to be genocided to leave. Just because it’s a smart thing to do. Which is exactly what my original comment said.
I don’t assume everyone who disagrees with even a single word someone who is anti-trump says is pro-trump, because I’m not suffering from delusional internet political brainrot.
!remindme in 4 years when a genocide does not take place.
I wish you had the capacity to understand how juvenile these types of comments are.
There’s literally an internment camp planned at gitmo.
The hyperbole has been going on so long that maybe it’s easy to miss that it’s getting progressively more accurate.
My main issue is the hyperbole
So are they going to start murdering people there? Like in the holocaust?
I’m sad to tell you this, but there were camps there in the 90s, and people died of lack of health care.
As I said to my last suicide counselor- you don’t really need a plan to kill someone. You can just stop doing all the things they need in order to keep living. It’s pretty easy.
Ok so if you arrest people that are illegally in your country and put them in jail, when does it become a genocide?
When you’re targeting them not because of their legal status, but because of their ethnicity.
I’m not enjoying your weird little word game.
Yes. Trump’s administration called for “a genocide of trans people” (direct quotation) once the election was over, before he was even in office.
Trans people are having their government IDs and identifying documents seized when they try to renew their passports. Any info on gender is being scrubbed from medical and scientific research papers as we speak. An executive order was passed saying that there are only 2 genders in the US, and passports no longer accept an X gender marker.
Then there’s the immigrants being deported. They need camps to house all of them in.
All of this is very much in line with Nazi Germany, from the burning of research from the Institute of Sexual Wellness (remember the famous picture of Nazis burning books? All research and medical records from the Institute relating to gay and trans people) to the camps for immigrants, gays, socialists, and, later on, Jews which began being built 53 days after Hitler took office.
Content Warning for Ya’ll, Transphobia-
Hey I went digging and I found that one of the speakers at CPAC (the Conservative Political Action Conference) in 2023, a prick named Michael Knowles, said “For the good of society … transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely — the whole preposterous ideology, at every level.”
And then he got all mad and demanded a bunch of retractions because he claims that saying you want to eradicate transgenderism is somehow different than saying you want to eradicate transgender people and went on to say some extremely upsettingly stupid things about how it can’t be calling for genocide because “It’s not a legitimate category of being.”. Out of the two links, that one at Human Rights Campaign has a lot of other instances of assholery, so it’s a good link for this conversation.
So it seems (unsurprisingly) like chuds are trying to move the goalposts on, “it can’t be genocide if they’re not really people,” which is actually way, way more disgusting than anything else I’ve read. Glad I went looking for supporting documentation, sad I found so much of it so quickly.
And for any chuds who want to argue these points as if this is distinct from the Trump administration, please actually read that second link. There are exact quotes from Trump, from Reps, from former advisors. They did a great job collating info for us.
Would be helpful to have a link to the quote - searching for it I’m having trouble finding it. I think I have seen language about “removing transgenderism from public life” or something like that. They seem to be bringing back rhetoric used against gay folks in the 1980s, e.g. emphasizing how the “homosexuals” groom children, how they just need to not flaunt their (sexualized / perverted) lifestyle in front of the children, how it’s fine if they’re gay in private - just not in public, etc.
The quote has been buried in all the anti-trans executive orders that have been passed in the past week. I tried looking for it as well, since I saw at least a couple of articles that had quoted it directly from somebody in his administration, but all you can find now are the executive orders banning trans people from the military, etc.
Where is the quote?
If so, the smart move would be applying for citizenship in a country that isn’t a failed democracy, and getting the fuck out. Not posting sensationalist news articles and claiming fascist nazis are one step from putting us up against the wall. It kind of betrays your point.
What an absurd take!
“Clearly you don’t ACTUALLY believe something bad is happening, because you’re spreading the word about it instead of quietly preparing your escape”
Shouldn’t the fascist Nazis be knocking on your door, OP’s door, and the publishers of Democracy Now! door and putting them in a political torture camp?
Or are we just being hyperbolic when we say it’s a nazi coup?
Even Hitler did not manage to get the Gestapo set up until 4 months after he was appointed as chancellor. It has only been 3 weeks. Auschwitz was not set up until 7 years after his rise to power. Though the first concentration camp, which I imagine was more mild, was set up after a few months.
It feels like you are arguing in bad faith.
If I am getting ready to go hiking in an area where there may be bears, I don’t say to myself, “I am not currently being attacked by a bear, so I will probably not need bear mace.” In this analogy I like hiking (living in the democracy that I was born in and served to defend) therefore I will not choose to just not go hiking (leaving).
News organizations and politicians should think really carefully about publishing stories that make it seem like the United States is failed democracy.
Yes
Do you really believe that all it takes is one president and an aligned congress to completely destroy the country?
Yes
If so, the smart move would be applying for citizenship in a country that isn’t a failed democracy, and getting the fuck out.
I’m not giving up without a fight first.
How are you fighting?
Why would anyone post that info online where it can be easily traced by government officials?
Whether it’s protesting or anything else, you’d just be incriminating yourself.
Not fighting yet, just training.
You mean one executive branch, one legislative branch and one judicative branch (supreme court, which you forgot)?
So like all the branches, that are supposed to check and balance each other? Good one mate
Do you think if Trump told the military to jail democrats that they would do it?
Why don’t you go read some books on Hitler’s rise to power, and after you’ve educated yourself, re-read these insipid posts you’ve made in this thread. Or maybe you already know how it happens and are cheering it on, pretending to be ignorant in how fascism works. Either way, get bent.
After he replaced some Generals, created some New units completely loyal to him, yes.
Maybe integrate the proud boys, who he already pardoned.
As a German, this all looks very familiar. The SS didn’t start in the military.
Interesting to watch it all happen on twitter instead of a history book tho XD
applying for citizenship in a country that isn’t a failed democracy
Which country is that, exactly? What are their immigration requirements?
If so, the smart move would be applying for citizenship in a country that isn’t a failed democracy, and getting the fuck out
Me setting up a bug out bag while I arrange moving to another country
We are an empire that, when looking at history, is in it’s twilight years
Lol wut. When was the US ever a democracy?
