Warning: NSFW language
“Jewish men have small cocks because they can’t use them after they get married,” Giuliani said, according to the transcript. “Whereas the Italian use them all their lives so they get bigger.”
Giuliani railed against how Jewish people “want to go through that freaking Passover all the time” and how they should “get over the Passover” because it was 3,000 years ago. “OK, the Red Sea parted,” the transcript reads. “Big deal. Not the first time that happened.”
Giuliani doesn’t elaborate on other instances when the Red Sea was parted.
The transcripts also feature Giuliani discussing which celebrities are Republican. Giuliani is trying to think of someone in particular and Dunphy volunteers that Matt Damon is “very liberal.”
“Matt Damon is a fag,” Giuliani replies. “Matt Damon is also 5’2″, eyes are blue. Coochi-coochie-coochie-coo.”
Various websites list Damon as around 5’10”. It’s unclear why Giuliani invoked the 1920s song “Has Anybody Seen My Girl? (Five Foot Two, Eyes of Blue)” or what it has to do with the actor.
Then there are the lewd comments directed toward Dunphy. “Come here, big tits,” Giuliani says on one occasion, according to the transcript. “Come here, big tits. Your tits belong to me. Give them to me [indiscernable]. I want to claim my tits. I want to claim my tits. I want to claim my tits. These are my tits.”
People here calling him psycho and demented, when really he’s just a run of the mill old bigot with a massive platform and an even bigger mouth.
Lets stop pretending like people need Alzheimer’s or some mental illness to become more vocal about their hate, it is our society and its rapid decline back in to fascism that is allowing it, blame that.This is exactly what “locker room talk” was code for, and why Trump’s voters weren’t phased by it, this is the toxic culture they have and want to defend.
Yup, unfortunately it also seeps through in to the rest of society, where it becomes the norm to make excuses for such behaviour, partly because people can’t fathom other people being able to genuinely believe such hateful thigs and act on them, but they do, and it isn’t “something wrong with them” it’s an active and deep rooted part of our society.
All this kind of scapegoating business is just othering because it hits far too close to home to admit that bigots are everyday people like the rest of us, and that our society not only enables but encourages them.
People are just too scared to admit they may be a piece of shit, too. Well we’re all just the same pieces of shit floating around the toilet bowl.
This is much more than just hate, though. He’s saying nonsensical things, making random logical jumps, and more. He can be a bigot and have dementia, they aren’t mutually exclusive.
He’s saying nonsensical things, making random logical jumps
That’s literally antisemitism (all bigotry, really) for you. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
And you’re right, he can be both, but bringing it up is irrelevant, especially since he’s got a long and public record of this kind of behaviour, and all people are doing is armchair diagnosing (and seemingly with little understanding of what bigotry even is. And a lack of logic does not dementia make). Bringing potential dementia/mental illness up doesn’t only come across (and actively serve) as an excuse, but it’s also ableist in that it places a stigma on to people with whatever condition is being used as a scapegoat (and any that might, in a layperson’s mind, relate, however loosely), instead of focusing on what’s wrong with what he’s saying.
Both can be true as well.
Save me repeating myself:
And you’re right, he can be both, but bringing it up is irrelevant, especially since he’s got a long and public record of this kind of behaviour, and all people are doing is armchair diagnosing (and seemingly with little understanding of what bigotry even is. A lack of logic does not dementia make). Bringing potential dementia/mental illness up doesn’t only come across (and actively serve) as an excuse, but it’s also ableist in that it places a stigma on to people with whatever condition is being used as a scapegoat (and any that might, in a layperson’s mind, relate, however loosely), instead of focusing on what’s wrong with what he’s saying.
What a very oddly specific and suspicious thing to have anything at all to say about.
Giuliani micro penis confirmed.
Every accusation is a confession
Almost exposed in the Borat moviefilm.
I’m starting to wonder how many of these aged politicians start to have dementia but manage to continue.
It’s really starting to make me pretty ageist when I consider voting.
We should not be ashamed for being ageist when we are talking about politicians. The system has always been ageist with its limits directed toward young people, so I see no reason why there shouldn’t be an upper limit for old people.
Young people have more to loose when they are making decisions on climate change etc. Dudes in their 80s don’t give a shit if their policy decisions mess stuff up as in the short term their dead soon.
Even still, I’d be equally against a 90 y/o politician as much as a 9 y/o one.
Would rather vote for a 9yo
I mean the 9 year old would probably legislate Fortnite more than transpeople, so… I kinda would prefer the 9 y/o in congress
It’s bizarre that in most every other line of work, people are discriminated against and expected to retire when they’re over 60… besides low-paying unskilled labor like maintenance, where they’re forced to work by economic conditions, or very skilled work like being a lawyer or doctor. I suppose the latter is what people consider politicians. Supposedly we are reaping the benefits of their long, wise lives… which is a joke. It’s fucked up that we’re looking at an election with two people who are about 80. I don’t know anyone who is 80 who should be in a position that has massive responsibility and a busy workload. On the other hand, it’s also weird to consider electing some inexperienced twerp like DeSantis, who is younger than I am.
My firm has mandatory retirement at 65 for partners so younger professionals can become partner themselves. It’s so weird how normal that is in every industry except government.
There’s many professionals that continue to work well beyond 65. Most doctors and lawyers for example. Plus independent business owners and sports coaches… List can go on.
Basically it’s none of the governments business if someone doesn’t want to stop at 65 and fuck off if you’re suggesting the government should be enforcing some age limits on it. It’s the opposition that is responsible for building a strong enough case against old politicians that force them to retire. Not the government.
I turned 48 today. I’m starting to look at what will happen when I get to 65. At this point, I don’t think I’ll be able to afford to retire. Maybe I’ll go to part time and do freelance work or something, but I won’t be able to afford to just stop working entirely.
Sorry man, I’m your same age but I’m hopeful that I can retire early.
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Hey, nobody is keeping you here. You are the first toxic example I have experienced. If you’re not able to handle a disagreement with someone, it’s not Lemmy.
I wouldn’t worry about their age as much as their cognitive abilities.
I dunno, this stuff sounds like what I hear muttered by the meth-heads at the bus stop opposite my office. These guys in their 60s-70s are popping prescribed amphetamines to keep them going, they’ve gotta come down at some point.
Guiliani doesn’t elaborate on other times the red sea was parted
Made me laugh
Same. And then that Matt Damon bit made me howl.
That right there is quality journalism.
if you’re Jewish and didn’t know it clap your hands… then rub it to warm it up and start stroking, because you need to enhance it.
What a nasty old man
Dude is an obvious psycho, and I hope he goes to prison for his coup attempt involvement
I knew that years ago when he went off on ferrets
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America’s mayor, everyone!
He seriously could have retired after 9/11 and had an amazingly positive reputation in the history books. It would have been undeserved once you dug into it, but it would have still been positive because nobody would have looked past “America’s Mayor.”
Instead, he had to keep opening his mouth and now any residual positive reputation from 9/11 is long since squandered.
That would, however, have spared us the gold that was Borat 2 making him look like an incredible fool
On that note, I am still waiting to find out that Matt Gaetz is just Sacha Baron Cohen in a wig. It must be the only explanation
Giuliani doesn’t elaborate on other instances when the Red Sea was parted.
This actually made me lol in the middle of this otherwise inhuman font of garbage, so well done there I suppose
Seeing a lot of comments about dementia here, but I honestly think he’s just a drunk. Seen plenty of drunks in my life speak like this. Random, almost non-nonsensical comments. Random bits of songs. Screams drunkard to me.
The only part that sounded like dementia to me was the reference to the old song. The part about, “I want to claim my tits,” sounded waaay more like alcohol
“These are my tits” is definitely drunk talk.
And makes me imagine Rudy with a rocking pair of F Cups…
This might be the first time I actually agree that I look at too much porn.
I agree, but just wanted to add that this in no way removes blame from Rudy. He’d likely be just like this, but slightly more toned down if he was completely sober. His drunken state is likely just dropping whatever inhibitions he had and getting him to vocalize them out loud.
yeah, came here to say that he’s high and operating on pure associative thinking without any sort of rational filtering on top of it
“Come here, big tits. Your tits belong to me. Give them to me [indiscernable]. I want to claim my tits. I want to claim my tits. I want to claim my tits. These are my tits.”
Pure poetry from a modern day Shakespeare.
Barf. What is this l?
c/badmensanatomy ?
Pure poetry from a modern day Shakespeare.
More like Charles Bukkakeski
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It goes beyond Republicans. It’s all the right leaning insecure macho men that struggle to prove their manhood. So, they result to trivial shit like dick size and fearing someone thinking they’re gay. Losers.
I am white but born and raised in a pacific islander nation around pacific islanders. There are no men on the planet more manly and tough than pacific islanders IMO. But they are also humble, caring, giving, loving, respectful and in general some of the best people you will ever meet in this life. Piss them off and watch a real warrior comes out.
This weird American macho thing is not tough at all. To me I just see a bunch of weak posers that if called out by a real man, most would cry and beg to not get beat.
But do they have small cocks?
There are no men on the planet more manly and tough than pacific islanders IMO. But they are also humble, caring, giving, loving, respectful and in general some of the best people you will ever meet in this life. Piss them off and watch a real warrior comes out.
Ah, see, being a “real warrior” is sadly not an evolutionary advantage, at least not in the last few thousands of years.
The reason those people you are talking about are not extinct is that they were lucky to live on a remote island.
This weird American macho thing is not tough at all. To me I just see a bunch of weak posers that if called out by a real man, most would cry and beg to not get beat.
They are not tough by themselves, however they are part of a societal system allowing them as a bunch to be stronger than those real men. Then that system kills or enslaves the real men, and members of this crowd can play the macho thing without being afraid of anything.
That’s how this works. Some of my ancestors are from a nation a bit similar to your pacific islanders, only unfortunately not from an island.
they are part of a societal system allowing them as a bunch to be stronger than those real men
Bingo. Reactionary politics and male insecurity are one and the same, because reactionary political movements are constantly in search of a justification for the established hierarchy because it lacks a logical one.
It is the political equivalent of “small dick energy”
Yes… even there, it has been colonized and the real power lies in the hands of rich white people who are not from the land. The whole colonization experience that nations all over the world have experienced though time has happened there too. Whether by complete genocide or by slowly taking over, using blood quantum and other things. It is genocide.
This idea of a “real man” is part of “this weird American macho thing”.
The ven diagram of reactionary politics and male insecurity is a circle.
Technically Sephardic Jews have lots of Iberian and Italian admixture, which would mean that theirs should have some similarities with that of, eh, Italians.
And also Jews are initially a Middle-Eastern population, so more like Africans than like Finns, if you know what I mean.
I thought I was reading The Onion for a minute…
“oh your son of god died on a cross and now you gotta wear it on your chest and plaster your car? it was 2000 years ago get over it!”
that’s a spicy take rudy.
also my favorite part of the entire article is “guliani doesn’t elaborate on other instances when the red sea was parted”
like, obviously, but this felt so needlessly hilarious to add in as a detail in the article
“oh your son of god died on a cross and now you gotta wear it on your chest and plaster your car? it was 2000 years ago get over it!”
As if we don’t hear this from them all the time…
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Scapegoating Jews has existed for as long as Jews have
Especially because ‘scapegoat’ comes from a Jewish animal sacrifice (or in this case lack thereof) in the Old Testament (Leviticus 16).
The Jews are a tried and true “other”, super convenient to blame us for all sorts of shit.
And it’s scary how long since of the stereotypes against us persist. The"Jews love money" one is over a thousand years old and keeps popping up.
That’s because politicians reuse them - iirc local Nazi parties had greater share of votes in German town/regions where there had been some medieval pogrom back then.
Do you think the US is a white supremacist nation?
I’m American and don’t think everyone here is white supremacist, but there’s a frightening amount of white supremacy. There are also a lot of people who, while not racist themselves, don’t see the problem because it doesn’t affect them.
What happens if I say yes?
Edit - apparently nothing at all
a group of people who are common enough that everyone knows one, but different enough that it’s easy to other them and rile people up against them. it’s an easy way to gain power, raising up a monster and then telling people that you’ll kill it for them. jews make a good monster in predominantly Christian western societies.
As a Jew: They hate us for various reasons. Many date back thousands of years to when Christianity was just becoming the dominant religion in the western world.
For example, Jews were limited in what occupations they could have and Christians weren’t allowed to charge interest on loans due to religious restrictions. So Jews became money lenders. They became rich doing this and then the Christians resented the Jews for not only being wealthy, but because they now owed money to Jews. This is where the “Jews only care about money” stereotype came from and it’s persisted for over a thousand years. It’s also likely that this is part of the origin of the whole “Jews run the world” stereotype. Jews became rich and many powerful people could owe them money so it was imagined that Jews secretly ran the world.
Another reason for the hate is that we won’t convert to Christianity. Some evangelicals think that Jesus will only return (and the world end) when Jews run Israel and Jews convert to Christianity. The first is in place, but we stubbornly refuse to convert. Apparently, I’m singlehandedly keeping the apocalypse at bay (you’re welcome) and evangelicals hate me for it.
Given Covid19, big tech bros taking over the internet, climate change, and the rise of alt right fascism… I don’t think you’re doing the best job of halting armageddon. Ngl
But I appreciate the effort.
I’m only responsible for holding back the “Jesus returns and throws everyone into hell” apocalypse. I can’t be held responsible to all the other apocalypses. (It’s in the fine print.)
This isn’t dementia, Rudy’s just a dinosaur. A lot of big shots were sleazeballs behind closed doors when he came up half a century ago but most had the good sense to retire, die or at least stop saying their vilest thoughts out loud by now.
He’s also likely constantly drunk which lowers his inhibitions. So while a hypothetical Sober Rudy might know better than to say this stuff out loud, drunk Rudy just blurts it out.
It also doesn’t help that 30% of Americans seem to hear this stuff and think “that’s perfectly normal and I see nothing wrong with that.”
“Jewish men have small cocks because they can’t use them after they get married,” Giuliani said, according to the transcript. “Whereas the Italian use them all their lives so they get bigger.”
…I REALLY don’t think that’s how penises work, mister
Not how penises or ethnicity works.
This man seems to think about Jew dick a lot.
Many conservative politicians are known to be closeted gays so it doesn’t surprise me if he likes dicks lol
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Those are my tits
What is the context for this!?
Rudy Giuliani in drag with Donald Trump as a comedic bit, and it went exactly as you would expect, with Donald mercilessly sexually harassing Rudy.
Rudy apparently liked to do drag, including this and a performance of a song from Victor/Victoria with Julie Andrews.
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please no :(
I had finally scrubbed that from my mind
You don’t?
