I am so profoundly ashamed to be an American right now.
I’m absolutely disgusted and enraged.
I feel like a lot of the world is feeling some sort of satisfaction like “we told you the USA fucking sucked”
Fucking moron keeps bringing up Hunter Biden even in peace negotiations between Russia and Ukraine. What a disgrace Trump is.
A very small part of me wants to believe the “he’s playing 4D chess, he’s six moves ahead, and we just can’t see his next play yet” MAGAts. Because the only other alternative is that he’s a fully senile idiot who holds the most powerful seat in the country. And unfortunately for my sanity, I know his actions are not due to genius.
His GPA at Fordham was 1.28
While it probably was in that ballpark cuz he’s an idiot, that transcript image that made the rounds a bit ago was a forgery, so it’s unknown what his gpa was. Plenty of provable real stuff that shows him to be a moron, however.
american here.
watching the video of trump and vance yelling at an ally in need of help because he said “thank you” at the wrong time is insulting. dear president zelensky: i am so sorry you have to interact with that donut and his side of coffee. you, sir, are a classy fellow who deserves to be respected.
trump and vance yelling at an ally in need of help because he said “thank you” at the wrong time
That isn’t what they were doing at all.
They were yelling at an enemy in hopes of provoking him, in order to manufacture a justification for their own treachery.
As Americans, we need to understand that Trump is unilaterally forcing the US to switch sides – to betray NATO and join Russia and North Korea as pariah dictatorships – and we need to decide what we’re going to do about it.
Exactly. They were hoping that Zelenskyy wouldn’t just turn the other cheek. Because if Zelenskyy got agitated, they would use it as justification for cutting all ties.
I couldn’t even make it through a minute without rage building up and had to turn off the video. That he could sit there and put up with that ridiculous circus without getting up and leaving or punching them in the face is amazing. I could not do that. I’m pissed off again writing this and being reminded of the short video I watched.
I couldn’t watch that shit either. Gotta admit, I’m a little relieved that it is the general consensus that they were being major dicks.
This isn’t debasement. This is manners.
Manners are about you thanking the host, not about the pigs you dined with. Sometimes. The host IS the pig. But it’s still about you, so cast them some pearls.
You’ve been downvoted, but you’re right.
Folks, this is what debasement is:
debasement noun
The act of debasing or the state of being debased; a lowering, especially in character or quality.
What Zelenskyy did was the exact opposite of that: by putting his personal pride aside for the good of Ukraine despite Trump and Vance trying to double-team him with the worst bullying they could muster, he showed incredible strength of character and statesmanship.
Make no mistake: this was not Zelenskyy showing weakness or fealty towards Trump. This was Zelenskyy jumping through the hoops necessary to deny the bullies credibility for their claims that he was not cooperating towards peace. His graciousness just sets him further above them, in terms of diplomatic credibility.
In the damn near no-win scenario Zelenskyy is in, this was as close to a victory as he could possibly have hoped for.
It’s debasement because trump deserves no such respect. Zelenskyys character should never have to include bowing to this faux king. But on all accounts you are correct and I will humbly change my title if you ask.
You’re right that Trump deserves no respect and that Zelenskyy shouldn’t have to bow to him. And to be honest, I’m not sure what the best word to replace “debase” would be. Maybe “prostrate” would be slightly better, in the sense that it has more of a connotation of being coerced instead of willing? I don’t know that it’s enough of an improvement to be worth an edit.
I’m not sure if English has a single word that fully conveys “performative capitulation to the petty demands of a small man in order to outmaneuver him diplomatically.”
Then I have no manners and am fine with it.
Americans, take note, Zelenskyy is a competent, thoughtful leader who isn’t a rapist or a coward, or a cock holster for Putin.
I’d rather have Zelenskyy than Elon.
I’d rather have a toaster than elon.
I would rather Elon commit toaster in bathtub.
Masterful gambit
I’d rather have a toaster than a Cylon
I’d rather have a Cylon than Elon.
The Cylon I remember was hot enough to make me forget what my values even are.
I’d rather have a Cylon that can make toast.
Well, hang on, #6… I mean, wait no, you’re right, but…
#3 tho…
Fair point…
So say we all.
I’d rather have him than any republiQan in office today. They’re self-urinators of the lowest order; pigs are smarter, braver, and more compassionate. They’re mindscrambled idiots, thugs, and fake-jesus-licking, woman-hating shitheads.
I’d rather have him than any Republican or the vast majority of the Democrats.
The fact that the Democrats haven’t done anything meaningful to attempt to stop the self-coup is disgraceful. They should be hard on the offence. They won’t get another shot.
There is nothing more shameful than licking a fake Jesus.
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what’s the specific context here?
Trump tried to provoke Zelenskyy to blow up at him, in order to manufacture an excuse to blame the victim for Trump’s decision to ally with Putin.
got it thanks, I read a lot of the transcript, what a piece of shit Trump is.
Trump and Vance invited Zelenskyy to the White House, only to talk trash about him.
Vance asked if Zelenskyy has ever thanked for their aid. Zelenskyy responded that he has done that many times.
“You supported the other campaign” was my holy shit moment.
Like, the country doesn’t belong to you, shitheads. Someone needs to make them realize it.
How could you support someone who unquestionably had your back while your home was being attacked? The nerve.
- while in front of TV cameras for everyone to see.
ah, got it thanks.
“looking like a dick idiot in front of the world.”
thanks that whole article is bananas, i don’t think i could stand to watch the video though
Literally unwatchable
I watched 11 minutes of it. Normally I don’t yell at a screen unless my work computer freezes and I haven’t save in 10min. I was YELLING at the screen. Like full on crazy man. The audacity to change the narrative to the guy who’s being invaded is astounding.
was at white house today, it’s all over the news
