Nice! Where was the turnout during the nationals?
I’m tired of these news, of we follow what’s shared here we would have destroyed the Republicans, and they are useless and everybody hates them…
But here we are.
Yeah, realy opened my eyes to how much of an echo chamber this is.
lol. I don’t know if anyone will even see this comment.
Apparently questioning a NotTheOnion “Kamala Harris terrifies flailing Trump to the point of incoherence” story was enough for some lemmy instance to ban me, which I only accidentally learned about from another ban. All that because I dared to ask a question in a “Russia vs. Ukraine” meme thread and bring a dose of reality to a discussion.
So I learned quickly to not bother discuss simple reality, let alone anything else, with uniparty followers.
Many of the election season posts have been scrubbed of btw. Very organic!
I looked at your two links. The threads and your posts in them paint an entirely different situation to what you’re presenting here for what occurred. I see why you were banned and it had nothing to do with “bringing a dose of reality to a discussion”. You know that too though.
Reading trough your comments, I think your and my idea of what kind of echo-chamber this is are quite different. Or they are not. I don’t know.
I agree with many positions posted on Lemmy, they aligne with my world view. Some don’t. I try to be aware that this is a left space and the opinions about topics here are very different then from the right.
In my experience they are much more based on facts tough. The right seems to belive what ever the talking points are they are beeing fed and then just reproduce them. I don’t see that so much here, albeit it can happen in regards to some topics.
You have voiced opinions that don’t aline with the gebral opinions here. Since you don’t back those up with any evidence what so ever I understand why that got you banned.
All the Republican bravado and they are all whiny insecure cowards
OTOH I’d want to know which dema sat it out as a virtue signalling exercise, and now act all indignant blended into the crowd now the rest are up in arms (figuratively, of course). It’s like oh yeah, back then it wasn’t such a big deal to take control of your govt, blame the system blah blah blah.
Getting involved in actual politics at a local level is better long run than voting in big elections.
The latter is damage control. The former long run positive change.
This is immensely true, which is why you see so many maga Karens running for school board seats and making changes to what kids can learn about.
Avoiding constituents is peak cowardice—if you can’t face voters, you shouldn’t hold office.
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I guess I’m an ignorant fuck because I thought that these town halls were required by law in some way. It’s insane they can just be like “nah, not gonna show up”. It should be an instant impeachment by law.
yeah the law should just automatically depose cowards who don’t face their constituents.
unfortunately we sort of have a “who watches the watchers” situation here. expecting lawmakers to make laws to police themselves is ridiculous. idk what can be done for that honestly. the French had some ideas back in the day though.
The American Revolution inspired the French Revolution, hopefully the French Revolution can inspire an American Revolution.
This is good to highlight how the cons are hiding out from their constituents.
My Democratic rep has had two town halls, huge feisty crowds for both.
This is the opportunity for democrats running in the mid-terms to start their own town halls.
Elected dems do hold town halls like this article talks about. If you are referring to dems not in office, they’re starting to do stuff like that. For instance:
Rep. Tom Kean Jr. (R) refuses to hold a town hall in NJ-07. So next Thursday March 13 in Summit, NJ former Rep. Tom Malinowski will hold a town hall meeting to discuss the current moment and what citizens can do to protect democracy. RSVP link here (or use the QR code): https://forms.gle/RcSVhWpsrLCfT9w67
https://bsky.app/profile/njindivisible.bsky.social/post/3ljww6godzc23
Bold of you to assume we’ll be allowed to have mid-terms
Edit: that’s just me being snarky. Keep fighting the good fight. Vote in every fucking election that you can, at every level you can - federal, state, and local (and, if you’re an investor, shareholder - that, I think, is an under emphasized vector here). Be an activist in every way you can, through every path available to you.
Elections are run at the state level including for federal offices. There have already been >48 state and local elections this year since January alone. Elections are way more than just the midterms and they are still happening. See https://ballotpedia.org/Elections_calendar
Normalizing the idea that elections wouldn’t happen is just playing directly into Trump and Musk’s hands
They want us to be so cynical we stop fighting back. They want us not to vote. They want us to not protest. They want us to not boycott. They want us too tired to fight
Don’t give in, we can still win these fights
Oh, I’m not giving in. I was just being snarky. All I’m trying to do with comments like that is to get more people to take the situation more seriously. I know we’re not cooked yet, but the hot plate is getting pretty fucking toasty.
Comments like that unfortunately do the opposite - they make people defeatest which makes people stop paying attention to the situation at all
Fair point.
I admit I’ve been feeling pretty fucking bleak about things lately. I also admit I sometimes use this space as a pressure-release valve for myself. It’s fair and correct to point out that the vibe I’m introducing is counterproductive. I shall try to do better. Cheers, friend.
Wait, wait you can have productive discussions like this on the internet? (Thank you for being receptive - we need more people like you)
Same comment to both of you guys so you both see it. I can’t say it made me happy, but this thread did make me feel a little bit better. Thanks for being a decent human, even if just for these few comments.
Honestly, I’ve had a lot more interactions like this on lemmy since I joined a couple years ago than I ever had on Reddit. It’s one of the reasons I actually kinda like this place.
Good. Yell at them, too
We need people telling at them, and we need people politely approaching them with the same policies.
A game of good constituent/bad constituent, if you will.
People probably won’t need to yell at them if the Democrats actually are listening to and engaging with the voters.
If democrats think that auction paddles are gonna solve this, they still need to be yelled at.
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You think everyone you disagree with to your left is a tankie.
Democrats do not listen to or engage with voters. The last time we told them to listen. their response was ‘I’m speaking.’
Let go of that crap now. Heckling and interrupting a speech was NOT the right thing to do. Neither was staying home on election day just because Harris didn’t voice the exact right opinion on Gaza. We’re in an infinitely worse situation now.
If they engaged with their voters, we wouldn’t have any democratic representatives over age of 65. Anything past that is just posturing and self enrichment
Edit: wow I left a generally agreeable comment and fucked off for the day and apparently a lot of people want representatives older than 65? Yet no one can say why that’s a good thing they only bring up Bernie who’s an independent and not a democrat. Some of you don’t know what you want other than to shit on people online and it’s laughable
So… Bernie Sanders is posturing and out of touch?
If they engaged with their voters, we wouldn’t have any democratic representatives over age of 65.
Bernie Sanders is not a democrat.
I knew one of you would come along to move the goalposts.
So now he’s a democrat because it’s convenient for you?
Man you love telling others what they are saying, don’t you?
Your entire comment history is you editing the words of others. I wonder why that is……
Cricket cricket
What’s with the ageism? I want Democratic representatives of any age, as long as they have the right policies and they are of sound mind. People over the age of 65 will be just fine with me, thanks.
I want Democratic representatives of any age, as long as they have the right policies
The party has selected against candidates with the right policies for decades. Any boomer democrat in party leadership isn’t going to have the right policies.
Sure but age limits are in place in a million different institutions. If it’s not ageism that you can’t run for office when you’re 16 then it’s not ageism when you have an age limit for representatives. My point is representatives should represent the general population and should be able to at least understand the issues of the current age. Meanwhile the aging congress struggles with basic internet understanding so we don’t have regulations that should have been standard since the fucking 90s. It’s 2025 a person who can’t comprehend internet basics like email encryption has 0 chance of making an informed choice on crypto currency or government backdoors and their implications.
You gotta draw the line somewhere. Retirement age seems like as good a place as any.
Why do you have to draw the line somewhere?
I feel like a broken record here, but the huge uptick in ageism I see in relation to politics seems like it’s not going to, ahem, age well given the amount of things I keep seeing about slowing down/reversing aging…
I mean, yeah, it sounds kind of silly until it doesn’t. I remember reading about/thinking about things like AI (even if it’s not AGI - things like LLMs are here and disrupting the shit out of things). Same with self-driving cars. And yeah, neither of these things are perfect, but they are having an effect on society - people I know mostly got very smug and dismissive about these notions just 20 years ago. They are rather quiet about them now. I think the same thing is true about aging. Even if the breakthroughs are extremely mild and stay that way for decades, maybe even forever, suppose average healthspan is increased even 5 years. That will make (upper) age limits look very myopic and dated.
Then you update the maximum age because the younger people can be convinced something’s changed instead of emailing Tim Cook about being locked out of their Facebook. This is a non argument using the slippery slope fallacy in place of facts
I’m still just not understanding how being tech savvy relates at all to good stewardship of government?
And I say that as someone that works in tech. I find this notion baffling. I know how to code, I know databases, I know the cloud, I know a lot about networking, and I’ve used a variety of operating systems and I’ve built and maintained things in lots of different paradigms and in different types of industries, and not only for browsers. People usually look to me for their tech support. So what? I wouldn’t want me to be running the government, as not one bit of that matters to running government.
Our leaders also know jack shit about a whole lot of engineering and technology specifics in a lot of other specific areas, not just computers, and regardless of their age. So what? When it comes to setting policy, they should be working with experts from the various specialties. If someone has to explain something like nuclear fusion to them like they are a fourth grader, that’s how it has to be. I don’t see how knowing anything about one vendor’s specific product (such as Facebook) matters in the slightest.
I’d much rather have people with the wisdom to realize that while a lot of various specifics about tech might change, that an awful lot of things stay the same, especially when it comes to matters of human nature and morality…and that wisdom usually comes with age.
Because mentally incompetent people shouldn’t be in charge of steering the government. Mental competency drops fast at higher ages.
Because I only want people who have a bested interest in the future to be the ones crafting it.
You shouldn’t be allowed to vote or drive after a specific age because you become a danger to people around you.
It’s not about how long you live so much as getting stuck in your ways. Old people don’t learn new things and adapt the way young people do. Humans solidify the way they do things in their 20s, make some fine tuning in their 30s/40s, and then pretty much stick to those habits for the rest of their life. With the way technology is progressing we can’t have stagnant people leading an evolving society.
There are exceptions to every rule but that doesn’t mean statistics aren’t valuable information to base decisions on. Do you want people stuck in the past making laws about the future?
I just don’t understand this line of thinking at all. I don’t want people to have their moral fiber evolve. Bernie has been right for decades now, as a for instance. I wouldn’t want him cut out of politics based on some stupid and myopic ageist rule.
Also, this line of thinking is what I’m pointing out is what is stuck in the past, by the way - I’m saying if we put into place some arbitrary age limits based on looking backwards, just as technology upends all this, that would be the fixed mode of thinking about humans, their capabilities as they age, and proper stewardship of the country.
If people start having longer healthspans, I most definitely want people with the broader view to be running things, and that would mean people far older than they are right now, even. In that scenario, the older the better, in my view. In some cases, you have “old souls” among very young people who have the intelligence to talk to people that are older than them, or glean lessons from the past in other ways. This is often quite rare, unfortunately.
Now, I would be in favor of having tests for capabilities, much like we have for older drivers in at least some states.
So you’d be fine with a child holding the role? After all why draw a line. Age relates to capability on both ends.
I hate that’d you’re downvoted and no response because this is the right take. We have age limits already but old people don’t want those to apply to them because … no reason they just want to continue holding power
Yeah, but Gaza! I think I’ll sit it out again to show them!
/s cuz apparently even dems online don’t understand sarcasm
I bet the Democrats are using the momentum to send a stern message. And the press will proudly feature articles of how the Democrats SLAMMED the white house!! And the White house will barely notice, and go on doing what they are doing.
Exactly. Anyone who thinks the Dems will save them is delusional. It’s time to move beyond a two-party system, and especially a system in which the two parties are right wing and ultra-right wing.
@Sunshine Hopefully they will turn out as much at the voting booth
Hopefully they’ll have something worth turning out for. Let’s see if you become hostile to the suggestion that democrats need to become better in order to appeal to voters.
Great. Now the Democrats can have everything lined up to take over during the midterms and…change nothing.
We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas.
….said the 90 million people that stayed home in November.
That would be liberals and their failed attempt of democracy
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ROFL!
Last time we had a filibuster proof majority was in 2009 for two different periods of two months each.
Essentially Republicans have either been in power or had enough power to stop Democrats for the entire voting lives of most people on this sub.
Last time we had a filibuster proof majority was in 2009 for two different periods of two months each.
Any time during which democrats possessed a simple majority, they could have done away with the filibuster forever. Stop making excuses.
It’s crazy that there are people still using this line. I’m sorry but when was the last time the Republicans had a “filibuster proof majority”. They seem to be doing really well in getting their policies passed.
The Democratic party is an absolute failure in providing the policies that they pretend to want. I’m so tired of hearing this “there is nothing we can do”.
It’s like the Democrats are sitting here constantly complaining that “a dog can’t play basketball” while they get dunked on by a dog over and over.
We are at this stage BECAUSE the Democrats are trying to “play by the rules” that the Republicans threw out the fucking window decades ago. We have DOGE and people are still using this “filibuster” excuse for a pathetic excuse for a resistance party. Stop defending their incompetence!
Implying we’ll have a midterm
I worry about this too
We will. It will not matter. Congress will likely be powerless by that point. Or a large portion of the Democratic party will align with the fascist policies by then as their donors place more pressure on them. We know how much democrats love to “reach across the isle”.
Keeping up the illusion of democracy is the one of the most important things for the bourgeoisie to maintain. They will go through the charades for sure.
It’s more important that people see through the charades of our system. I’m hoping that starts happening more.
I feel like everyone is waiting for a “moment” to get them off their couch. By the time that moment happens it’s already too late.
This is the equivalent of Elon Musk listening to his workers.
Nothing will change.
