I live in the Allegheny National Forest area, of Pennsylvania and it’s regularly logged. I could even buy a permit to cut my fire wood from the forest if I wanted to. But it’s all done in a relatively responsible way. There is no clear cutting, and I could only take a certain amount of trees for personal firewood use. They log for forest management, the same way they have controlled burns.

If you have a local forestry service, or some sort of similar organization, go talk with them. Ask them what the current policies, practices and plans are. Ask them if they anticipate any changes based on the new Republican Administration and plan any actions based on that information.

I’m nervous about new gas wells around here, but Pennsylvania has a process where you have to request a permit and it’s only good for one year, and they post the latitude and longitude of all the permit requests they get. So at least I have access to that information.

I suppose I am referencing a national forest and you are referencing a nation park. There are differences there for sure, so this might not be as applicable as I thought.

Are you overreacting? No. Start spiking trees if you want to save them.

It’s worse. I seem to remember that the US has lithium deposits in a national park somewhere.

As a Canadian looking in, I honestly believe they will. They’ve already done worse things and gotten away with it.

The US isn’t doing it, one small group is and nobody’s stopping them. Subtle difference, I know.

I’ve heard that it’s problematic to log them as there isn’t enough sawmills in the US to cover the given and they are all low on staff + those mills are standardized for those Standard sized trunks and not old-growth forest wood.

That doesn’t mean I doubt it but that’s some hope on the horizon

Yes I do. But I think the logging will mostly take place in the unvisited and ecologically important part of parks while the part of parks intended to receive visitor will remain “pristine” until the whole ecosystem collapses when the wildlife die off.

He’ll really try. It’s up to us to stop him.

Let’s be real, has Trump ever been to a national park? Like really been to one and not just popped in for a speech or photo op? Has he ever, in his entire sad life, been on a fucking hike? Been farther than 500 ft from the next nearest human? These places aren’t even real in his mind, they’re just concepts. It’s impossible to really imagine consequences to actions against concepts. He’ll absolutely make our parks private property if given the chance. Don’t like it? Too bad, go get rich and buy your own national park, nobody’s stopping you.

I hope he and Elon live long enough to end up in the bread lines they’re going to cause.

We should collectively use necromancy to resurrect Teddy Roosevelt to beat the shit out of the current administration.

There’s so much other federal land that can be logged before going for the tourist attractions. It would just politically look bad if they did. I’d say probably not.

EDIT: You know what, on second thought, I’m still surprised every day what this administration is doing so I could see them doing it just to show they can.

I think there’s going to be incredible pushback, and I hope it’s far more than some angry tweets. So far Trump seems to make big moves like this only to reverse or walk back what he said later.

So he could easily just make the suggestion but not take actual action for some time. Or use it as leverage to make other deals (change emmisions rules or the national parks get logged)

He would be wise not to mess with Teddy’s parks

I think every single acre of public land will be gleefully giving away to billionaires yes.

god this is a sad thought

Doubtful but all other public lands yes.