• tornavish@lemmy.cafe
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      I know that, decades ago, mental asylums were a pretty shitty place to be. But I think the right solution would have been to make them better, not just get rid of them and let them breed. I also know a lot of very normal/stable people got trapped in there.

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        I don’t disagree with improving mental health care, but holy shit does the line “let them breed” make me uncomfortable. In an ideal world, they could get support to the level which is needed and could live fulfilling lives which may or may not involve children. In this world, I still don’t want to sterilize anyone just because of their mental health (I’d extend that more broadly, but I could see the case for voluntary chemical castration in response to some limited number of crimes).

        I don’t know if that’s actually what you meant or if you meant it more like “let the problem get worse,” though.

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          It should. This is straight up eugenics. No one should be making genetic fitness a priority when proposing state policy.

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            If you are conservative, you should be forcefully sterilized.

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            Can achieve the same thing by just removing safety labels, lol.

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          No one said sterilization. It’s difficult to have babies in an asylum… without major red flags.

          I don’t know what word to use, So I’m just going to use the word crazy. I understand this is not the word people prefer to use. Have you seen how crazy people are in the United States? I don’t mean just over the top, I mean screaming and yelling in the street, shooting up schools, the list goes on. All of that behavior can be identified. And these days, I think maybe it would have been best if we locked everyone like that up, and did not allow them to fuck.

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            See like, you’re almost all the way there, but then say some eugenicist thing at the very end. Twice now. Just drop that one bit and you’re good.

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    I wonder if Fox is gonna talk about this 24/7 for the next two years like they did Jussie Smollette

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      Smollette was equally condemned and ridiculed by the left as well as the right, but FOX performed a giant song-and-dance number to portray the case as something the left was supporting.

      But none of this is surprising. This story about Natalie Greene will never make more than subnote in the FOX chiron that scrolls past, ensuring none of the nearsighted, elderly bags of fear and hate who keep the network blasting night day won’t even notice or hear about it.

      Our world has left behind any desire for truth and everyone, everywhere, this site included, just want to live in narratives and stories that make them feel something.

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    It feels like part of that is suppressed kinks. Who comes up with such bdsm scenario?

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    Is calling the cops part of their kink? I get the cutting, bondage, body writing, and humiliation aspects of it, but no need to get the cops involved.

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      I don’t get the cutting. For a stunt I think that’s super unhinged. All the other stuff is temporary. Though I suppose if she’d gotten away with it she’d have a story for life and the scars to “prove” it.

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          I can see knife/blade in a sexual context but not for a political stunt. But as you suggest maybe that’s sexual too

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    I think the article is correct to mention “A former staffer for Rep. Jeff Van Drew”. I mean, it’s possible she acted independently, but also likely she was encouraged by her superiors.