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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/44407468
Chief Justice John Roberts warned against personal attacks on the judiciary, telling an audience Tuesday that while criticism of opinions is fair game, “personally directed hostility” is dangerous and must stop.
Roberts did not mention Donald Trump by name and, as he so often does, he went out of his way to stress that the attacks he was referring to were coming from “not just any one political perspective.” However, the chief justice’s admonishment came weeks after Trump said that justices who ruled against his sweeping tariffs were an “embarrassment to their families.”
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Have you tried not being corrupt oligarchs?
Phwoah calm down with the corruptoligarchophobia there!
Remember that simple trick: if your speech would be derogatory if you replace ‘corrupt oligarch’ by any other minority, then you might want to report yourself to the nearest corrupt law enforcement authority and donate some of your time and money to your local oligarch (they need all the money).
Won’t someone think of the poor billionaires
Eat shit Roberts, you’re one of the biggest enablers in all this
Hostility from the court towards anyone who’s not a rich white man needs to stop.
Clear favoritism towards Republicans in rulings needs to stop.
Justices taking bribes needs to stop.
Justices wives trying to overturn elections needs to stop.
The court making the president a king needs to stop.
Thomas and Alito being fucking pieces of shit needs to stop.
I can go on.
Can I suggest, humbly, then, that you guys start by throwing away your present constitution and start anew?
Yeah I’d love to but that’s not going to happen without suffering on a scale this country hasn’t seen since the Great Depression or a civil war.
Getting real sick of all the “Just overthrow the govt you lazy Americans! You’re not doing anything and that means you accept it.” takes on here.
Tell that to Minnesotans or Chicagoans or Los Angelinos.
“laziness” does not exist. It’s just a placeholder term used for when we don’t understand why people aren’t doing what we individually want them to.
I’m afraid it has been farther way from that. Sincerely, I hope something happens and you guys just make a turn around.
Yeah apologies it’s just exhausting sometimes. We’re trying but it’s not at a critical mass yet. I worry too many people are waiting for him to die thinking that’ll fix everything when he’s a symptom and not the disease.
The guy peacefully pass in his sleep would be something. I dread the infighting that would follow for the “throne”.
If that infighting stops America attacking anyone else in the meantime, then by all means, have at it.
- the rest of the world
That is utterly depressing to read but something too welcome to happen.
There are a significant minority of protestors, like the groups you mention. It’s not laziness they are being accused of. It’s their inability to match the scale, intensity and severity of the response to meet the threat.
When one side has armed gestapo paramilitary and majority control of the levers of state power and media and the other side has signs, clowns and furries protesting, the world sees a losing strategy.
The lack of a general strike is telling. Everyone everywhere faces hardship, but other places would have, long ago (like you should have under Regean long ago!)
Your billionaires know most of you are scabs and class traitors, they will not stop now.
Put up or shut up.
He’s violated his oath of office countless times. Doing so intentionally, once, should result in immediately disqualifying someone from holding any public office elected or appointed, existing or future. Change the locks on their office doors, stop their pay checks, and revoke their physical\digital access.
Resign then
When Roberts retires, who is in line to replace him as chief justice?
Probably kid rock or Joe Rogan.
Anyone can be nominated, so it depends entirely on who is President at the time.
Roberts himself was (briefly) a nominee for associate justice when William Rehnquist died, but Bush pulled that nomination and put his name in for chief instead. So it doesn’t even have to be a current Supreme Court Justice who replaces him.
Anyone can be nominated,
Coney Barrett, she trialed one case. So we can expect Pam Blondi.
Chief Justice has been considered a separate slot for nomination purposes as of the late 19th century, so when he retires or croaks, the job will come open. Sometimes the then-president nominates one of the existing justices and backfills, but it’s completely possible, as @[email protected] says, to directly nominate the new person for chief justice; it’s actually pretty common to do so.
In this timeline? Trump.
No, it doesn’t. In fact, Roberts should consider himself lucky it isn’t much worse, considering that he and 5 of his collegues are nothing more than activist political hacks, completely undeserving of the job.
The biggest slide away from democracy into fascist dictatorship occurred as Justice Roberts and then Chief Justice presided. He is directly responsible for the low quality of life we are all enduring. He deserves all the hate that is sent his way.
That’s unfair.
Merrick Garland deserves some blame for not indicting Donald for insurrection.
John Roberts is a W appointee. He and Clarence Thomas are responsible for setting a lot of the presumption among the right that the SCOTUS could be captured. Their rulings were egregiously partisan.
I have a first amendment right to be hostile according to them.
Depends if they decide it’s an official act.
According to the current majority, no you don’t.
You only have a First Amendment Right to be hostile towards “the radical left, the Marxists, the anarchists, the agitators, the looters and people who in many instances have absolutely no clue what they are doing.”
More importantly, it is imperative that Chief Justice John Roberts’ heart stops.
“Heart”?
I think it was doonesbury, or maybe bloom county, but the media is fascinated about this surgical operation where they’re going to transplant a liberal heart into a conservative body. The doctor says something about how they had trouble finding a liberal heart that wasn’t bleeding, but that they had a harder time finding a conservative with a heart.
Once again, I will mention that “originalism” and “textualism” were a fucking death knell for jurisprudence, which barely withstood Bush et al, to say nothing of a brazen bad actor like Trump. They are the dark side of legal reasoning: quicker, easier, more seductive, but once you go down that dark path (with a ritually worshipped constitution that was a nice bit of kit for its time and place but is maddeningly vague and almost impossible to amend), forever will they dominate your destiny.
It’s impractical and deeply, inherently regressive to think that a few clever slaveholding provincials had everything figured out forever and ever (see also the almost impossible to amend part), and pretending that it’s workable without applying thought and context should be grounds to get someone disbarred.
“originalism” and “textualism” were a fucking death knell for jurisprudence
I might at least have the stomach for these philosophies if they promised some kind of judicial consistency or a tangible stare decisis. Instead, it’s pure Calvinball. The courts read the same statutes and precedents in polar opposite ways, purely based on the ideological shifts in conservative media.
It’s impractical and deeply, inherently regressive to think that a few clever slaveholding provincials had everything figured out forever and ever
Sure. But then you’ve got guys like Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito taking bribes in the open from oligarchs intent on extorting the modern day working class. And you realize its not the latter day slaveholders who are calling the shots.
Maybe we’ll consider it once the judiciary stops being hostile to the American people.
It stops when you quit your job, you traitor.
This, folks, is how the entitled class behaves. Kavanaugh is another great example. Born with a silver spoon in their mouth, guided by others into a top position. They only had to show up to the party while the rest of us idiots struggle to survive. Of course they expect to be able to do anything they want without consequence. This is not about Roberts noticing that opinion has changed, this is him suffering that there is pushback.
Don’t forget, that piece of greasy shit, Kavanaugh was wailing like toddler when he thought the Supreme Court appointment that he was so entitled to might be taken from him. It demonstrated that he did not have anywhere near the temperament to be a judge, let along a supreme court justice after that unhinged rant he went on.
Yeah that was pathetic. Basically “I’m allowed to be a bro, guys. How dare you question me!”
Judge Boofing?
