Thanks Christians, you can shove that bible right up your collective asses.
That’s why the Republicans want them in classrooms, instead of “love thy neighbour as thyself”. Because that would imply that racism is bad, and that’s something they do not want to hear.
Real quick Google, absolutely none of this information vetted so take it with a pinch of salt.
10 commandments written around 1300-1600 BCE. Average life expectancy 20-35 years.
You’re not an adult for very long before you snuff it, and if you wanna have kids you gotta start as early as possible.
Average “life expectancy” in the past is misleading because it is skewed by high rates of infant/child mortality. If you made it to past your first few years, you stood a much better likelihood of reaching old age.
Average life expectancy and common life span doesn’t really correlate. As a simplified example, if half of babies die before their first year, and everyone else lives to 60, average life expectancy would be 30.
Neither in Judaism nor Christianity are the Ten Commandments the only religious rules that exist.
Well 10 commandments are part of Deuteronomy, older than christian religion, and the book was nitpicked by those who institutionalized Christianity.
The ten commandments are a old testament thing, textually written by Moses as he attempted to copy the ones God had written and that Moses shattered after the golden calf.
Christianity extended the Jewish scripture with the gospels, which include a story where God Himself Slumming As A Human was asked what the most important part of the law was, and Jesus said “love” twice.
If “love everyone as you love yourself” doesn’t lead you to not abusing children, I don’t think any book of good behavior is going to stop you.
The letter J wasn’t even invented until the year 1524AD, so as a logical person, I think it’s all a load of horseshit written by people after the year 1524, not all that long in historical context to the invention of the printing press in 1440, to brainwash and control the masses as they gradually started teaching average people how to read.
Government + Vatican = control of the people…
I share to a certain extent your skepticism towards the good book and religion as a whole. I don’t think your letter j argument holds any water though. The first uses of the letter j were as i’s to make them more legible in handwritten words. And it took time until scribes started using it as a separate letter. The sounds they meant to connote already existed. Julius Caesar was just Iulius Caesar. I agree with you that religion can be used as a tool to control the masses. Just don’t make any logical leaps based on English spelling in particular, which makes no fucking sense to begin with.
I mean, we still have INRI on most crosses right? There are plenty of other reasons to be critical of how Christianity was institutionalized and the Bible assembled but the whole letter J thing doesn’t really hold any water.
My logic is simple…
STOP OBSESSING WITH ANCIENT HISTORY AND LOOK AT WHATS GOING ON TODAY, under the guise of religion…
You know why? When the Bible was written, crimes against children were considered property crimes against their father. Thou shalt not steal, and thou shalt not covet, both indirectly protect kids about as much as they’re intended to. Which isn’t much.
When the Bible was written is a very abstract concept covering a large timeframe
Interesting take, and not entirely wrong either imo. Though, I think the real reason is simply that such a commandment wasn’t necessary, because it was already implied from the very beginning. God gave Adam and Eve the mandate to care for his creation, and in conjunction with the fact that “Love the Lord your God” is the very first commandment (which means to follow his commandments), respecting the people that God created in his image would have absolutely unquestionable in the mind of the ancient Israelites.
The really hard to accept part is how this respect for what God made included the destruction of what is not of him, which included people. It’s a very alien concept to us today in our culture. The important part is that what you read in the Bible (esp. the Old Testament) cannot be taken at face value. Everything is seeped in historical context that often makes things seem at a glance to be the opposite of what they actually are. The translation from Hebrew and Greek compounds this problem.
TL;DR: If you want to take solace in confirmation bias, it’s not hard to do, and to blame you for doing so would be incredibly hypocritical of me. Remaining truly objective is the most grueling exercise in self-awareness and accepting uncomfortable possibilities anyone could ever undertake.
Interesting perspective. But yeah it seems like they danced all around the subject altogether.
Just as they don’t mention animal abuse, those morals don’t keep people in line.
The ten commandments are just part of the whole.
They do talk about animal abuse, along with slave prices, death penalty etc.
See Deuteronomy. Very fun read.
Indeed, and really there ought to be a few more commandments, such as:
‘Thou shalt not abuse earthly environmental resources beyond necessity’
Or something like that anyways. Really, if there’s only 10 commandments, they should be simplified and boiled down to only a couple or few commandments or so that encapsulate them all, as the late George Carlin presented…
Here’s another one based on the general conversation here:
Thou shalt not exploit or abuse a vulnerable person or creature.
Open to some interpretation, of course. But concise enough to cover the brush strokes if those who are obsessed with the Ten Commandments were to really follow through on implementing them.
I’d replace ‘a vulnerable’ with simply ‘any’, to be more broad about it, almost nobody deserves abuse.
Well, except serial killers, cannibals, leaders that orchestrate genocide, etc. in the worst of the worst fields of evil people. I’m not God, I’ll turn a blind eye to giving them a dose of their own medicine…
“Thou shalt not rape” just didn’t make it onto the top 10 list.
Did they even have a definition of ‘rape’ back in biblical times?
Sorry I’m not exactly a biblical expert, but I refuse to believe that Jesus’ mother Mary was a virgin, someone had to have fucked her over 2000 years ago.
Please mods don’t crucify me for this comment…
Rape is mentioned in Deuteronomy of course.
It’s on the 5 that Moses dropped.
Probably because when it was written, marrying off kids and having them reproduce pretty much as soon as they hit puberty was the norm.
It wasn’t the norm, that’s a myth. Child birth is dangerous, having children that young was even more dangerous. Children of rich families were married off young for political reasons, but even they waited with having children until they were older.
And they still study that today… ☹️
they are probably covered by other biblical laws that apply to adults… like, if you rape one you just have to marry it because you can’t burden the father with damaged goods, unless it didn’t scream enough, then it shall be stoned to death.
Just because it’s not spelled out, doesn’t mean it’s not there. Critique made without a genuine effort to understand the cultural and historical context isn’t worth much.
Very first commandment (as summarized by Jesus) is “Love the Lord your God.” Combine that with the mandate to Adam and Eve to care for God’s creation, and the core tenant of Judaism that loving God implies obedience, and the concept of respecting that of his creation which bears his image becomes immediately obvious.
I don’t give a shit about cultural and historical significance, when today is what counts, and the leaders and oligarchs in charge that supposedly believe in Christian faith are actively committing genocide, bombing schools of children, and they’re entangled in a pedo ring…
If this is what the Bible is all about, ‘fOrgIVe mE faThER fOr i haVe sinNeD’ is all about, then fuckit, burn the bible and start a new belief system that actually makes sense and respects people in general, rather than abusing and killing them en masse and destroying the ‘holy land’.
What’s holy about the land anyways, ancient history, or the bomb craters today?
Sorry, Jesus ain’t coming back to save anyone, people need to put down their arms and go home to serve and protect their families. Jesus didn’t have a gun, and even if he did, he most likely wouldn’t have used it.
Fuckall with war in the name of the invisible man in the sky.
One could say that’s what the New Testament is, and Jesus put a lot of focus on loving others. The two commandments, which the ten are built upon, is pretty comprehensive. But don’t worry, people will find a way to excuse bad behavior if they really want to do it. If it isn’t religion, it will be nationalism, race, culture, which direction the bill of your cap faces, or if the color of your socks match.
My cap always faces forward, as designed to be used, to block sunlight from the eyes. But wait, my socks are different lengths and one is lighter than the other?
Fuck, RUN!!!
The true heathens are the people with their cap on backwards, shading their eyes from the sun with their hands.
Oof, yeah you got a point there, I’ll never understand that.
The only time I tilt my cap is to follow and block the sunlight wherever I happen to be sitting. Backwards is never the answer.
