I always pump for 20 Swiss francs so i dont care.
Until ur car runs out of gas one time when driving to work, cos 20 bucks doesn’t give u enough gas anymore to drive this far.
Where are my buddies: coal rollers? What happened to them?
Finally, Americans see what Europeans live with.
Enjoy your Kia Piccantos 🤣
'Murica - we need to CRUSH Iran 💪
Also 'murica - why is our gas so pricey? 😭😭😭
That Car Wash better be some kind of rocket fuel.
Still dirt cheap when compared to prices here. I have no ideas what you 'mericans whine about.
Does your country have a working public transit system?
Depends. Public transport is a city thing. Out in the country, not that much. We are in between, having the local public transport hub, which means there are busses every hour during the day.
Nope :/
Well, it’s also 87 octane.
Where I live it’s $6.50 a gallon, but for 95 octane, which I don’t think you can even get in the US.
You’re probably thinking of 95 RON gasoline, but US pumps advertise gasoline in AKI. 95 RON is equivalent to 91 AKI, which is what they’re selling as “Supreme” in the OP photo.
Whatever it is, my gasoline options are 95 and 100. That’s it.
Still sounds like you’re saying my options are 91 and 93 AKI or whatever. So the US 87 Regular is lower quality.
Octane rating has no bearing on the quality of the fuel lmao. It just runs better in engines that are designed to run it.
Octane rating does not relate directly to the power output or the energy content of the fuel per unit mass or volume, but simply indicates the resistance to auto-ignition under pressure without a spark.
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That sounds about right to me. Some places will sell 93 AKI/100 RON in the US, but it’s not as common, and the only cars that actually require it are probably modified turbocharged cars. Most US commuter cars run perfectly fine on 87 AKI and it’s significantly cheaper. I live in Washington so for some reason they sell 92 AKI gasoline, which is an oddball number I don’t see anywhere else.
I’ve found older, worn down cars and high compression engines get a lot of spark knock if you don’t use 93. And that’s after making sure everything’s clean inside.
Is this some kind of empirical joke I’m too metric to understand?
I kid, I’m Canadian so I know off the top of my head a gallon is 3.81 litres.
*Imperial
Empiricism is a different thing entirely
8.199$/gallon, that’s 1.846 €/Liter Diesel. Meanwhile in Germany I had to fill up at 2.389 €/Liter, at times it’s over 2.50
Diesel is equivalent to 2 €/Liter in Australia right now. Given that the country runs on diesel, its a nightmare. Even the few people who don’t own cars are hurting, because the ships that bring in food run on diesel, the trucks and trains that bring the food from the ports to the rest of the country run on diesel. The grain producers and cattle farms, some of which are the size of small countries, all run on diesel. The cost of diesel is hitting everyone.
brazil here, diesel is 6.49 BRL per liter here, that’s less than an euro, turns out all that sugar cane ethanol did help with something0
yay for having some energy independence
Honestly, I can’t be bothered to get that worked up about gas. I’ve exclusively bought hybrids for like a decade now, and I’ve moved to areas that are close to work and anything else I want to go to. I fill up less than once a month. If gas is “really high”, it might break $40 for a fill up, which is less than I’d spend at a cheap restaurant if I got an appetizer and two entrees. It’s literally a rounding error on my monthly budget, so even if it was $20/gallon, I would be unfazed.
We went all EV last year, and it’s been great to not care about the price of gas at the pump.
The real problem though, is all the other things you buy like clothes and groceries, etc. are impacted by the price of gas and oil used to create it and ship it around. You may not notice the price directly in fueling you car, but eventually, you will be paying dearly because of those high gas prices.
Same boat. Gas prices mostly hit people driving gas guzzlers hardest, and that’s actually a good thing. Maybe you shouldn’t drive a “non-passenger work vehicle” that exists purely in a loophole carved out by car manufacturers to avoid fuel efficiency standards as your primary personal vehicle.
US car manufacturers were incentivized to do that and to push for policy and marketing that encourages pickup ownership because pickups have had a protective tariff, making them more profitable than other types of vehicles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax
The Chicken Tax is a 25 percent tariff on light trucks (and originally on potato starch, dextrin, and brandy) imposed in 1964 by the United States under President Lyndon B. Johnson in response to tariffs placed by France and West Germany on importation of U.S. chicken.[1] The period from 1961 to 1964[2] of tensions and negotiations surrounding the issue was known as the “Chicken War”, taking place at the height of Cold War politics.[3]
Eventually, the tariffs on potato starch, dextrin, and brandy were lifted,[4] but since 1964 this form of protectionism has remained in place to give US domestic automakers an advantage over imported competitors.[5] Though concern remains about its repeal,[6][7] a 2003 Cato Institute study called the tariff “a policy in search of a rationale.”[4]
https://www.slashgear.com/1809287/chicken-tax-explained-history-current-impact/
If you’re an automaker, you want to market those protected vehicles to consumers, because it’s more-profitable. You don’t really have to compete with foreign-made autos in that particular class.
And you want to lobby for policy that encourages consumers to buy them. So, for example, the US has more-stringent towing standards than does Europe. You need a bigger vehicle to tow a given amount of weight…which encourages buying pickups. And the US has emissions standards that give special preference to large vehicles.
https://newrepublic.com/article/180263/epa-tailpipe-emissions-loophole
While the new emissions rules have been praised in most coverage for tightening standards and thus speeding the transition to electric vehicles, they also preserve long-standing special treatment for big trucks and SUVs, which exempt larger cars from more stringent emissions standards. The EPA has made a little-noticed attempt in the rule to keep companies from exploiting the sorts of loopholes they have in the past, but industry giveaways that were added into the final rule could undermine their ability to reduce emissions. When the rules take effect, for instance, starting with cars in the 2027 model year, Ford Super Duty pickups will reportedly be able to emit more than three times as much carbon dioxide as light-duty pickups like the still very large Ford F-150, and nearly four times as much as a passenger car.
“The biggest pickup trucks are allowed very gentle treatment. If you create a loophole, that’s what they will drive through,” Dan Becker, director of the Center for Biological Diversity’s Safe Climate Transport campaign, says of the new rules. “Vehicles are getting larger and larger because the larger the vehicle, the weaker the standard.”
I also don’t sweat gas prices but it affects a lot of people disproportionately. A lot of low income earners have to drive a lot, either because of the job or because they can’t live closer to where they work. It’s not like they charge a fuel surcharge for lawn care for example.
I have heard this, and it sucks, but also good. Low income earners also have considered gas an “ignorable expense” for too long. It’s something that some budget for, but for most its simply ignored.
Everyone should realize how much they depend on oil. For low income hopefully they wake up and start considering other modes of travel. Carpools, bikes, transit (and demanding better transit too). It’s not fair that it affects them more, but the vast vast majority of Americans consider gas to be “normal” and its high time everyone gets real with how fragile the system is there.
But also good?
Try it sometime. Being poor saddles people with so many extra burdens, what’s one more right? Fuel has never been an “ignorable expense.”
Lots of this demographic rely on tools and supplies to perform their jobs. How would that work with carpools, bike and transit? It simply doesn’t.
I had a contractor call up 2 weeks go and tell me he couldn’t fix a problem simply because he couldn’t afford the gas to my site. He’s a great guy we’ve used for years.
I have been poor, most if my life, and I stand by it.
Your contractor? You’re thinking about gas, and your contractor is. Good. We should be thinking of gas as this wildly volatile thing that can completely upend life on the whim of giant corporations, and thinking of using alternatives.
Sucks that the US is so car-centric. If there was actual public transit (especially of the electric variety), people would struggle a little less.
The same thing happened during the pandemic. Cities are built with large zoned swaths for residential, business and commercial all divided. When you can get around easy, that can work. But then suddenly with the WFH shift, entire sections were greatly impacted (such as restaurants in business districts).
On the other hand, Asian and European cities that have dense mixed use zoning fared much better because the restaurants could serve people regardless if they were wfh or at an office.
Is America already great?
I remember the MAGA trash putting stickers of Joe Biden on gas pumps when it was $2.60 a gallon. Scum pretty silent now.
Oh, they’re very loud when they see a Trump pointing meme stickered to the pumps now.
So, so great. Thanks for asking
It’s going to be emitting less carbon dioxide, at any rate.
that costco membership paid for itself in one tank
Laughs in EV.
So glad I bought a cheap used one in February.
This is exactly the point of any war for the US. Secure cheap oil. Hence the terror around the world. I hope Iran kicks tRump’s ass. Or someone assassinates that fuck.
We’re paying $3.99 where I live. The extra in California is all taxes, yes?
without getting into too much detail, there are three separate oil markets in the united states. california has its own. it’s not california taxes, it has its own separate refinery and crude intake system with its own problem dealing with futures speculation.
Not all but a lot. It also is blended differently to pollute less, so it costs more. Importing oil from other states to be refined is also more difficult.
there is no “importing oil from other states”
you see how california is its own market right there, right? all the oil gets imported through oakland, they’ve got a big refinery complex in the bay area and one down near taft, not entirely sure what’s in southern california but it’s fairly isolated from the rest of the country. your map illustrates my point.
CA gets some oil from Alaska. My point is that other states can move oil around pretty easily, but not CA.
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