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    “Bracing”

    Here it comes!!! And then the equivalent of $7 to you and I is removed from their bank statement. End result, they still have more money than they could spend in 10 billion lifetimes and they make more than your lifetime earnings every 3 minutes, just from interest on their wealth. Brace indeed, you fucking goblins.

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    The proposed tax measure, which would require billionaires to pay a one-time tax equal to 5% of their net worth

    Is one time even a tax? Why not recurring

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          Or just make it 99.9999 once every time there’s a new name on the list of eligible payers.

          Nobody deserves that many digits in their name. Literally zero people have ever deserved that.

          They should have never had it, and that should be a worldwide rule.

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      You’re not thinking about the headlines. This looks like a war chest.

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      Recurring would be nice, but they would move away immediately.
      We need to have international regulation that set a minimum wealth tax, so the billionaires can’t escape it.
      Until then it has to be modest like 0.5% to have a chance to work.

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        Recurring would be nice, but they would move away immediately.

        Good. Why would we want people who take vastly more than they contribute to remain in our state? And make no mistake - billionaires cost us more than they contribute and regular taxpayers always foot the bill.

        Just like how we have proved that trickle-down economics does not work, the wealthy will not pack up their entire business operation and move elsewhere to avoid paying a tiny fraction of their wealth back to the state in taxes.

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          Good. Why would we want people who take vastly more than they contribute to remain in our state?

          That’s a good question, but the rich are good at making the poor fight for the scraps. And their riches may come from the whole of USA and even the entire world, so local states fight each others to keep the rich in their state, because their taxes are still often significant even when they pay to little.

          As I mentioned, the best way to stop this is by mandatory international agreement on a wealth tax. But unfortunately such an agreement is not likely. But we should all at least support it.

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        People always say this, but I haven’t seen it play out that way. That was the narrative for NY before Mamdani won as well. It was claimed the wealthy would all flee the city. And then it didn’t happen. It just seems stupid that we keep defeating ourselves before we even attempt it.

        Just pass actual taxes on the wealthy. If they flee, then oh well. What is anyone losing? They already weren’t paying taxes. They are parasites. If parasites leave, that doesn’t seem like a loss.

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          That was the narrative in Ma before the extra tax on income above $2M and it ended up raising even more money than predicted.

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          They won’t move, this is where they make their money. They need us more than we need them

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          Right? Where are they going to go? You can’t take your real estate with you. You can’t pick up culture and move it.

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          I don’t think the billionaires move because of a 1 time 5% wealth tax, depending on the rules, many won’t be able to move in time anyway.
          But if the tax is 5% every year, I’m pretty sure most billionaires would. Even if it’s not all of them.
          But when it’s easy to move not too far away and avoid it many will.

          Remember most billionaires don’t register an income nearly as extreme as their fortune.
          If a billionaire pays 30% tax on $100 mil. income, and most don’t because of deductibles and outright cheating, then that’s $30 mil. in tax.
          I they pay 5% in wealth tax on a fortune of $1 billion, that’s $50 mil. That would mean the wealth tax is higher than their income tax.
          And if they can move almost anywhere else to avoid it they will.

          Also the psychological effect of suddenly introducing a high yearly wealth tax would be worse than starting moderately with 0.5%, which my own government in Denmark has suggested they might, and even that the rich threw a hissy fit over. But start moderately, with 0.5%, then wait a couple of years and increase by 0.25%.

          It’s not that I think this is really fair, I personally think the very rich should pay more for the privilege of enjoying to be rich.
          And the money should go to make conditions better for the poor and middle class.

          I also very much agree with what Mamdani has done. Because they can’t just move away to avoid those taxes on for instance their luxury houses that make a British castle look modest. They can’t just move away and then come visit as they please, they would have to actually sell the property to avoid the tax.

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    I have a bad feeling if goes through it will be extremely easily bypassable like every other tax the ultrawealthy are supposed to be paying

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      As a non-billionaire and closer to a negative-aire who has owned registered business entities costing $150…

      …taxes on entity profits are super easy to bypass. Stupid easy. So I have zero confidence this will ultimately do much of anything, but I hope it maybe moves the needle slightly.

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    If anyone needed any more evidence that this class is totally outright malicious, know that many of them have already spent more money trying to fight this “tax” than the “tax” would’ve cost them.

    They are literally just fucking over the working class for the love of the game.

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      You probably find this exact comment on both sides of the dollar.

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    Give me my money back. Give me my money back, you bitch! I want my money back. And don’t forget to give my back my black t-shirt!

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    “oh m’god , being taxed at the same rate as the commoners…WHERE’S MY GREY POUPON??!!”

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    Now how will they afford to pay their armies of servants living wages?? Jeeves deserves to be paid, too!

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      How does that matter for this ballot proposition?

      EDIT: He‘s on record in opposition but there is no executive veto possibility. In other words if it passes it doesn’t need anyone’s signature to go into effect.