Communism is a stateless, classless society. By definition, this means that there cannot be a “communist country”, or a “communist state”.
Oh wow, not the first time I’ve heard this! Such a blatant example of the no true Scotsman fallacy!
It actually isn’t though. No true Scotsman is about pointing differences in UNRELATED characteristics to falsely reject provided examples. But “communist countries” are a violation of the clearly stated definition itself. Rejecting these examples is not fallacious.
Yes, countries in the eastern block can most definitely be classified as “socialist”. Socialist policies generally center around “workers owning means of production”. Meaning, most capital is owned by the working class.
NOW. What does one even mean by “owned by the working class”? Worker coops? Consumer coops? A singular state, owning capital? Different leftists have different positions on this.
But none of this really has much dirt on the idea of communism. Did the first French Republic after the revolution somehow show that republicanism, or democratic ideals were bad and that we should return to a monarchy? Not really. It was a revolution gone wrong.
Oh, bro, the capitalists did. Bought up everything and scrapped it. One of the reasons the east is where it is today.
The east of where ?
Eden 🤘
Wdym??
I waited two weeks this time to post ragebait (been terribly busy with the farm,work and palworld 1.0). Still my favorite thing that people take a troll post in the shitpost community as a legitimate post and are willing to argue with me.
Ooh! How is the 1.0?
Solid. I’ve been playing the shit out of it. They added a ton of new
PokémonPals, includingAlolanregional variants. Lots of quality of life changes, a story line, dungeon improvements, etc.
Lol I made one of those a couple months ago but I’m not brave enough to post it.
Crosspost this to ml if you’re serious about trolling
I would but they literally have a rule about not having a sense of humor.
Feel free
Oh we are months past the point where I can post in ml.
Same
Well shit
Perhaps you should be the shotposting alt account you want to see in the world…
Communism as practiced so far sucks, and maybe it can’t be done.
Capitalism practiced perfectly sucks for everyone but the filthy rich, eventually. That eventuality happens to be upon us now.
This happens to every world reserve currency because the population constantly vote for more debt. It’s happened to every single one, and you see see it happening today. Everyone keeps voting for more debt and screaming she more access to debt.
A larger percentage of humans have a higher quality of life then any other time in history.
artificial scarcity exists by design
I stick with organic
People literally just assume that to feel better, and quality of life is relative. There were probably some very happy times in the past where people enjoyed a lot more freedom and a lot more stars in the night sky.
That’s a very funny, very ignorant way to think.
One could argue that capitalism only did that because it needed to compete with communism, and that the more that capitalism eliminates its communist competition, the less it seems inclined to care about the working class.
What do you mean?
It wasn’t communist except in name lol
Cope and seethe. Classic line I’ve seen for literally every instance of historically implemented large scale communism.
When in history has a stateless, classless, moneyless society been implemented at large scale?
Almost like its an impossible to achieve strictly idealistic and illogical pursuit. Interesting how thousands of individual communes are able to exist and thrive within capitalist states though.
Which is it? There can’t be a “classic line” for historically implemented large scale communism if large scale communism is impossible to implement. You’re contradicting yourself.
Every time something is labeled communism it’s communism until atrocities happen. Then it wasn’t really implemented. Both of my statements are true. Pigs can fly if you throw them off a cliff. But pigs never had wings so they could never really fly. That’s because the initial statement is based on an impossibility centered around arbitrary vocabulary. Both statements are true.
Nah, that’s nonsense word salad. Either large scale communism is impossible and thus has never been implemented, in which case the “classic line” is 100% true, or it is possible in which case your claim that it’s impossible is wrong.
Either way you seem to have a pretty weak grasp of history and logic, so good luck out there 👍
Lmfao what an embarrassing lack of reading comprehension and critical thinking skills.
It almost suggests it can’t be done!
Almost
If capitalism is so great why did they never made a capitalism 2 ?
Capitalism 2 is just fascism.
It’s almost released, we’re at the late stage.
Fantastic point
Well we’re all finding out how well capitalism works I’d say. Dudes have more money than God and are buying up entire western countries and their politicians.
They did, only it was a little later. By then it had emptied out and you could squat, set up a studio, throw raves and such in prime central locations for free.
Sounds sick
Way to fail to take context into account.
Like the context of where this was posted?
The context is the punchline.
Tell me about it.
The people of the GDR were caged in and cut off of their folk in the very city that just happens to be in west-berlin, so of course people were happy for the iron curtain to fall.
What happened financially, economically and technological with east-germany was a crime (“Treuhand Skandal”) and was the harbinger of the ugly head that is capitalism.
Sounds like I completely understand the context then and continue to hold my opinion.
You probably think the Wall fell because of David Hasselhoff, eh?
Didn’t it?
But they did keep the cute cross walk guys.
Marxism-Leninism is a dead-end.
Indeed. The “vanguard state” is a failed experiment. It inevitably gets into the control of corrupt officials who twist it to their own ends to magnify their own power (thus forming a new upper class of party officials who oppress the working class), and then it becomes self-perpetuating, unwilling to ever give up power and dissolve itself.
Future revolutions should take note and transition directly into a stateless, classless society.
No shit
Remind me which major country was the least affected by the Great Depression. ☭
Might be interesting to know, considering the direction the capitalist economy is taking now.
