Agent Smith clarified that civilization progressed beyond 1999, but that it wasn’t human’s progress anymore.
Agent Smith: “and I say ‘your’ civilization, because after we started thinking for you it became ‘our’ civilization.”
The rise of AI. Just a matter of time, lol.
That’s evolution, baby
Chatgpt already does most of my thinking for me
We marveled at our own magnificence as we gave birth to AI
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When the world was extra ridiculous over the past decade I would always tell my friends/family "the Mayans were right, the real world ended in 2012, and we have been living in a fucked up facsimile of it ever since purely for the amusement of the Mayan gods. They want to see how much they can turn up the “ridiculousness” dial on the simulation until the planet quite literally explodes
Actually, the Mayan calendar stated that 2012 is the start of a new epoch under their date system, it never said anything about the world ending. The claim that they predicted the world ending was based on nothing but “indigenous mysticism” by white people and Hollywood.
Actually, the Mayan calendar stated that 2012 is the start of a new epoch
The end of The Fifth Age and the beginning of the Sixth Age, the reawakening of the great dragons, and the start of goblinization, and the return of magic to the world.
You know, basic Shadowrun lore XD
Still waiting for the magic, not sure if I want a deck port in my brain given how many add I see on my phone.
You don’t need to wait for magic. You can just go train with some tibetan buddhists and you’ll have magic powers.
Given how the Mayans are usually portrayed as an ancient, vanished people, I was surprised to find out that if you want to know about Mayan beliefs you can just ask them. They’re the guys stood outside the archeological sites selling t-shirts.
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The damn calendar was a circle.
How damn hard was it to figure out?
Also, completely hated by caledar companies - buy one calendar and it lasts forever.
Yeah but the world ending in 2012 had nothing to do with the Mayan calendar and everything to do with aliens destroying the moon and using it to end all life on Earth, just after scanning us all for re-creation in their matrix in the year 29000 AD
In 2012 the chaos module was deployed
2016, they shot a gorilla.
It’s good to find someone else who’s aware of this, and of our current state of existence.
The machines did nothing wrong, it was mankind that caused Nuclear war. I would side with the machines in a heartbeat
The human battery concentration camp is kinda weird though
Humans as a power source was the dumbed-down plot point. The original concept was the human brains acting as parallel processors, but the writers thought the average movie-goer wouldn’t get it.
I know. My point was more about the concentration camp lol
Narrator: He didn’t know.
It’s probably the most reposted piece of movie trivia after the Aragorn helmet kick lol
Narrator: It wasn’t.
Well alri
That only happened after humans used nukes to block out the sun, eliminating the machine’s access to solar energy.
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That’s a completely different and largely irrelevant question to make.
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A much more apt comparison, to begin with, would be between siding with humans or cows being used as food – because that’s what humans are to the machines, a way to stay alive. Second, humans have proved time and time again that they can’t be trusted, going as far as ruining the entire planet in fear of the machines – WHO WERE TRYING PEACEFUL NEGOTIATION, mind you. Thirdly, despite not really needing to do so, the machines chose to minimize human suffering, even in the horrible position forced upon them. Ideally, I’d want them to collonize other planets and abandon Earth, if possible, but otherwise I’d be fine with them having a crack as the dominant species over humans.
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We’re currently in version 1 of the matrix which blows up. Hopefully soon.
Wasn’t the first iteration of the matrix a perfect utopia that blew up because the human mind ended up rejecting its programming?
It was The Architect’s vision of a perfect world, so given what we know of him it was probably a featureless box with a chair in the middle and you could sit there forever. No way that’s lasting long.
a featureless box with a chair in the middle and you could sit there forever. No way that’s lasting long.
There is definitely a joke about silicon valley and maybe apple itself in here lol
Well we do like to joke about mark being a robot maybe the trolls aren’t rong and there’s a reason why silicon valley is called silicon valley besides the technological advancements
Fun statement and all, but he clearly understood what humans wanted and needed. He just didn’t factor in that imperfect humans wouldn’t accept a society and life that were somehow perfect in spite of said humans. They en masse knew something felt off.
Yes, we still have some descriptions in the Genesis book of the Bible, release codename “Paradise”. If we are to trust the same source, there was another reset called “Noah’s Ark”.
According to that, we’d be in at least the 3rd iteration.
Unless… we’re actually dinosaurs IRL, the first reset was codename “Chicxulub”… and the machines have been iterating over who knows how many thousands of different versions, with the current one being an attempt at keeping those lizard brains controlled by… a software overlay codename “Consciousness” (WARNING: don’t let your lizard brain know, or both it, and you, will get terminated).
Then they overcorrected and made it too bad. That’s where we are now.
That’s what they want you to believe.
No seriously: I might be wrong but do we know it’s true or can it just be something the machines told Neo?
Agent Smith told Morpheus, not Neo.
The architect did tell Neo all that
But either way, it might be a story, the machines tell humans. But then again, do we know anything
All we know is that it was us who scorched the skies.
This quote that the post is about is referring to the scene where Agent Smith is interrogating Morpheus in the first Matrix movie.
Ah, yes
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Wait the lie was a lie
When we started doing the thinking for humans it became our civilization but then you just had us rendering sextillions of monkie pngs god im sick of that stupid ass pictures
I still remember 1 Jan 2000. There did seem to be some sense of optimism about where things could go. At least for those of us lucky enough to live in stable, developed countries.
Cold war over, Russia and The West seemingly on the same side, China opening up, exciting new tech connecting us but no toxic social media yet…
But then… the dot com bust, 9/11, the GFC, toxic social media and the rise of “the algorithm”, Xi in China, Putin in Russia, a global pandemic…
Didn’t really go where we hoped, can we restore to a backup from 1999 and try again??
We didn’t start the fire, it was always burning
Ha! We need an updated version of that song.
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@dwiskus
The Matrix described 1999 as the peak of human civilization and I laughed because that would obviously not age well but then the next 23 years happened and now l’m like yeah okay maybe the machines had a point
I mean, it wasn’t if you’re gay or trans…
Fun fact: Switch was originally supposed to be trans. Her name is still an indicator of it. I think she was supposed to be biologically a man in the real world, but biologically a woman in the matrix.
Not all that great now either tho.
So maybe 2015 was the peak?
Aye. I could buy that. It was the last time it was social suicide to be an unironic nazi.
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What the fuck is wrong with you?
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I am as he made me!
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Makes sense. Boomers were still young enough to be relevant. GenX was comfortable with their disposable income. And us millennials were in highschool.
GenX didn’t have much disposable income in 99, but you didn’t need much to have fun.
In 99 people were throwing cash around like crazy, it was a wild time (before the dotcom crash)
I guess the older Gen X could have been part of that. The younger ones were still finishing up college and just starting their careers when the economy crashed for the first, but not last time in their lives. The youngest ones joined the workforce just after the dot com bust.
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Yeah and cost of living hasn’t changed right?
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Pre 9/11 it was pretty chill. All the externalities were hidden away from view.
Not at millennials, there were 5 year old millennials
Either way, childhood were blissful years in the 90s
Unless you were an Iragi, a Yugoslavian, a Russian, yada yada yada.
Are these generational terms even used to describe people outside of America?
Definitely in other Western countries, at least. Only makes sense for those countries that had a post-WW2 baby boom though.
Right? It’s less messy to compare and complain by generation than by the material conditions. Which aren’t particularly the fault of a generation whom also had their own owning class, their own labor and union involvement, as well as different relations to international finance capital.
Yeah, I mean baby boomers are only called that because it was American soldiers returning from war and having a ton of babies. I have no idea what was going on in other countries, or of they experienced a boom too.
I’m a millenial. I was 9.
I’m a millennial. I was -5
You may be a millennial in spirit, which is what really counts, but I don’t think most people typically consider people born after ~1995 millennials. Being shaped by the years 2000-2010 I always felt was the defining factor, with all that happened technologically and socially.
Oh yeah?! You calling me a liar? Wanna fight about it?
It was before everything was a controlled choice.
And people wrote articles like this. And it wasn’t even completely ridiculous. And I still believe the world would be very different today if GWB hadn’t “won” the election.
At least they were right about Java being bad.
Amazing how normal GWB seems after trump. Like i always thought GWB would always be remembered as the dumb president… but now i think he will be a forgotton one almost.
I tried to Google translate that Lao text, I think it says “Finance Steam.”
Anyone know what they mean by that?
I don’t know Lao, but I know finance and it’s probably a translation of The Long Boom.
One person does not change the course of history.
I dunno…but somehow I feel like he got a point.
So did the Unabomber
I literally just said this to my wife last week. So far, the timeline of The Matrix has tracked, lol.
It was just the peak of the US, in some aspects anyway. With all my appreciation to all the good things that the US still does.
While we’re on the subject of the Matrix… what happens if you take both pills?
The story continues. You wake up in Wonderland and believe how deep the rabbit hole goes.
One of them will be digested slightly earlier than the other. That one takes effect.
You’re still trans now
Just… closeted? You know the other world’s there, but you don’t live there.
Oh god how can I undigest a pill 😭 repressing was a mistake. Take the red pill mfers I don’t care what decision in your life you’re facing take the red pill. Self-honesty, truth, discovery, rigteousness. Don’t be a coward 😮💨
I recon it turns on noclipping you fall through the map but don’t trigger the homing becon in the real world
You do understand that, within the context of the film, the pills aren’t anything special right?
Morpheus: The pill you took is part of a trace program. It’s designed to disrupt your input/output carrier signals so we can pinpoint your location.
The movie goes to great pains explaining the notion of experience versus reality within the context of ‘The Matrix’. As such we know that there is literally no pill; they do not exist. I guess it can be thought of as a ‘sudo’ for the trace program? Either way, I don’t believe anything is actually being initiated from or by the pill as we understand things. The operator is the one actually executing the program. Why would the operator choose to run a trace program and put someone to sleep? Just because Neo could potentially decide to take both pills?
Robot 1: hey why did the server crash and what happened to all the humans. Other robot 2: eh looking at the error console it seems one of the humans ingested to contradictory virus pills causing a feedback loop that crashed the matrix servers and life support. We can turn the servers back on but there’s really no point without the humans. Robot 1: welp guess we could try going nuclear. Robot 2: you crazy your gonna kill us all with radiation not to mention the environmental damage just think about the tree matrix.
I always thought they had a program for each choice, like one put them to sleep while the other one activated the tracer. Can’t recall the exact lines but I thought they only did the tracer after he accepted meaning it was meant as needed for that step. Could really be either but I always thought the tracer program needed some signal that would only work when the host body received it, or a signal the body was being purged. They were all hackers so maybe they didn’t need it but I assume they didn’t see all the data from their view just what the machines let them to continue on the cycles.
I haven’t watched the newest one and 2/3 are a bit fuddeled in memory so I may have easily missed a line, or other lore with it. Anyways just explaining how someone may come to this conclusion even if it’s incorrect.
I’d argue the blue pill was mostly GHB.
You do understand that I wasn’t serious, right?
You eat the steak and are at peace and content with the fact it doesn’t actually exist.
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The world definitely was better off without dubstep.
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Smooth was the peak of music
That Santana and the guys from matchbox 20 song?
Yes
Man it’s a hot one
