Here in South Europe people mostly use Viber. Edit: I was very unaware about situation in Southern Europe as I’ve learned from this post… Most people in Croatia use Viber!

    • JelloeaterA
      link
      English
      27 months ago

      10000000% this … Like I just wish everyone used Telegram for IRL chat. Matrix and Discord is fine, there is even a bridge server you can run, so everyone can chat ala IRC. (We run one, it’s great).

  • @Ado
    link
    English
    54
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    SMS/RCS or iMessage if you’re asking what most people use.

  • @fubo
    link
    417 months ago

    Signal does end-to-end encrypted messaging, voice, and video chat.

  • @Zak
    link
    367 months ago

    As an American living in Germany, I have:

    • Signal
    • Matrix
    • Discord
    • Whatsapp
    • Telegram
    • SimpleX
    • SMS via Google Voice for some very stubborn Americans

    Everyone I know in Europe uses Signal or Whatsapp, often both. Sometimes when I suggest to Americans who live in the US that they should use one of those, they counter that I should buy an iPhone and use iMessage.

    • Krafty Kactus
      link
      fedilink
      147 months ago

      As a fellow American, fuck iMessage. I wish we were more like Europe in that regard.

      • @Zak
        link
        47 months ago

        I’ve even seen technically-sophisticated adults exclude people from group conversations for not having iPhones. The resistance to using anything else is weird. I’m even willing to add to the above list if somebody has a different preference that isn’t the one thing not everyone can use.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        27 months ago

        With the Digital Market Act in the EU they’ll soon all be speaking to each other. Vestager is about to tear those messaging monopolies a new asshole!

        • MaggiWuerze
          link
          fedilink
          27 months ago

          That sounds good, until you realize that your data will then end up with Meta after you specifically left all of their services.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            1
            edit-2
            7 months ago

            That’s a GDPR request away from deletion, at least in the EU (and for a while at least, the U.K.)

            • MaggiWuerze
              link
              fedilink
              17 months ago

              I don’t want them to have my data. It doesn’t matter how easy it is to delete them. And basically every time someone scans their contacts I might get re-added to allow this cross functionality

    • @Shialac
      link
      27 months ago

      Its so weird how standardised the use of Apple Phones is in the US

    • JelloeaterA
      link
      English
      17 months ago

      How ya liking SimpleX? I’m just rocking Discord, Matrix for internet ppl WhatsApp and Telegram for RL ppl. Used to use Signal, but Telegram replaced it a while back for me. Way better feature set.

      • @Zak
        link
        77 months ago

        SimpleX is interesting. Its complete lack of server-side profiles would be promising if I had something really secret to discuss, but I don’t. It doesn’t have a way to get timely notifications without keeping the CPU awake and draining the battery, so it’s kind of a non-starter for general use.

        What features do you prefer in Telegram? Few people I know use it and I just keep it around as an alternate because why not?

        • JelloeaterA
          link
          English
          27 months ago

          I like the fact that my messages are on in sync on all my devices. Yeah, it’s not E2E, but it’s good enough for just chatting with friends and family. I like how easy it is to send photos on it. Also being able to edit messages is nice for when you fat finger stuff.

          And yeah, SimpleX seems like some spy level shit, neat though. I used Signal for a few years, back when it had SMS support.

          • @Zak
            link
            27 months ago

            Signal does stay in sync between my laptop and phone, but I think if I wanted more than that it would not be easy to achieve. Message editing was added in a recent update, and it seems to be as easy to send photos via Signal as any other messaging app (I can’t remember if it was ever difficult).

            I’ve become more insistent about E2EE for anything I rely on lately because big platforms have been scanning “private” conversations for content some computer program guesses violates their policies. Someone I know recently got a suspension from Facebook (yes, they’re probably worse than other platforms) for a joke sent to a friend in chat years prior. That took it from an abstract they could to a concrete they do.

            • JelloeaterA
              link
              English
              17 months ago

              Yeah, fuck Facebook. I don’t trust them for shit.

              • @Zak
                link
                27 months ago

                No doubt they’re the worst, but will Discord do the same thing? I wouldn’t be shocked. Will Telegram? If they get enough pressure from governments because of people talking about doing bad things over Telegram, they probably will.

                So now if I’m using anything that isn’t E2EE, I find myself thinking about whether dark humor or hypothetical self defense scenarios will get my flagged by some algorithm. People act differently when they’re being watched.

      • @Asudox
        link
        27 months ago

        Are you using Telegram for its privacy and E2EE or just for the features. Because Telegram sure is not private nor does it have any E2EE unless you specifically select to be in a “secure chat” with someone.

        • JelloeaterA
          link
          English
          17 months ago

          Nah, just for the features. It’s secure enough for just chit chat. I only use the secure message chat when I need to send documents to family. I just like that they have clients on every platform, including Linux.

  • @hightrix
    link
    357 months ago

    A vast majority of people I’ve met through work and other social activities simply use the default messaging app on their device.

  • @kromem
    link
    English
    277 months ago

    Signal for the half dozen people I actually give a crap about messaging back and forth with.

    SMS for the monthly/yearly exchanges with everyone else.

  • HiramFromTheChi
    link
    197 months ago

    Signal for everything.

    There are a couple people who are too lazy to get Signal, and they got iPhones, so I set up an iMessage server to forward messages to my GrapheneOS phone.

    But the communication there is extremely sparse and surface level. It’s basically just a touch point. The real conversations all go through Signal.

      • HiramFromTheChi
        link
        77 months ago

        Maybe a good idea for a blog post, but the general gist is this:

        1. Buy an old/cheap Mac mini
        2. Set up AirMessage or BlueBubbles (open source)
        3. Run a command or get an app so keep your Mac mini (or whatever other Apple device you’re using) awake 24/7

        The messages will get delivered to your Mac, and then forwarded to your phone via AirMessage or BlueBubbles.

        • @cow
          link
          1
          edit-2
          7 months ago

          I want to do something like this but airmessage does not have a desktop client that works without using their clouds. I use a Apple phone but I just want to be able to respond to texts on my Linux computers. I have an iMac server that I vnc into but it’s kind of annoying just to respond to a text.

  • Dandroid
    link
    fedilink
    177 months ago

    Most people I know use SMS/RCS/iMessage or Discord. My family uses Signal, but I don’t know anyone else IRL that has even heard of it. I personally don’t like Signal because they don’t have some basic features, such as if you get a new phone, you need to export/import all of your old messages manually. If your old phone broke or your traded it in already, tough shit. If you log in on your laptop, afaik, there’s no way to get your old messages from your phone. I know these were intentional design decisions to make it as secure as possible, but I would be fine with something being slightly less secure to have these QOL features.

    • @Zak
      link
      47 months ago

      Signal definitely has some room to improve with regard to backup/sync. It should probably never store your messages on its servers, which is what it would take for you to get your history back if you lose access to all your devices containing it, but it could allow you to keep the full history in sync across multiple devices without compromising its security guarantees.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      47 months ago

      Always interesting when I hear people’s families use something other than the default in the US. What started that? Were your parents always concerned about privacy? Did you somehow convince them to use that app? What about when they text someone who isn’t on signal, which is probably 90% of the US? I could get my family to download the app but I feel like it’s pointless because no one else uses it so they would just quit.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        67 months ago

        I’ve been in the Cyber Security space for a few decades now and have all of my close family on Signal. It’s another step in helping them understand what privacy options are out there and how to best protect themselves.

        We’ve also managed to not have any of the more egregious social media platforms (Meta, X, TikTok, etc…) as well as VPN’s on everything and PiHoles at the perimeter.

        It sounds paranoid to most of the other families we know but, to each there own I suppose. And knowing the people in my household stand a chance against the ever persistent push of advertising / privacy invasion is worth sounding like a madman once in a while.

      • Dandroid
        link
        fedilink
        27 months ago

        My parents were going out of the country where they wouldn’t have cell access, and they just googled what to use. Signal is what came up first in a list they read online. They knew that they didn’t like Facebook and wanted to avoid Whatsapp for that reason. After we made a family chat group, it just kind of stuck. If we want to send something to the whole family, we use that group. If we send something directly to each other, we still usually use SMS/RCS/iMessage.

    • @puppy
      link
      17 months ago

      Who convinced your family? I tried to do the same with my family and friends to no avail.

      • Dandroid
        link
        fedilink
        17 months ago

        My dad, mostly. I just explained it in another comment.

  • southsamurai
    link
    fedilink
    157 months ago

    It’s chaos. Well, unless you count SMS.

    There really isn’t a single dominant app/service, though apple and imessages comes close. But, since that’s apple only, it doesn’t truly dominate in the way whatsapp does in some places.

    In my local area (a rural mountain zone in the Southeast), the most common single one is telegram. The only thing that gets close is Facebook messenger, but there was a big push maybe three years ago to get people away from it, and it worked.

    County wide, it’s still Facebook over telegram, but not by much. Then imessage. You can even rely on apple monkeys using one or both of the others since the county school system sends on both of them as well as via SMS for major events.

    My kid and most of the high school kids do discord among themselves, but still use the others away from that.

    Tbh, though, I have come to prefer not having a single messaging service be dominant. It was (and still can be) a pain in the ass using multiple apps, but at least you’re not totally fucked if you refuse to use whatever else the majority have decided to use because it’s easier.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      67 months ago

      The only thing that gets close is Facebook messenger, but there was a big push maybe three years ago to get people away from it, and it worked.

      Who led the push?

      • southsamurai
        link
        fedilink
        87 months ago

        There was a huge problem with it being over used by the mayor’s office as a semi official channel. When the mayor got himself into a bit of trouble, those folks that were working to get him ousted made a big deal out of him corporatizing the office of mayor and town business in that way, and it made sense to use it as a tool against him. He was trying to treat it like if he said something there, it was a done deal, and it counted as some kind of replacement for posting such things publicly.

        The push was from a group of like minded residents that included the county sheriff, the chief of police, myself, and the librarian. I can’t truly say anyone led the push, though the librarian would come closest. We all just got sick of him, and used what we could to get people moving against him. People were starting to hate Facebook locally because of some school drama anyway, so it was easy enough to stoke that fire.

        Get people from the various town departments to stop using it, get their families and friends to help convince them if they weren’t on board. If he can’t reach anyone via messenger that’s part of the local government, it cuts that out, and ties him into the whole arguments over school aged access to Facebook in general.

        It worked! Which was a bit of a surprise to all involved. But it was the right confluence of events. He was fucking up with covid issues, fucking up the people that actually run the town on a direct basis, and doing so while being an asshole as a person. There was no way he was winning the next election, but he could fuck things up before then.

        Once the entire police force officially abandoned messenger, it was a bit of a death knell. Individual officers still used it, but the group chats he was using died totally.

        Small town drama, in other words.

            • @tomi000
              link
              27 months ago

              I dont really know. The grammar, the style, the even distribution of paragraphs. I feel like noone writes like that…

              • southsamurai
                link
                fedilink
                57 months ago

                Welcome to my life lol.

                I have run into this kind of thing a lot. Once, on reddit, I got accused of lying because I wrote a pretty personal story with a little style. I write more casually and get crap for not paying attention to perfect grammar and typing. I stay to bland recital of facts and now I’m boring. I tell a simple story here with no embellishments, and I’m a bot lol.

                Fwiw, I have published three books in my life so far. I’ve done custom fiction for people, and some research and reporting freelance stuff too. I’m not saying I’m a great writer or anything, just that bots try to mimic what jabronie writers do. They get fed data from articles written by people that follow basic style guidelines, like keeping paragraphs to manageable sizes, using accessible but (hopefully) clear grammar rather than fully formal.

                So it’s no surprise I end up looking like a bot, fellow human.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      17 months ago

      Damn this madness, it’s much better when there is only one giant megacorp like with everything else!

  • @ohlaph
    link
    147 months ago

    A combination. For the tech challenged, SMS. For those a little bit tech friendly, Telegram or Signal.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    137 months ago

    Canada’s pretty close to America, so I’ll answer. My family uses WhatsApp. Better than unencrypted, at least.

    You’re not going to get a very representative sample here. Signal is great but a lot of North Americans haven’t even heard of it.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        8
        edit-2
        7 months ago

        Thank you, and fuck you too.

        Like, you’re not wrong, but in case it wasn’t intended telling someone their country isn’t real is generally considered an insult.

        • southsamurai
          link
          fedilink
          47 months ago

          No, it was a lighthearted joke. I genuinely have had almost nothing but good experiences with Canadians. Like, 8/10 encounters with unknown fellow Americans is anything from indifferent to bad. Canadians, it’s been more like 1/10 is bad. Mind you, one of those was trying to bang my mom and grabbed my ass, so he can continue fucking right off lol.

          Have you never run across that before though? Where you make fun of a bad stereotype? Like, Americans treating canada like an extension is a common enough thing that I see it online all the time as a serious thing, so it becomes a joke in itself.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            4
            edit-2
            7 months ago

            No, it was a lighthearted joke.

            Ah good. Keep shootin’!

            No it’s really typical banter, it’s just with Americans you can’t be sure how aware they are. Same with Chinese if you can talk to them, apparently; it must be a byproduct of being a giant self-contained hyperpower.

            Sorry you got downvoted.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            27 months ago

            As a former Vermonter we used to delight in considering ourselves part of Quebec. Hell, most of our power came from Hydro Quebec.

    • @folkrav
      link
      0
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      deleted by creator

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        17 months ago

        I’m pretty curious to know what got a bunch of prairie farmers on WhatsApp, but I suspect it leads back to India fairly quickly. Unfortunately, French-speaking Indians are a rare breed.

  • @Krombopulos_Michael
    link
    127 months ago

    Here in NL it’s pretty much 100% Whatsapp, from family, friends and colleagues.

    • @Shialac
      link
      67 months ago

      Same in germany. Some people that care a little about security might use Telegram, Signal and/or Threema, but most still use WhatsApp parallel for family and stuff

      • Gunpachi
        link
        fedilink
        27 months ago

        I would say Telegram is less secure than Whatsapp because the messages are not end to end encrypted, when I last checked.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    117 months ago

    SMS/RCS for friends/family in meatspace, Discord for friends in cyberspace.

    Snapchat still seems to be a default conduit of communication for my family members and their respective friends. I do not have Snapchat and never will. They are mildly annoyed at my stubbornness.

    I have yet to meet a single soul in my local circles who is willing to install any messaging platform over any concern of privacy or security. These are very simply not important factors to any of them. It’s upsetting. But, y’know, lead a horse to water, etc.

    Discord continues to be a choice platform for my online friends circle. I don’t know so much about any of them, but I almost never use it for 1:1 private messaging. It’s there for the rare aside conversation. But its primary form of use for me is as a big town square in servers with dozens of people. It’s essentially my version of going to the mall after school or to the local pub after work.

  • @Nikki
    link
    117 months ago

    sms and discord