• Zorque
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    2311 months ago

    Algebra existed long before Isaac Newton.

    • Nougat
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      1211 months ago

      Ah yes, Mr. Albert Gebra, I remember him well.

      • @niktemadur
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        I thought it was Algernon Bracamontes of Aragon.

        Also yes, it was Dimitri Maglev who invented maglev train technology.

      • @hansl
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        111 months ago

        It was a rainy Saturday and the local farmers were in and about when he told me about those darned letters.

    • @[email protected]
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      411 months ago

      Pythagoras died a ‘thirdgin’ because of this. /s

      I.e. you don’t even need algebra to use letters.

      • @EatYouWell
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        211 months ago

        The funny part is that his theorem had already been discovered by an ancient civilization. I want to say the sumarians, but honestly that’s the only one I’m familiar with, so I could be wrong.

    • VulKendov
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      You can’t even blame Newton for calculus, he refused to publish his papers about it. Leibniz is the guy you’re looking for.

      But everyone remembers Newton cause he’s the guy who got bonked on the head with an apple and invented gravity or somthin.

    • @hansl
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      711 months ago

      And then the Hebrew letters were peering through the window, Javert style.

    • @ThatWeirdGuy1001
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      311 months ago

      I graduated from a vocational school for machining.

      Which requires a great deal of algebra.

      I was failing algebra but passing machining.

  • Chill Dude 69
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    511 months ago

    I always thought the cover to Ben Harper’s album “Fight for your Mind” was a good representation about how I felt, when they started forcing me to integrate letters and numbers, in that way:

  • @[email protected]
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    511 months ago

    Meme transcription: A man tapping his forehead. Top text: Infinite number of numbers. Bottom text: Only 26 letters.

    • @[email protected]
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      You have 10 numbers (or cyphers/digits) and 26 letters (mileage varies by language). You can build infinite sequences with these.

      It’s not that hard, is it?

      Edit: stupid typo. It used to say I’d, not it’s. (Scribble typing, autocorrect and shit proofreading lead to funny things)

          • @samus12345
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            411 months ago

            Judging by their comment, yes.

          • @[email protected]
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            311 months ago

            If you read the comment that you wrote that i was replying to, you’ll see I was riffing on your typo

            • @[email protected]
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              111 months ago

              Ah, I missed that (and the typo obviously). I usually ‘type’ by tracing my fingers across the keyboard on mobile. This method is 97% correct, 2% incorrect ,and 1% hilarious or embarrassing.

              I need to do a better job proofreading and you could do a better job pointing out the typos (so even slow people like me can catch on).

          • @[email protected]
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            111 months ago

            Not numbers. Numbers != Digits. In base 10, there are 10 digits, which can be used to represent infinite numbers, like 11

            • @[email protected]
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              Well, according to the dictionary and Wikipedia (which I both consulted before posting) the word number applies to both 11 and 1. Since that was not good enough for me I added the words cyphers and digits to bring the point across.

              Please explain how you missed that / why you pretended to?

              • @[email protected]
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                Huh? I didn’t miss it, that line is exactly why I’m even having this discussion with you

                You have 10 numbers (or cyphers/digits)

                I’ll say it again, because I think you missed it, numbers are not cyphers or digits, and the terms can’t be used interchangeably unless you can only count to 9. Since you brought it up, the first 3 lines on the numbers Wikipedia page:

                A number is a mathematical object used to count, measure, and label. The original examples are the natural numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, and so forth.[1] Numbers can be represented in language with number words.

                By its definition, there are infinite natural numbers, but all types of numbers are infinite in quantity. When you say “number”, you seem to be thinking of what Wikipedia calls “number words” or “numerals”, or the terms “digits” or “cyphers” that you brought up. Those last four terms are components of language, they can represent numbers, but in the context you provided (“You have 10 ____”), you really shouldn’t have used the word numbers.

                TL;DR, digits are to numbers as letters are to words. There are 10 digits (in base 10), and 26 letters (in English). There are infinite numbers, and there might as well be infinite words

                • @[email protected]
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                  111 months ago

                  Interesting. That’s not what I get, especially when I read past that sentence in the article or consult other sources.

                  Commonly they can be used interchangeably whether you like it or not. Depending on audience you might need to differentiate. Given the context of the post and the thread we’re in I’m going to use common language.

                  What motivates your interest in this? Are you a native speaker?

              • @TootSweet
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                111 months ago

                Dear Diary,

                Today I saw the silliest internet argument.

  • DudeBoy
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    011 months ago

    When the math is just words and symbols you know you’ve gone too far. It’s probably time to graduate and teach.