In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

  • @[email protected]
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    3614 days ago

    It’s my understanding that a lot of Gen-Z men backed Trump as well. Can’t say I understand the appeal he has to the younger crowd.

      • @werefreeatlast
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        413 days ago

        This is of the people who voted. I wouldn’t be surprised if the non voting population was a significant number.

        • @disguy_ovahea
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          613 days ago

          That’s a fair point. 18-24 year olds only accounted for 17% of the vote. Many of them sat out.

        • FlashMobOfOne
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          213 days ago

          Absolutely, tens of millions easily.

          That’s what happens when, no matter who gets elected, your life gets worse. You decide not to miss out on a badly-needed day’s pay in order to vote for someone who treats you like dog poo under their boot.

    • FlashMobOfOne
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      The appeal was that Harris represented a status quo that has people working 2-3 jobs for the privilege of being unable to afford living in the US, and for Gen Z’ers, it also meant a status quo that has them permanently indebted.

      And she spent two months insisting that people should be joyful about it. I said it back in June. Trump could win because he doesn’t have to lie about how hard Biden’s presidency has affected the middle class and the poor, and people who don’t like him won’t care about his social policies because he will represent the candidate of change.

      Also, don’t come at me. I voted Green in a deep red state.

      • @Hackworth
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        1313 days ago

        I’m not here to come at you, but do you really think Biden is the reason times are hard? When they managed to get $170,000,000,000 of student debt forgiven, and the Republicans blocked an additional $430,000,000,000, that didn’t stick with people?

        • FlashMobOfOne
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          Yes, I do.

          Biden has made hundreds of millions appear out of thin air for war, and very little appear out of thin air for American suffering. I agree with you that the limited debt cancellation was a huge thing, and I’m glad he did it. I personally know someone who had $200,000 forgiven, and I’m grateful for that.

          But it’s undeniable that Democrats didn’t follow through on their mandate for change under Biden.

          • @Hackworth
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            913 days ago

            I feel like I need to point out that student loan forgiveness was in the hundreds of billions and was the most direct thing they could do to actually help longterm… since medical reform is apparently a non-starter per Obama’s efforts. Climate change will continue to make everything worse, but I guess we can try to artificially prop things up to delay and worsen externalities coming home to roost. /shrug

          • @[email protected]
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            913 days ago

            Biden has made hundreds of millions appear out of thin air for war

            Has he, or has he made hundreds of millions worth of 30 year old explosives and drones disappear? This is genuinely why we lost. People read a headline like “Biden sends multi-million dollar aid package to [foreign country]” and think he sent someone over with a fucking duffel bag full of hundred dollar bills. I see the same complaints about space exploration. It’s depressing.

    • Ogmios
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      14 days ago

      Can’t say I understand the appeal he has to the younger crowd

      Perhaps some introspection is in order. If feminists can’t figure out how to coexist with others, without turning everything into a battle, then they’re ultimately going to prove to the world that they have no business at all being anywhere near power. Frankly, women have been given a great deal of autonomy in western civilization recently, and have set themselves to the task of burning everything down. It’s not at all a good look, and how the younger generation sees you should be a wake up call.

      • @magiccupcake
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        4914 days ago

        Feminists are not the one aggressively turning men into this. It’s toxic masculinity types like Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, and Joe Rogan.

        • Ogmios
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          Keep doubling down. I’m sure you’ve almost got the formula right.

          • @[email protected]
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            3014 days ago

            The scary feminists are turning men into douchebags not the notable douchebags with a platform spewing hate, sure buddy.

          • @[email protected]
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            2714 days ago

            Look inward my dude. You have some really fucked up ideas about women. Women are just people like you or me and deserve full rights including to their body. If you can’t accept that you don’t see women as fully human and you are, to be technical, an asshole.

      • partial_accumen
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        If feminists can’t figure out how to coexist with others, without turning everything into a battle, then they’re ultimately going to prove to the world that they have no business at all being anywhere near power.

        If thats your logic, when are men going to apologize for WWI and WWII? How about an apology for the Holomodor? Are these the evidence you’re using to show that men deserve to be in power?

        Frankly, women have been given a great deal of autonomy in western civilization recently, and have set themselves to the task of burning everything down.

        Oh? Which part of men’s bodies are women given legal power to control?

        BTW, I’m a dude, I’m just not deluded enough to think that my genitals make me smarter that people with other genitals.

        • @JayleneSlide
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          Am cis-male. And I guarantee you my genitals absolutely make me way dumber than other genital types. 😆 I could fill a novel with data points of my genitally-enabled stupidity.

      • @tburkhol
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        1814 days ago

        Autonomy is not “given.”

        • Ogmios
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          It is when you’re still so deep inside the system mentally that you require products to facilitate your lifestyle. If you want to know how to be free without relying upon society to grant you that privilege, you should look into this cool guy from Roman times named Jesus.

          • NaibofTabr
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            1714 days ago

            you should look into this cool guy from Roman times named Jesus

            Look I never do this, but… 🤮

            And seriously… if you’re trying to be a “good Christian witness”… this is not the way.

            • Ogmios
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              Not even really Christian, but he still provides a great example of what it actually means to live in this world. Too many people want freedom, but don’t want to give up the luxuries that others provide for them. Frankly a lot of Christians don’t get that part of the message either.

          • @Olhonestjim
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            212 days ago

            Yeah, Jesus would send you lot straight to hell.

      • @TrickDacy
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        914 days ago

        Lol I tagged you “mad about WoKe games” so it’s not surprising that here you are going off about feminists. Practically no feminist has issues with respectful male individuals. So we can speculate where you got the idea that they’re looking for trouble… Gee I wonder

      • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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        213 days ago

        western civilization

        Dogwhistling fash is dogwhistling