• @enbyecho
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    4410 hours ago

    Has Lemmy just been completely flooded with CCP apologists now?

    RedNote ToS includes provisions that require you to post “correct views on history, nationality, state, or culture”.

    I guess if you believe Taiwan should be “returned” to the mainland, Uhghurs deserve to be “re-educated” and enslaved, and that China is the natural and rightful pre-eminant global power… you’re gonna be fine.

    • @[email protected]
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      34 hours ago

      Lmao yes, have you not been spending much time on here? The second biggest instance is run by tankies

      • @enbyecho
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        13 hours ago

        Let’s just say I roll with the stricter, more traditional definition of “tankie” not the current definition which is much closer to “people I disagree with”

        Yes, I’ll take my downvote now sir.

    • @kiagam
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      419 hours ago

      I took it as “don’t pretend we don’t have censorship too”

      • @enbyecho
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        189 hours ago

        Saying “there is censorship here” in no way implies “there is not censorship there”

      • @FMT99
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        108 hours ago

        It’s false equivalence though, although with the election of shadow president Musk it’s getting a bit more hazy.

        Even so, one is an (admittedly hugely influential) private company and the other is the actual single-party government dictating what speech is allowed.

        • @UnderpantsWeevil
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          one is an (admittedly hugely influential) private company and the other is the actual single-party government

          The US has been governed by public-private partnerships for centuries. Trying to draw a line between the industry administrators that get promoted into every crevice of public sector bureaucracy and the elected politicians who depart office to serve as lobbyists and board members of private firms is a fool’s errand.

          Do we celebrate Chris Dodd the Senator and denounce Chris Dodd the chairman of and chief lobbyist for the MPAA? Do we applaud Hank Paulson the Treasury Secretary and denounce Hank Paulson the CEO of Goldman Sachs?

          Americans seem to have no trouble drawing a straight line between Singapore-incorporated ByteDance and the Chinese Communist Party. Why can’t they see the connection between Howard Lutnick or Linda McMahon or Betsy DeVos or Elaine Chao and the businesses they own and operate?

          • @FMT99
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            21 hour ago

            Hey you’ll get no argument from me. I’m on Lemmy for a reason. But it’s still not the same as just straight up “the government decides what is thoughtcrime”

        • sunzu2
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          When all of the companies do it and they do as they are told by daddy Sam… What is the difference.

          The only difference I see is that they don’t send you to gulag in US unless you really make some dear leader life uncomfortable.

          Americans still do a lot of self censorship. Anything Israel related gets modded into shot on normie socials.

          Luigi is prolly best example… They are suppressing that across all media, fake news and social… How is this different from shepoohs bullshit?

          • @FMT99
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            11 hour ago

            I’m not defending the bad things our government does. But do we see mass arrests of people wearing Luigi shirts? Will you be denied a passport as a result of posting some critical message on social media? I had friends, very average unimportant people, who were detained for days at a Chinese airport for having a social media history showing support for Taiwan. It’s not the same thing.

            • sunzu2
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              Us has largest prison population in the world?

              Capitalist regimes targets people differently but the function of the oppression is the same.

    • @GreenKnight23
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      brought to you by the same users that made:

      • you’re a Nazi because you don’t support Palestine
      • Harris is evil, vote 3rd party
      • I’d rather vote for Jill Stein than vote for Trump
      • Harris is just as bad as Trump
      • If you support Harris you want to kill Palestinian babies you Nazi
      • Democrats and Republicans are the same
      • If China is bad, America is worse
      • American censorship is worse than Chinese censorship
      • TikTok was banned because it was a threat to the American surveillance state
      • @[email protected]
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        209 hours ago

        you’re a Nazi because you don’t support Palestine

        Legit. Supporting genocide kinda invalidates your other points.

        • @UnderpantsWeevil
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          Okay, but if you recognize genocide in Palestine, that’s just a vote for Donald Trump who is a Nazi.

          That means recognizing genocide makes you a Nazi. Only by ignoring genocide, shutting up about 3rd parties, admitting China is worse, venerating Democrats as the only good party worthy of your vote, and apologizing for any kind of environmentalism that might cost us the election can you truly stand up for the people of Palestine.

          And since Harris didn’t win, we know you broke these rules. The only reason you’d do that is if you secretly conspired to hand Donald Trump the election, because you’re a Nazi.

        • @enbyecho
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          Legit. Supporting genocide kinda invalidates your other points.

          Let’s flip that around. If you support genocide right here at home because you were concerned about genocide abroad, that kinda invalidates your other points.

          I dunno maybe some folks can’t have more than one thought in their head at a time.

          Edit: I see there are at least a few people who think it’s perfectly ok to usher in a new era of trans genocide in America so they can loudly proclaim their Very Important concern about Palestinian genocide. I’m glad you feel strongly about that issue, as you should. I’m just not too keen on it coming at the cost of many trans live right here when you really could have been concerned about both at the same time.

          • @[email protected]
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            68 hours ago

            I think a real genocide, which has been called out by the International Criminal Court, trumps your imaginary, fantasy genocide.

            • AreaSIX
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              24 hours ago

              Comparing whatever it is they think Trump will do to trans people, to the near complete annihilation of a nation while killing 100 plus thousand people on live stream, is a wild thing to do. Bananas.

            • @enbyecho
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              Oh look! A genocide pissing contest!

    • @[email protected]
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      Pretty sure Lemmy has always been full of people who support freedom of speech, open internet, internationalism, anti-censorship, etc.

      It’s got nothing to do with “apologizing” for some state targeted by this wacko genocidal empire.

    • @UnderpantsWeevil
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      RedNote ToS includes provisions that require you to post “correct views on history, nationality, state, or culture”.

      Damn that private company implementing Terms of Service to limit discourse to historically accurate topics of conversation. Now I’ll never get Wuhan Lableak blurbs and weird religious propaganda injected into my video feed.

      I guess if you believe Taiwan should be “returned” to the mainland, Uhghurs deserve to be “re-educated” and enslaved, and that China is the natural and rightful pre-eminant global power…

      I mean, what gives the US the right to encircle Taiwan with its Navy? Why were we so fervent in defending the right of Afghani teenager girls to obtain an education, but so cavalier in denying it to Uighur girls threatened by the same Islamic radicalism just on the other side of the Afghan/China border? How do we have US Senators and CENTCOM chiefs debating the best method for severing Chinese exports from the international markets, while asserting the threat of Chinese global supremacy?

      It’s all upsidedown and backwards in America-World. If you want to talk about Chinese global hegemony, consider the methods at their disposal. To quote Dr Lubinda Haabazoka, Director of the University of Zambia Graduate School of Business and former President of the Economics Association of Zambia

      Every time China visits we get a hospital, every time Britain visits we get a lecture.

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s “correct views on history, nationality, state, or culture” as according to the CCP. Imagine an American company with that clause, but those “correct views” were as according to the US government. You would be against that, yeah? Imagine getting your comment removed because you question the US’s authority

      • @enbyecho
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        07 hours ago

        Found the China zealot. Do you get paid or is this just for the love of the party?

        • @UnderpantsWeevil
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          45 hours ago

          I stack my Renminbi in one closet and my SorosBux in another.

          • @enbyecho
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            14 hours ago

            But what do you do with the ZuckBucks?

            • @UnderpantsWeevil
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              14 hours ago

              I keep them in my back pocke… glances down at non-existent legs OH NO!

              • @enbyecho
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                13 hours ago

                Sound like you don’t have a leg to stand on. Maybe MuskBucks are the answer here.

    • sunzu2
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      RedNote ToS includes provisions that require you to post "correct views on history, nationality, state, or culture

      Tankies got all their canned responses with links to do their every chance they get. I wonder if there is a central repository for this

      • @[email protected]
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        34 hours ago

        I think they just post the same stuff over and over. It’s like quoting Bible verses - they’re trying to prove it to themselves.

    • @riodoro1
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      08 hours ago

      Mostly no (I hope), we’re just laughing at americans literally not being able to read anything soaked with propaganda and switching from one source to another.

      Ccp apologists can suck Winnies dick

      • @enbyecho
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        38 hours ago

        we’re just laughing at americans literally not being able to read anything soaked with propaganda

        All Americans? Everything they read?