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    7 hours ago

    AI is not complicated (hard but solvable with time and effort), it’s complex(easy but numerous and their interactions make it hard)?

    sigmoid(aX+b) is not that complicated

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      7 hours ago

      That wasn‘t even the argument. The argument is that AI is a resource waste; it uses too much power and water for what is a shit return.

      Who cares how complicated it is.

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          Its already here, it’s called the average Redditor.

          This isn’t a joke. You already know what a low power LLM is, its a 40W human brain with high school level knowledge and a confident human tone writing on Reddit. But not the entire brain, only the natural language and superficial knowledge part… Meaning having the human is better anyway.

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            3 hours ago

            high school level knowledge

            I love your optimism. These are the people who add an S to mass nouns like ‘email’, and who pluralize with an apostrophe. A successful high-school education isn’t being shown, there, at least in terms of literacy (admittedly, we are represented by how we write).

            Is it correlative, in that many Redditors live in a country where 54% of them do not communicate above a 6th-grade level?

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          6 hours ago

          That’s a massive assumption on your part. Exactly how do you propose that the entire architecture of LLM’s be restructured to not be the massive resource hog desperately seeking a profit that it is? Mind you, it’s shit now and you’re basing your argument on a hypothetical “maybe”, like maybe you’ll win a massive lottery payout tomorrow.

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            4 hours ago

            You make a compelling argument, it will never be achieved. I am convinced. Not one human is capable, nor are one thousand humans. It is unsurmountable mountain.

            It is the year 5000. Aliens look at the wreckage of earth. They see what little remains of our meager existence. The goal that haunted humanity for all eternity, a doomed plan from the start, only ever resulting in certain failure? making chatbots use as much energy as a gaming rig. It never happened. It was… impossible.

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                3 hours ago

                Okay, since its obviously hyperbole that it isnt possible, its a potential outcome so lets return to my original question (deemed a massive assumption on my part by you):

                once it no longer needs massive amounts of expensive resources, what then?

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                  2 hours ago

                  So copypasting your question does what…? If you can’t be bothered to think through my answer and think of a different question, then go re-read the answer I already gave you.

                  • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    1 hour ago

                    Okay, its called a hypothetical, which you ignored. I therefore ignored your bad faith attempt at diverting the discussion at hand. Hypothetically, what happens when it is energy efficient? Its not impossible. I am only saying, sure do whatever you gotta do to regulate ai now, but it will eventually get there, and then what?