KSIC’s $175 million bond was collateralized by the $175,304,075.95 Trump had placed in a Charles Schwab bank account and which was specifically pledged to KSIC.
Yeah it’s always some shit like that. Start playing with numbers in the millions and it becomes real easy to turn that into extra money just by parking it in the right place.
There’s a reason self-made millionaires all agree that the first million is the hardest. Making money is much easier when you’re living on interest and dividends from your existing cash. At a certain point, things reach a critical mass and you begin growing wealth without even trying, simply because interest, stocks, dividends, etc are growing faster than you can reasonably spend it.
Not giving up all your cash or selling assets for a bond is the best financial decision for anyone in most cases.
What if it was you, the bond was 10k.
You only have stocks and if you sell them you’d have short term capital gains tax.
You’re confident you’re going to win on appeal (not that I think Trump will win).
If you sell your stocks you’re out thousands in taxes and if the prices move up, you’ll have even less shares after.
If someone else posts the bond you don’t suffer any taxes unless you lose.
Cash also has value. It gives you options. Giving it all up for a bond is also bad.
This isn’t a Trump or millionaire thing. It’s an everyone thing.
Edit: the problem with Trump is no one believed he a actually has the money for the bond (especially the 440mil one prior) except for property which has been grossly over valued. And no one trusts he would pay if he loses because he has a habit of not laying paying bills
Giving up liquid cash is also bad as it limits your options.
He can’t use this money for anything else now as he had to collateralize it. He’s still able to earn interest as its his account, but he can’t use it for the election for example. And no one would lend him money against it because he might lose it.
If he’d been a trustworthy person, he’d still have 100% control of that cash.
For historical reference. A Schwab account containing securities as also used as the collateral given to Chubb Group for the bond for the E Jean Carroll law suit appeal. Interestingly, Chubb refused to offer a bond for this other case needing the $175 million.
I think the key takeaway there though is that Trump controls that account. KSIC can take control of that account within 24 hours, but nothing is stopping Trump from just draining that account if he loses his appeal.
Huh. Is the only reason he didn’t post his own bond because he wanted it to earn interest in the interim? Fucking millionaires and their money games.
Yeah it’s always some shit like that. Start playing with numbers in the millions and it becomes real easy to turn that into extra money just by parking it in the right place.
Being rich sounds easy as fuck.
There’s a reason self-made millionaires all agree that the first million is the hardest. Making money is much easier when you’re living on interest and dividends from your existing cash. At a certain point, things reach a critical mass and you begin growing wealth without even trying, simply because interest, stocks, dividends, etc are growing faster than you can reasonably spend it.
Being rich is a lot easier than getting rich.
Unless you’re born into it.
When you’ve got $1k in the bank, and you need 100% of that to live, you can’t really save.
When you’ve got 1 million in a proper savings account, you’re getting enough a year to technically live off of through just interest.
Properly invest that 1 million and you can comfortably live off the interest alone, and even compound that interest.
I think it is once you’re there, assuming that you’re not the “working wealthy”. At that point, you just have to not screw up in a big way.
Not giving up all your cash or selling assets for a bond is the best financial decision for anyone in most cases.
What if it was you, the bond was 10k.
You only have stocks and if you sell them you’d have short term capital gains tax.
You’re confident you’re going to win on appeal (not that I think Trump will win).
If you sell your stocks you’re out thousands in taxes and if the prices move up, you’ll have even less shares after.
If someone else posts the bond you don’t suffer any taxes unless you lose.
Cash also has value. It gives you options. Giving it all up for a bond is also bad.
This isn’t a Trump or millionaire thing. It’s an everyone thing.
Edit: the problem with Trump is no one believed he a actually has the money for the bond (especially the 440mil one prior) except for property which has been grossly over valued. And no one trusts he would pay if he loses because he has a habit of not laying paying bills
Yes, but the article states that the bond was collateralized by $175 MM in cash—so it must have already been cash or liquidated anyway.
Giving up liquid cash is also bad as it limits your options.
He can’t use this money for anything else now as he had to collateralize it. He’s still able to earn interest as its his account, but he can’t use it for the election for example. And no one would lend him money against it because he might lose it.
If he’d been a trustworthy person, he’d still have 100% control of that cash.
It’s not a good situation to be in for anyone.
He also can’t touch that Schwab account so it’s just the same as putting up the bond himself
Can’t or legally can’t?
I imagine since it’s his account he might be able to somehow run off with it, but in so doing would be breaking the law?
That’s also my guess. May be monitored.
And we all know how harshly he gets punished for breaking the law.
I agree, Trump is definitely a millionaire
For historical reference. A Schwab account containing securities as also used as the collateral given to Chubb Group for the bond for the E Jean Carroll law suit appeal. Interestingly, Chubb refused to offer a bond for this other case needing the $175 million.
I think the key takeaway there though is that Trump controls that account. KSIC can take control of that account within 24 hours, but nothing is stopping Trump from just draining that account if he loses his appeal.
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So, Russian money in a bank account with Trumps name on it?
I wonder if they’ll trace the source of those funds before accepting it for anything.