• CADmonkey
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    31
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    So many who think bombs are the way to go. They are not.

    None of the following is a good idea, either.

    Fun facts I’ve learned while working for a living:

    1.) A bottle of coca-cola, or any sugary drink, will ruin a concrete pour.

    2.) Diesel equipment doesn’t like water, gasoline, or eggs in the tank.

    3.) There are two ends of a telephone line. One end is at the building. The other end is in a box nearby that nobody is watching.

    4.) A battered hard hat, old steel toe boots, a dirty yellow safety vest, and an air of confidence will turn you invisible.

    • braxy29
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      somewhere online is a copy of a pamphlet that was made available to resistance folks during ww2, full of similar fun facts.

      edit - the simple sabotage field manual

      • theneverfox@pawb.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        1 year ago

        I’d wonder, and maybe ask, if they need help, so I’d remember them. And people who believe they’re handy might come up to chat to see what’s being worked on

        But someone in a PPE and a clipboard? Could be a worker, could be an assistant running an errand, could be a safety inspector, could be the big boss - it’s a nice mix of “that person is probably here for a reason” and “that person might be a headache with a penchant for power trips”. I’m not going to approach or remember that person

        Best part - if someone with a ladder or a tool belt is looking around or hanging out somewhere, they look like they’re lost. If someone with a clipboard is looking around, they’re probably inspecting, and if they’re opening doors or looking around somewhere unexpected, they’re probably just looking for a quiet place to fill out paperwork or make a call - easy excuse with no loose threads

  • AngryCommieKender
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    30
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    That’s not a silly, goofy time. It’s a tense, reactive, and hostile time and environment.

    Don’t listen to this meme. It takes a lot of planning and execution to blow up any target, regardless if you’re the US Military, or some freedom fighting militia.

  • nifty
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    32
    arrow-down
    10
    ·
    1 year ago

    Assuming you succeed, will you then get your makeup, glasses, clothes, and computer? Or internet? Or electricity? Or running water?

    • kewwwiOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      82
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      we get a silly goofy time. did you even read my post?

    • Gabu
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      44
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      “Hurr durr, slaver companies like nestlé are essential for the production of electricity”

      Do capitalist bootlickers even think?

    • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      18
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yes you will, because you sabotage effectively, in industries that are not actually important or only produce worthless junk or companies that try to kill off smaller ones.

      • nifty
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        In the off chance you’re semi-serious, it’s hard to have a compete systems level understanding of anything, so you can’t actually predict the unknown unknown consequences. It’s like trying to strategically projectile vomit, you’ll get most of that into the desired location but some of that acidic chum is def landing somewhere you didn’t intend lol

    • Yeather@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      This is why you target industry not linked to these but are destructive, like Nestle bottling plants.

    • Sunfoil
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      No, that’s the idea. But that’s also why we see very little eco terrorism. No one can handle losing what we have. Even if it is necessary.

  • Kowowow@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    1 year ago

    I know you would need to be totally anonymous to get away with it but it’s it really worth it if you can’t do it dressed as a supervillain and leave a calling card?

    • rockSlayer
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Your sabotage will be your calling card. Since ecotage has fallen out of favor, people will think “oh snap, the pipeline welder stuck again. I bet they could weld 10 miles of pipeline control valves shut in a single night”

      • Kowowow@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        Not sure about the valves but I sure wouldn’t want to heat a pipeline standing right next to it

        • wowbagger@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          I prefer sabotage that doesn’t have the potential to ignite thousands of acres of adjacent woodland. Somewhat counterproductive at that point.

    • CADmonkey
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      So long as the costume covers your face, and the calling card is sufficiently misleading, why not?

  • m0darn@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    Reminds me of a comment I’d previously written:

    Don’t make threats (also don’t kill people, it’s usually wrong). It is too easy for Power to amplify and harness sincere backlash against your movement and whip it into counter progress outrage.

    At a consultation stage don’t threaten lives and infrastructure. Ask how the company will protect against sabotage and vandalism.

    Are they building infrastructure that is vulnerable to ecoterrorists? If an ecoterrorist were to attack their pipeline with a high powered hunting rifle would it be an ecological disaster?

    If a saboteur spread diamond grit abrasives on the rail track the coal cars travels on, would that cause damage, a derailment, or just increase maintenence costs? What about grease?

    If seepage from the tailings pond was spread onto the plant manager’s lawn, would he let his kids play there?

  • JustMy2c@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Hmmmm mm but I don’t live in an imperialist country. If I do that the big companies will just leave for ever…

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    8
    ·
    1 year ago

    Yeah, let’s sabotage industries and infrastructure and have loads of innocent people die as a result, all in de name of sticking it to corporations!

    God this is dumb

      • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago
        1. Sure, but that is what it’s saying

        2. No, you can’t. You start sabotaging infrastructure, people die. Destroy the internet and as a result people may no longer receive medication in time, they die. Same for electricity. No matter what you do, no matter how you do it, you will end up hurting people, which is what people like you seem to keep forgetting: infrastructure is not there for big companies to make money, it’s there so that everybody can have a life to begin with.

      • Zeon
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago
        1. Yeah, but the meme is trying to be one of those memes where people will take it literally.
        2. As we’ve seen with riots already, it’s not only corporations that get hurt, it’s mom and pop shops too. Also, people will die, you could do it without someone dying, but the chances are pretty low.
          • Zeon
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            Large scale industrial sabotage = Rioting

              • Zeon
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                Motivations are different between rioting and sabotage, but still, they’re both destructive. Also, sabotage will pretty much escalate into riots anyway, so they’re basically the same. Not hard to see that really.

                • trashgirlfriend
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  this man has made so many logic leaps he isn’t even in the same local cluster anymore