• @Rayspekt
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    602 months ago

    Is it just me or are 60 million a ridiculously small price for that whole dataset?

    • bobburger
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      To be fair it’s a pretty terrible dataset. The AI is just going to say “this” to every question you ask

        • Adderbox76
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          112 months ago

          This presumes that Reddit is populated by so-called experts answering questions and posting in those subs.

          But the vast overwhelming truth is that most people pretending to be experts are just regurgitating the answers they heard from another reddit post, and so on, and so on.

          You might as well just train your AI on the “confidently incorrect” sub and call it a day.

          • @[email protected]
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            It’s always an eye-opener when you look at an ELI5 thread where you’re actually knowledgeable about the topic

        • @captainlezbian
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          32 months ago

          My heel turn as a mod back in the day was having automod remove lmgtfy links

          • @brygphilomena
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            It was a weird day when I recently went to teach someone about lmgtfy and found the website dead. There are clones, but the original was so simple and great.

    • Ebby
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      172 months ago

      Perhaps, but not worth buying if you can’t make profit or keep it from your competition.

      60M is for over almost 20 years of data, but once it’s ingested, google will only want new content. Next year, it’ll be more like 3M if the dataset isn’t poisoned by bots or the AI fad hasn’t collapsed. Reddit will struggle with finances again and users will suffer. At least that’s my prediction.

      • @[email protected]
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        72 months ago

        Spez has already grifted his money out of the initial stock pump so it literally doesn’t matter. Reddit could shut down tomorrow and he’d be happy as a clam.

        • Ebby
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          Yeah, what a load. Though now they can boot his arse and save.

          Edited to remove number.

          • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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            I doubt he’s getting 120M per year. I think that big compensation package was a 1 time deal. That’s more than Satya Nadella makes.

            • Ebby
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              You’re right. Total compensation was $193M for 2023 but that was a lot of stock too. It may have been one time like you said now that they went public. Hopefully enough to retire haha.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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        the AI fad

        LOL. Do you realize that makes you sound like Boomers talking about the internet in the late 90’s and early 00’s?

        • @[email protected]
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          72 months ago

          It currently looks very much like a bubble. After the dot com bubble, the internet didn’t go away, but most companies died off and all the stupid monetisation went bankrupt.

          We may be seeing something similar

        • Ebby
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          72 months ago

          Haha! Wow I guess so. I’ll keep some shelf space available in the geezer museum next to 3D TV’s, deep fakes, fidget spinners, and my pogs. :D

    • @[email protected]
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      I wonder if Google’s unlimited legal budget plays a role. Not a lawyer, so probably way off here…

      But, for example, reddit’s success in part depends on Google ingesting their data — reddit shows up in Google searches all the time, which can only happen if Google uses reddit’s content. So reddit telling Google “you can’t use our content” doesn’t work, and they need to say something like, “you can use our content for search results but you can’t consume it as training data.”

      This is a pretty straightforward statement/request/demand, but one could imagine Google lawyers maliciously complying and throwing their hands up dramatically, claiming “well we use some amount of AI in our search results, so if we can’t use your content for AI training then we can’t risk using it for search results.” Which would, I imagine, really, really hurt reddit (no Google results would be catastrophic I suspect).

      So, perhaps the “low” 60M figure is just Google using their leverage.

      Or not. As a random person on the Internet, I can say I’m probably not contributing anything meaningful here…

    • @[email protected]
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      62 months ago

      How quickly you forget that half of it is just “I also choose this guy’s wife” and “the narwhal bacon’s at midnight”

    • @[email protected]
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      42 months ago

      I’m personally curious whether Reddit actually has any ability to protect that database. I don’t remember Reddit TOS, but usually those things give them license to use and copy the data, maybe even to sell it, but not actually the copyright on it. So if someone made a Reddit scraper and copied the comments, wouldn’t only the actual commenter be able to sue?

      $60M may be reflecting that, in that it’s more a convenience fee to shield Google against individual Redditors going after them than something that Reddit itself could actually sue over.

    • @trolololol
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      Considering it’s all full of Nazis and bots, and if you get to filter all of them out you’re left with reposts and low quality memes followed by comments that represent the hostile side of each of us… I’d say anything over $5 is a good deal for spez.

      Now, I hope Google uses this data exclusively for detecting inappropriate answers. Can you imagine it giving answers based on the endless threads i of " I’m not your mate, bro; I’m not your bro, dude…".

    • @PoliticalAgitator
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      It’s more than they were making from third party apps, hence the ridiculous API fees.

  • ThyTTY
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    372 months ago

    Can’t wait to see an AI chatbot in my Google searches that behaves like a typical redditor.

    • @[email protected]
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      “Hey Google AI, could you help me find a way to do _____?”

      “Why the hell would you want that? Are you stupid? There’s like 15 better ways to accomplish what I think your peanut brain is trying to accomplish.”

      “… nevermind Google.”

    • @8ender
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      32 months ago

      I mean one of the most popular search types on Google is <topic + Reddit> so not much would change

    • @QuadratureSurfer
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      Just wait till the LLM starts “singing” randomly to you.

    • @trolololol
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      – Hey Google/reddit, what does xxxxxx mean?

      –Wtf is people so lazy, Google it yourself it’s only 5 seconds!

      –But but, you are Google, are you not?

      –Buahaha , haha!

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    Google: “I’m looking to make an AI that’s incredibly opinionated, confidently incorrect, and prone to circlejerk behaviors.”

    Spez: “I mean OpenAI pretty much did that already, but if you want to pay me to recreate that then I got you.”

    • @[email protected]
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      One thing that doesn’t seem to get brought up is the AI porn angle. Gonewild is pretty big on reddit still. A lot of OnlyFans creators, and general perverts (respect). Reddit wants to commodify this content, so those people are selling the images of their bodies so AI can make porn of random strangers. Kinda fucked when you think about it.

  • @[email protected]
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    232 months ago

    Steve Huffman looks increasingly douchier and shittier with every passing photo.

    What a damn chode. Fuck that guy.

  • Endorkend
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    And this is how Skynet was born.

    That one Microsoft Twitter bot turned into a full blown Nazi in just one day.

    I can’t even imagine how fucked up and depraved one trained on Reddit data will get.

  • @stanleytweedle
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    I deleted my comment history after the API exodus. I’m sure they could dig it up if they wanted but at least they’ll have to click like 3 more buttons if they want to train AI on my nonsense.

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      Before:

      SELECT * FROM `comments` WHERE is_deleted=0;
      

      After:

      SELECT * FROM `comments`;
      
  • @garbagebagel
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    172 months ago

    Can someone point me the way of that bot or whatever that changes all your old Reddit posts before deleting them? I thought I had it saved somewhere but I can’t find it now and have no idea what it’s called.

    • @[email protected]
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      They keep copies of posts because people who mass edited their posts saw them reverted or have people reply still as if they were not edited.

      • @BassTurd
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        I had read that with some people, is was a delay from their server instance between read/write and in the end the changes did end up sticking, but I don’t know if that was true. A lot of people were mass editing at the same time, and since editing isn’t something that happens super frequently, it might have less priority in the stack and caused backups.

        • @Grimy
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          They change it on their website but the data that’s collected and sold isn’t changed.

          It still devalues their google search though but also makes it harder to scrap data for free and ups the value of what they are selling.

          • @BassTurd
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            For sure. They definitely have change records for everything. It would be borderline negligent if they didn’t.

  • ivanafterall
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    112 months ago

    As part of the deal, spez will personally train the AI Jailbait Model.