Has anyone bought from here before? Looking to upgrade my NAS drives.

  • chiisana
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    1062 months ago

    Approx 35k power on hours. Tested with 0 errors, 0 bad sectors, 0 defects. SMART details intact.

    That’s about 4 years of power on time. Considering they’re enterprise grade equipment, they should still be good for many years to come, but it is worth taking into consideration.

    I’ve bought from these guys before, packaging was super professional. Card board box with special designed drive holders made of foam; each drive is also individually packed with anti-static bags and silica packs.

    Highly recommend.

    • @roofuskit
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      112 months ago

      All my server drives come to me with these many hours and truck on for many years.

      • chiisana
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        82 months ago

        This is pretty standard for enterprise equipments — comes with some amount of years of warranty, enterprises depreciate the cost over that many years and sell them as/before the warranty expires to get whatever value they can get (as far as books concerned, they’re already depreciated to $0 anyway).

    • @[email protected]
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      12 months ago

      Came here to ask about the hours. Some quick searching looked like 5 years is an average time to failure, but that might have been for lower-grade hardware?

      • chiisana
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        52 months ago

        Backblaze has drives with very similar models in service, has an annualized failure rate of less than 1% on average, and have been in service for 5 years. The average age will continue to rise as usage time continues to rack up.

      • chiisana
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        12 months ago

        Pretty sure that’s the usual preventive wear clicking sound that’s just part of newer drives’ design…?

  • @VelociCatTurd
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    772 months ago

    They’re generally highly regarded.

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        I too like posting cryptic, non-detailed complaints with minimal to no explanation, logic, or rationale for the express intent to sow confusion and chaos while simultaneously standing for nothing

        /s

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          On Reddit, wallstreetbets used to call everything “retarded” and they’ve stopped and moved to “regarded” as a way of “almost” saying an offensive word.

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              It was bad, and the funny part is that they were using Retarded as a slur too much and had it taken away after complaints from civil rights watch groups, as disabilities are a protected class, but the proponents would try to claim they were using it as a term of endearment in the ultimate bad faith argument.

      • @yokonzo
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        142 months ago

        Dude what are you even trying to say here

  • @[email protected]
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    512 months ago

    Reposting as top level comment also: these are PWDIS drives: if you’re not using them somewhere with sata 3.2/3.3, you need to use an adapter for the power plug, or some tape, to block pins 1-3 (3.3v) as supplying it to these causes them to reset. Might be worth doing the taping anyway, if you’re using an enclosure or cage (where you can’t use the adapters) Just be aware.

    • KNova
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      212 months ago

      When I bought some of these earlier this year, the re-seller included an adapter that blocked those pins to prevent the reset issue. Didn’t know what they were for at first and almost tossed them. (I should have read the included slip of paper)

      • @[email protected]
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        492 months ago

        As someone who regularly ships items with a slip of paper meant to be read, this was infuriating to read. Lmao

        • KNova
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          52 months ago

          Classic overconfidence - “I have installed a hard drive before, what could they possibly be trying to tell me on that paper?”

          I learned and won’t make that mistake again… until I do

        • @[email protected]
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          02 months ago

          Tape it to the item.
          Witg a big fat warning symbol.

          Anything beyond that was done in purpose

          • @[email protected]
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            32 months ago

            When you’re shipping one item, sure… kinda. When you’re shipping five, it doesn’t make sense to tape the exact same thing to every single one. Especially if the paper is bigger than the item.

            We typically affix it to the invoice and package so it’s seen first thing. That’s the best solution we’ve come up with.

    • @[email protected]
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      How do I know if I’m using sata 3.2/3.3 vs something else?

      I have one of these in the 8 TB variant that I use for backup purposes, and I plug it into one of those USB docks, like this one. I have not applied any tape or adaptors and it seems to be working fine.

    • @ashok36
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      12 months ago

      I’ve done the tape thing before. It was a little bit of a pain but not that hard.

  • @proper
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    442 months ago

    the drives I’ve purchased from them in the past have been great considering they’re used server parts.

    • @givesomefucks
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      considering they’re used server parts.

      That really should be in the title…

      I dunno, I’m one of those people who never stops using a drive until it breaks, and they never really break anymore. Oldest in my current PC is probably 20 year old HDD.

      So yeah, these probably are fine and will still last a long time. But for like $20 more you don’t have to worry about losing the data on it.

      Edit:

      Apparently prices just haven’t changed in half a decade or longer? I knew prices went up for COVID, assumed they went back down at some point.

        • @givesomefucks
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          72 months ago

          Yeah, that’s crazy.

          I guess all those $100 deals were used too.

          So I guess at least used prices went down?

          But I remember years ago a shuckable 12tb for like $120-140 on sale wasnt unusual on buildapcsales.

      • @[email protected]
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        62 months ago

        They’re much cheaper than $20 off a new drive. I bought a 14TB WD server drive from them within the last year for less than it cost me to get an 8TB Elements/Easystore on sale back in 2018. It was easily 50% of the new price for a similar drive.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 months ago

        Not to sound snarky or anything, but since when do prices go down? If people were willing to pay the inflated price, there’s no incentive for them not to make that the new standard.

      • JustEnoughDucks
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        A new 12 TB drive is literally 300€ now.

        I don’t think it was EVER 100€ for a 12TB, certainly not helium filled. Prices during covid went up, but not even near 3x for hard dives.

    • @EdibleFriend
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      82 months ago

      This post is like fate. Just yesterday I came to the conclusion my HDD in my aging PC is going screwy.

      • @proper
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        92 months ago

        These guys have deals all the time, I see them pop up on slickdeals a lot

        • @EdibleFriend
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          62 months ago

          I was already planning to just drive to microcenter like it was 2017 or something.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 months ago

      I had a similar issue with instruments once, because Thomann is cheaper by a factor of 10 to USA equivalents.

      • LifeBandit666
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        22 months ago

        Thomann crew checking in! Bought my first “real” guitar from them and she’s still my favourite despite being given a Les Paul by Bowling For Soup this year. I really should play that baby

    • @Mazuu
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      12 months ago

      I’ve used vykingship, a shipping forwarder, before to ship from US to EU. it basically gives you an us address to ship things to and they will ship it to you.

      I’ve found their rates are usually cheaper than direct from the store.

      Of course customs and duty charges will still apply.

  • @[email protected]
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    202 months ago

    I just bought two of their 12TB for $100 each and they were the manufactured recertified. One had like 8 hours run time and the second had like 36 hours so brand new for the lifetime of a hard drive. So far no issues. Also beware these drives are very loud.

    • Solar Bear
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      232 months ago

      Refurbished drives get their SMART data reset during the process, they absolutely had more than that originally.

      • @Potatos_are_not_friends
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        142 months ago

        Oh wow I did not know that.

        That’s absolutely terrifying. Like resetting the speedometer for used cars.

          • yeehaw
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            72 months ago

            Hang on, you don’t typically buy your cars at 15Km/h?

          • Spectranox
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            32 months ago

            You’d better hope that be pretty close to zero before attempting repairs.

        • @ashok36
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          92 months ago

          That’s why you run a couple rounds of preclear to stress them and then run a fresh smart report.

        • @[email protected]
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          52 months ago

          Amazon reseller for xbox drives was getting 10 year old dirty crusty drives and swapping the HD controller to a more recent one. So SMART report looked like a young drive. Xbox casing had a sticker or warranty void. So me being me wondered and opened it to find a dirty ass old drive inside. i called Amazon and initially they said it is outside of return window and warranty…But i explained it doesn’t matter when I detected the fraud it is still fraud. So they gave me my money back

          • @[email protected]
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            12 months ago

            This has got me concerned, wondering how do you tell it’s old if the controller is replaced? Are there serials or dates on the other parts or just obvious wear?

            • @[email protected]
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              22 months ago

              For the ones I had, the corrosion of the metal and stained labels was the give away (looked like they had been out on an autoshop repair bench), but each part had its own label dates. HDD was way older date than the controller board.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 months ago

        I think there is a difference on Refurbished drives and Manufactured recertified. On server part deals the prices were different and manufactured recertified being a little more expensive for the same drive. So I assumed the drives were send back from a data center and tested again but they cant be spelled as new.

      • yeehaw
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        12 months ago

        Don’t use raid 5. It hasn’t been recommended for like a decade. Use 6 at minimum if you value your data.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 months ago

        Yeah I think that’s normal , I moved my NAS to a closet because of how loud the drives are. I wasn’t even able to sleep with that noise lol

  • @daniskarma
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    192 months ago

    I really wish we had a service like this on Europe.

    I know they ship to Europe. But shipping costs are prohibitive for small buys.

    • @BillDaCatt
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      These are used drives that have about 35K hours (4 years) of power on time.
      Good quality drives to be sure, but maybe not as reliable now as they once were.

      • @amorpheus
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        162 months ago

        It just means they’ve survived the first part of the bathtub curve. To me that’s a bonus.

    • @dogma11
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      132 months ago

      Refurbished drive. I’ve had 4 white label drives running for a number of years without issue, planning on eventually getting 12 more and maxing out my servers.
      Unfortunately that’s years down the line :(

    • @[email protected]
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      72 months ago

      2nd catch, behind the power on time: PWDIS drives: if you’re not using them somewhere with sata 3.2/3.3, you need to use an adapter for the power plug, or some tape, to block pins 1-3 (3.3v) as supplying it to these causes them to reset. Might be worth doing the taping anyway, if you’re using an enclosure or cage (where you can’t use the adapters)

      • @ChapulinColorado
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        92 months ago

        They are also enterprise drives which consume slightly more power and more importantly generate more noise/clicking sounds on average when compared to a consumer drive. Depending on where you were planning to install them, it might not be the best option.

        • @[email protected]
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          42 months ago

          I have a similar one, different seller and possibly submodel, but also a refurb HGST 12T enterprise drive. It sounds like I left a soda on my desk most of the time, subtly popping and ticking.

        • Corgana
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          22 months ago

          They generate a LOT of noise. Not a dealbreaker for most but something to be aware of for sure.

  • @TropicalDingdong
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    172 months ago

    I * think * those were the brand I bought?

    Regardless, 80 for 12 TB is a steal.

      • @TropicalDingdong
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        42 months ago

        No issues what’s so ever. Have them in a four drivE QNAS. I was a bit concerned about them being cheaper drives initially but after I got them installed I literally haven’t thought about them again in terms of reliability.

        0 complaints and they seem to be doing about as well as some more expensive drives might be.

          • @TropicalDingdong
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            12 months ago

            I mean, I don’t know your use case, but as a self-hoster/ research scientist, I think my usage is much much. And I do rely on mine for business, as my wife and I both rely on it for hosting our data, which for me is large geospatial datasets, and when I’m doing large compute runs, there are many many read writes. We also store a large amount of music/ videos for streaming and running a jelly fin server. Thats been fine as well. I think since in our case we don’t have a ton of people hitting the server at once, its just never as stressed as it might be in a corporate/ multi user environment.

            • @[email protected]
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              12 months ago

              Thank you, I also know it’s a lottery and hopefully I get a nice unit.

              I’m going to use it solo as a home server to sync, store and read data. And eventually as a streaming server for jelly fin too, mostly for myself only too.

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    Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

    Fewer Letters More Letters
    NAS Network-Attached Storage
    RAID Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage
    SSD Solid State Drive mass storage

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    • yeehaw
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      52 months ago

      If the deal is too good to be true, it probably is.

      • @[email protected]
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        02 months ago

        6gb sas is regularly found for 30-40$. 80$ for 12gb sounds reasonnable. And you’ll save 50% power per GB

    • @[email protected]
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      32 months ago

      I dunno, 80 for a Hitachi seems a little low, but not too good.

      Not sure I’d buy one used tho.

  • Davel23
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    112 months ago

    I have six 14TB drives in my NAS from serverpartdeals. Never had a problem with any of them.

      • Kata1yst
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        Never ask a man his pay, a woman her weight, or a data horder the contents of their stash.

        Jk. Mostly.

        I have a similar-ish set up to @Davel23 , I have a couple of cool use cases.

        • I seed the last 5 arch and opensuse (a few different flavors) ISOs at all times

        • I run an ArchiveBot for archive.org

        • I scan nontrivial mail (the paper kind) and store it in docspell for later OCR searches, tax purposes etc.

        • I help keep Sci-Hub healthy

        • I host several services for de-googling, including Nextcloud, Blocky, Immich, and Searxng

        • I run Navidrome, that has mostly (and hopefully will soon completely) replace Spotify for my family.

        • I run Plex (hoping to move to Jellyfin sometime, but there’s inertial resistance to that) that has completely replaced Disney streaming, Netflix streaming, etc for me and my extended family.

        • I host backups for my family and close friends with an S3 and WebDAV backup target

        I run 4x14TB, 2x8TB, 2x4TB, all from serverpartsdeals, in a ZFS RAID10 with two 1TB cache dives, so half of the spinning rust usable at ~35TB, and right now I’m at 62% utilization. I usually expand at about 85%

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    Do HDDs noticably degrade when powered off? I’m thinking about getting one of these for cold storage backups. Also, how much of an impact does repeated power cycling have on lifespan?

    • @force
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      HDDs are your best option for long-term storage. Every storage mechanism fails eventually but HDDs are convenient, last long, and have excellent data recovery.

    • @Gabu
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      They do, but not so much that your average home user would notice without having more than enough time to fix the problem.

  • @Gabu
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    92 months ago

    Read it as 120TB at first and my eyes nearly jumped out of their sockets.

    • @arin
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      72 months ago

      12 TB for $80 is a deal for me! My 8tb was around $200 to $300 in 2021

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s “refurbed” by the seller. It also says it has approximately 35,000 hours on it. That’s 4 years of continual use. I wouldn’t trust that with anything.

        • @Trollception
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          42 months ago

          That drive could run another 5 years without any problems.

          • @toddestan
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            It certainly could. That’s the gamble you’re taking.

            I usually replace drives after 5 years if they are doing anything I consider important. So those drives to me would have 1-2 years left in them. Of course, I have seen a good number of drives I have repurposed to things less important still manage to rack up impressive numbers of hours.

            • @Trollception
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              I’m running Raid z2;and have considered even z3 which should be plenty of redundancy for older drives. Well that and backing up data to a separate location.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 months ago

            Depends on the usage. That’s the gamble you take. I would maybe buy three and put two in a mirror and keep the third one as a replacement?

            That’s 240$ for three drives without warranty though… Nevermind I’d prefer to buy two new Toshiba X300 new for 210$ a piece and forget the headache and get the warranty.

            Sometimes you get what you pay for … Sometimes

            • @Trollception
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              The Toshiba x300 is a consumer drive, the drive they are offering is an enterprise grade storage drive. I have only bought enterprise or nas speed drives in the past. Consumer drives may not be built to the same standards.