The UN general assembly has voted overwhelmingly to back the Palestinian bid for full UN membership, in a move that signalled Israel’s growing isolation on the world stage amid global alarm over the war in Gaza and the extent of the humanitarian crisis in the strip. The move drew an immediate rebuke from Israel. Its envoy to the UN, Gilad Erdan, delivered a fiery denunciation of the resolution and its backers before the vote, and fed pages of the UN charter into a shredder. The Palestinian envoy, Riyad Mansour, highlighted that the vote was being held at a time when Rafah, Gaza’s southernmost city that is the last haven for many people, faced attack from Israeli forces
Isn’t that the charter that…also acknowledges the statehood of Israel?
Lmfao oh my lord… It absolutely is.
I remember an Israeli pundit once complained that the UN creating Israel was “the mortgage that never ends” because the Israeli government absolutely loves to demonize the UN but still depends on it.
I think of Karen videos when I see Israel. She is so sensitive and irrational, but yet the US keeps giving her what she wants and only turning her into a bigger Karen. When she doesn’t get her way she calls you antisemitic and says you hate Jews.
Symbolically, that’s part of the point.
Stated goals of the UN charter according Wikipedia:
to maintain international peace and security, uphold international law, achieve “higher standards of living” for their citizens, address “economic, social, health, and related problems”, and promote "universal respect for, and observance of, human rights and fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race, sex, language, or religion.
Did they even read the charter before having their little temper tantrum?
They disagree with all of that so it checks out
That’s the UN charter, not the UN partition plan for mandatory Palestine. Israel was established through military aggression, which is what Russia is currently trying to do in Ukraine.
Rogue state
It’s really that bad
What a dork ass loser.
It’s probably less about telling off the UN and more about sound bites / video clips that will play well with his bosses and their political base back home.
Historically, right wing isolationist ideologues of all nationalities seem to cheer and double down when faced with international criticism. They know it’s them and their beliefs against the world and they have a fantasy that they can win, right up until an overwhelming number of them die for it.
Israel as a nation is not in a mood for self reflection and definitely doesn’t want to understand the hole their digging themselves into.
What a measured and mature response. Way to go Israel. /smh
It’s the UN assembly. I’m more surprised not a single shoe was taken off to be thrown or to beat on a desk.
Here’s the video of that moment. Warning: massive cringe
A fucking mini paper shredder? It isn’t even an emotional outburst but a preconceived demonstration? They actually planned out getting that little thing for him?
It was a premeditated tantrum! Oh, my sides.
Premeditated Tantrum would be an excellent punk rock band name.
Everything is a punk rock band name if you just try hard enough.
This would never fit on a marquee.
Needs to be on one of those giant dot matrix light signs so it can be animated.
They don’t play where there are marquees.
Who are great live by the way.
And the tiny little papers! Aww 🥺
Its actually in the article thumbnail
When he came home he played a sad song on
“You are shredding the UN charter…with your own hands.”
As he shreds the UN charter…with his own hands.
With a tiny shredder that he calls “a mirror”. Clown show.
‘You are shredding the UN charter with your own hands!’ In between him putting each page of the charter into the shredder… smh
Deeply embarrassing, why didn’t he just tear it up?
“Fiery denunciation” is a laughable overstatement, and the fact that they planned out this mini tantrum with a mini paper shredder is just outright comical.
Swing and a miss, that one!
United States, I swear if you veto this time…
They can’t; there is no veto power in the general assembly.
Palestine gets new rights from this but it also triggers a vote in the security council on whether Palestine will actually become a full member. The US will veto and has already signaled as much.
Good
Palestine gets new rights from this but it also triggers a vote in the security council on whether Palestine will actually become a full member. The US will veto and has already signaled as much.
Dammit, US.
Go on…
The world will never look at them very fondly ever again
Eat your heart out, The Onion.
We need more prop comics at the UN!
It’s been done before.
is that cum
He has a WMD!
Invade him!
“Special Envoy Carrot Top” has a nice ring to it.
Israel is a fascist theocracy
What is this? A shredder for ants?!
How did he procure it so quickly too??
Guess they had suspicions that just about everyone in the world doesn’t love genocide
That explains why those “I ❤️ genocide” T shirts sell so poorly
It’s a tiny little baby shredder!
This CNN article has a lot more information and context including who voted against the measure (nine countries including the US and Israel), the practical effects of the measure (new rights for Palestine to sponsor and support resolutions but still no vote), and what can be expected in the near future (a vote in the UN security council on whether to actually admit Palestine which might pass but which the US will veto).
Wonder why Czechia voted against the bill. Did I miss anything?
I’m Czech. No matter the party, our government always had Israel bootlickers. T. G. Masaryk, founder of Czechoslovakia, was anti-antisemitic. We share a prevailing fake feeling of tininess and vulnerability (in 1938, the Allies signed the Munich treaty, sacrificing us to Nazi Germany, and in 1968 our “partner” USSR invaded us for straying from hard Communism) even though we have strong allies and a decent standing in our respective regions. Our support mainly consists of shilling for Israel in international politics and preserving our Jewish sites while they provide tech investment and recently COVID vaccines. I think the government did send some aid but the average Czech does not care about Israel, as opposed to Ukraine, which was heavily donated to (and a huge number of its its refugees were accepted) thanks to our bad experience with Russia and a significant, well-behaved Ukrainian minority.
Thanks for the explainer!
I would say this has less to do with Israel bootlicking and more with US bootlicking (sure, not much difference but it’s always worth to remind that all this is because USA in the first place), Czech international politics look like made in Washington on all issues, which is visible especially lately when Visehrad group split on the Ukraine issue.
Sounds plausible
Yup, we are trying really hard to stop being associated with the Soviet Union. Our Senate meets to celebrate Israel‘s birthday and promises to fulfill NATO obligations while Israel representatives order a radar system from a Czech company and promise to shout “Czechia is in Central Europe!” at anyone suggesting we’re in the East.
That’s kinda visible tbh. The time I was in Prague for two months in 2020 made me feel like “alright, alright, I know already about the bloody Soviets and how cool is Václav Havel, could you please stop”
From that perspective, it makes sense how it could turn to serve NATO.
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and why Hungary?
I wish it also listed the abstaining countries. I hope I don’t see my country on that list but expect to. Anyone know what the list is?
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They had every right to respond to the attack from Hamas
I mean if history started on October 7th.
Liberals also don’t seem to realize Hamas’s strategies of taking hostages, using tunnels and guerilla warfare etc are identical to the Viet Cong’s, and so are their goals of driving out the occupation to reunite their country.
Also, “israel” has had — and continues to have — thousands of Palestinians hostage in its prisons for the entire 75 years that this colony has existed.
The native people have every right to use whatever means necessary to resist an occupation. Decolonization is violent; if you don’t like it, don’t colonize in the first place.
While I support Palestine, I do not think the solution is to violently overthrow Israel and return Palestine to its historical borders.
In those 75 years, many Israeli people were born on this land, and it really is their home. Palestine returning those lands threatens their safety and rights, especially after all that Israel the state had done to the people of Palestine. It would be foolish to assume Hamas will be civil and respectful to the people of Israel in return.
Most citizens of Israel have not brought it upon themselves.
Palestine, though, should retain every bit of its territory before the latest war, and Israel should pay huge reparations to Gaza and open free passage for any goods, services and people to and from Gaza.
Palestinians only have one method of resistance left, and that’s violence. Telling them to not use it because Israelis might get hurt is, and I’m sorry to say this, frankly ridiculous. If Israelis don’t want to get hurt maybe they should give Palestinians the state they’ve been asking for for forty years. I understand your concern, but the onus to prevent this outcome is squarely on Israel; as colonized people Palestinians have the right to use all means necessary to obtain their freedom.
That said, you’re most likely worrying over nothing. Hamas doesn’t have the capability to overthrow Israel; their operations mostly serve to lose Israel face on the international stage. The only scenario in which Israel falls is if America completely leaves it out to the wolves and the middle east tears it apart, which is extremely unlikely.
Most citizens of Israel have not brought it upon themselves.
Okay I understand the reflex to explain how governments don’t represent their people, but look at this and you might wanna reconsider. Netanyahu didn’t come out of nowhere; he came in when the only man in Israeli history who had the potential to actually end the conflict was assassinated (after Netanyahu and his ilk went in parades calling for his assassination) and since then it’s all been genocidal maniacs (save for one guy in 2008 who still didn’t have the guts to actually do something worthwhile), mostly Netanyahu himself. Now I don’t believe in “push the Zionists into the sea” rhetoric, and the only time it was realistic was in 49’ anyway, but the conduct of the Israeli public these past few months in particular and in the past 30 years in general has been nothing short of fucking disgusting. If Israel does fall and they’re persecuted by the new regime, anyone who wasn’t explicitly pushing for peace (and children and the like of course) is getting nothing but Schafenfreude from me.
All of this is excluding foreign-born citizens of Israel; anyone who willingly went to that place and isn’t explicitly calling for peace is a piece of shit.
I see your point (might not necessarily agree), thanks!
In those 75 years, many Israeli people were born on this land, and it really is their home.
Wait so this concept is only valid for Israelis?
Nope, relates to everyone, Palestinians included.
So you’re saying that Israel has no right to exist?
-Israeli government when they hear that, probably
The video is amazing. He was actually trying to show to the assembly “what they were doing” to the UN charter.
Instead he created a golden moment of cringe comedy where he is the one putting the charter into a tiny shredder, and declaring “you make me sick” like a petulent child with the diminutive machine’s whirring in the background.
Especially compared to the Palestinian speech he made himself look like a total clown.
I saw both this and also this ambassador’s rebuke of the UN’s consideration of Palestinian statehood.
How utterly juvenile. Their full court press against a Palestinian state is splitting at its worst.
Most attorneys, given the chance to address the chamber, would make some sort of concession. Even Trump’s counsel have done so in his Supreme Court immunity case, which is already beyond real, erudite credibility based on the arguments they are making.
Israel cannot continue making these arguments, invoking the Holocaust, while they are indiscriminately killing tens of thousands of Gazan women and children.
It is almost a psychological reflex; as they continue to slaughter innocents, the enemy must be ever greater in order to justify their actions.
The histrionic and jarring and aggressive speeches made by Israel at the U.N. appear to underscore their complete lack of remorse, their callousness in their approach, and their privileged status over recent decades.
If the Israeli government cares about statehood, could they please manage to do what every other state does and describe their borders?
The complete lack of an attempt at damage control in these diplomatic speeches underlies their viciousness.
Holocaust denial or diminution is a real actual problem in younger generations because they haven’t interacted with relatives who have these horrors in living memory. It’s disgusting how they dither when asked about the Holocaust.
Israel has a legitimate right to defend its borders, there is no doubt. However, they shouldn’t have a carte blanche license to kill.
What happened to Mossad? They were meant to be the most surgical special intelligence service of the 20th century. Have they gotten lazy? Or is this a campaign to psychologically demolish an enemy? What happened to Israel’s scholars, who understand the concept of blowback?
Starving Gaza is a war crime and should be punished as such. Such godawful optics that Israel has incinerated the goodwill they enjoyed after the October 7th attacks.
This country is anti-freedom of the press (Al Jazeera, careful control of western journalists embedded with Israeli troops, complete exclusion of independent journalists in Gaza except for Gazan civilian reports, with many indiscriminately murdered Gazan journalists).
They have the audacity to be shocked when the ICC and the UN try to hold them to account for their excessive bloodlust.
It is my opinion that this change in approach is long overdue. Israel has been violating international law for decades with their continual incremental and violent expansion in the Golan Heights and making a modern day Ghetto out of the Gaza Strip.
You cannot kettle a population like they have been doing; restricting travel, but also imports of goods that sustain its people. It is positively disgraceful.
I hope that Biden continues to come around in substantive ways, and I’m encouraged by his shift on policy thus far. It must be hard for a very old man, with very old ties to his Israeli ally, with all of the political pressure he faces in the direction of supporting Israel no matter what, to be the first leader to balk at weapons shipments.
But to do otherwise would be at best grossly irresponsible and at worst, suborning genocide.
I really want to see this as the UN finally mending its ways, but seeing how they got Saudi Arabia for women’s rights chair and got caught denying doing anything for refugees in Thailand because “it would anger China”… I can’t help but see it as them playing to someone’s interest in creating chaos.
I don’t know who that would, what I know is trusting the UN’s motives isn’t a good bet lately.
but seeing how they got Saudi Arabia for women’s rights chair
I remember seeing a hot take that the political reason for this was because it removed SA’s “you’re just making up rules without our input” excuse when they got called out. Basically, by giving them the chair, it put a spotlight on their abuses and simultaneously removed any political excuses they had.
Meh. I’m fine with making rules without their input on any subject matter, and specially this one.
Do you know how Saudi Arabia was elected to that seat?
story time!
honestly, as good as this may be in the short term, they’ve really just added one more highly Conservative religious state that will vote against the interest of the common good moving forward.
I strongly support Palestine gaining statehood and for Israel to stop fucking with them (that extends far beyond the war), but that doesn’t mean i like their ideals. i think there’s a strong chance that this will cause problems moving forward and that conservatives will use that as ammunition.
that said, this is the un finally really kinda doing its job for once. ending global conflict through diplomacy. can’t say that’s a bad thing.
Just so you are aware, America is one of the most conservative members of the UN and constantly stop the UN from preventing or stopping genocides and other atrocities around the world.
oh I’m aware, that’s why i said another.
The UN is more a place to talk with your enemies than with your friends, and getting the chance to sit at a table with people you disagree with rather than fighting each other is great.
If there are any Palestinians left to disagree with.
sure, but the issue of the un never getting things done or doing the wrong thing is due to the influence and stalling done by states that oppose the common good for religious reasons or personal gain. in the long run that’s what Palestine is likely to be.
so again, i don’t disagree with this move. it’s necessary, but i also Foresee more problems in the future. nothing really for it, just a prediction.
