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Donald Trump’s running mate, JD Vance, said in the wake of the deadly school shooting in Georgia that the massacres are sadly a “fact of life” and offered ways to fortify schools to make them safer against gun violence.
Kamala Harris put out a statement with Vance’s comments and called for “action to keep our children safe and keep guns out of the hands of criminals.”
And it appeared to strike a nerve with team Trump that she used Vance’s comments against them.
“Kamala’s interns just released a statement pushing FAKE NEWS,” Trump War Room posted to X with its more than 2 million followers. “Watch the full video and you’ll clearly see that JD Vance does not say what they claim he said. These morons do nothing but lie every single day.”
Except Harris’ campaign shared the same video.
Here’s what Vance had to say:
“I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” he said. “But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets. And we have got to bolster security at our schools. We’ve got to bolster security so if a psycho wants to walk through the front door and kill a bunch of children they’re not able.”
Vance said he doesn’t like the idea of his own kids going to a school with hardened security, “but that’s increasingly the reality that we live in.”
All of that was in what Harris’ campaign shared with her joint statement on the shooting with running mate Tim Walz. Vance said what team Trump said Vance didn’t say and accused the Harris campaign of distorting.
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“No fair using the entirety of what we said to make us look like shitbags!”
more like:
“No fair using the entirety of what we said to reveal we are shitbags!”
no one is making them look like anything
Fascists are the only ones where more context makes them look worse.
They are doing this to themselves
I like how they say “Watch the full video and you’ll clearly see that JD Vance does not say what they claim he said", knowing that the full video does the opposite, but their fans will never bother clicking on it.
Maybe the video needs a thumbnail of some open mouthed guy pointing at something. At least thats what virtually all of youtube thinks makes idiots watch their vids.
Children watch a ton of YouTube videos. So sadly, all the most annoying stuff exists because it works to get them to click…
Kamala posted sections of the full video, of course showing the bad comments from Vance. Trump posted only once section, but says watch the full video, while claiming all Kamala and her team do is lie. I’m actually trying to find the full speech and can’t. Pretty annoying since you know Trumpers will say Kamala is lying
they even quote the shit and it into the comments, even though it has captions LOL
Vance said he doesn’t like the idea of his own kids going to a school with hardened security, “but that’s increasingly the reality that we live in.”
Only in America. Weird that ‘reality’ ignores all other first world nations.
all other
Are you trying to imply the US is a first world country? /s
The definition of a first world country includes being a “stable democracy”.
If you ask Americans how likely they believe attempts at election fraud will happen in the 2024 election I would be shocked if less than 80% said “very likely”. That is not a stable democracy.
If you ask Americans how likely they believe attempts at election fraud will happen in the 2024 election I would be shocked if less than 80% said “very likely”. That is not a stable democracy.
to be clear, most of the people that are going to say that are insane MAGA people that think biden is going to try and steal it…
The rest are non trumpers who think trump is going to steal it so…
That’s exactly my point. Pretty much everyone in the country believes “If who I vote for doesn’t win it will be because of election fraud.” If the citizens do not trust their country’s democratic process then it’s not a First World Country.
yeah this is definitely the biggest problem right now.
I’ve been predicting for a little while that if people don’t “change how they view the government in the next 5-10 years we won’t have a government at all in 10-20 years”
His kids are not in public school or in any sort of danger from a school shooter. Else he’d actually do something about it
In the US the oligarchs worry about models of profitability like keeping wages dirt low, profits sky high and workers at each other’s throats rather than proven models of success like universal health care and sensible gun control employed by Europe and first world countries worldwide…
“But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets. And we have got to bolster security at our schools. We’ve got to bolster security so if a psycho wants to walk through the front door and kill a bunch of children they’re not able.”
The psychos are the students! What school is gonna prevent a student from walking in? If you are intended to be inside the building there will never be enough security to keep killers out when the killer is already in the building. They would have to start cavity searching students because if they want to shoot up the school they would find a way.
The only solution is LESS guns available!
Cavity searching the students is genuinely their recommendation.
Well. The problem students. You know the ones.
The ones with Republican parents?
The ones they find attractive?
“But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets. And we have got to bolster security at our schools. We’ve got to bolster security so if a psycho wants to walk through the front door and kill a bunch of children they’re not able.”
I guess no one remembers the fire alarm fiasco… March 24, 1998
https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/westside-school-shooting-3717/
There is another way.
Mental. Health. Care.
We need more of that, but we also need less availability of guns.
They’re charging the dad again here.
I don’t think that’s appropriate for every case, but when the parent provides access to an AR-15 with a child that has shown clear signs of mental instability… yeah, that’s negligent homicide.
I think every parent of a school shooter should be charged. Kids can’t buy a gun without being old enough and if they go black market where did the kid get the cash? I don’t let my kids hold onto enough cash to buy a gun, it goes in our joint bank account so I’ll know if they withdraw it. When they are 18 we will sign it over to them.
There are so many things a reasonable parent can do that a neglectful parent doesn’t. Also know who your kids friends are, meet them, meet the parents, judge them, judge the parents and the kids harshly. It’s your right as a parent to keep your kids safe. If they are in a bad crowd then do something. Change their school, report any and all suspicions that you have, follow your kids if they go out alone. I know its overbearing and your kids may hate it but it’s your ass on the line if they shoot up a school or theater.
You can’t CBT your way out of fascism and poverty
Poverty no, fascism, you can help those most vulnerable to believing it get the help they need so they are no longer suspectible to it.
Are therapists doing class consciousness now lol
i mean, technically they aren’t wrong, even the most educated and intelligent people are still susceptible to fascism, that’s why it works.
More than that. Attendance is mandatory (as it should be).
‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
https://theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-regularly-happens/
Does the J.D. stand for Jackass Dickhead?
Junior Dictator
Jorgen Depeanus Vance.
Jabroni Defined
Justthebiggest Dickhead
James Donald Bowman was born on August 2, 1984, in Middletown, Ohio to Beverly Carol (née Vance; born 1961) and Donald Ray Bowman (1959–2023). He is of Scots-Irish descent. His parents divorced when he was a toddler. After Bowman was adopted by his mother’s third husband, Bob Hamel, his mother changed his name to James David Hamel to remove his father’s name while using an uncle’s name to preserve his nickname, JD.
“People get shot at, look at Donny! Fuck I love this country!”
Delivered behind bullet proof glass with an armed team of mercenaries.
Mercenaries get paid. The guy standing around trump are just normal idiots with mercenary ambitions.
he’s already said, “we have to get over it.” how is that so much worse than “it’s a fact of life.” ?
they’re both fucking ghouls who cheer on the arms industries whether they’re tearing through Palestine or american schools, really what’s the difference?
edit: to clarify, I mean what’s the difference between these two statements - why all the amplified outrage now?
Gee one of them is a damned Nazi and the other is only(relative to fucking Nazis) a wall st leech.
One of them is So. Much. Worse. as to invalidate any comparisons.
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they’re both fucking ghouls who cheer on the arms industries whether they’re tearing through Palestine or american schools, really what’s the difference?
one of them is an accomplished couch fucker, the other is dealing with extremely complex global geopolitics
Once again, a maga/Republican is in trouble for saying out loud what they all believe.
I mean, I too hate that this is normal. Sending kids to school in prisons just isn’t my solution.
Do you think Trump’s “October surprise” is going to be him swapping out VP candidates?
Election rules don’t allow that in at least some places. Not sure how many.
past a certain point you’re locked in for candidacy, RFK is already experiencing this issue himself, and republicans, predictably, and wrong about it.
RFK just won an ruling that kept absentee ballots from getting sent out in North Carolina because his name is on the ballots, so now the voting can’t start until the courts get everything worked out and all the ballots get reprinted if he wins the appeal.
People are literally being kept from voting right now because of him, and that benefits Trump.
yeah, that sounds about right.
I’m not sure how much it’ll benefit trump, aside from just delaying the vote process, RFK votes seem to be pretty split so far, but it’s hard to tell so who knows.
Yet, somehow trump would be able to get away with it.
I mean, at least part of what he said isn’t technically wrong… School shootings are a “fact of life” in America.
And honestly, if we’re not going to address the actual issue, which is guns at a national level, I wouldn’t mind seeing every single school turned into a miniature 1980s Beirut.
Why not? Let’s assign a Meal Team Six to every school. We’ll get snipers on the roof, and random strip searches going on in K-12 education.
Maybe we can empower groups of students within each school to be miniature deputies who are tasked with keeping order among the other inmates, I mean students. We can call this the trustee program.
Oh, and by I wouldn’t mind, I mean I would be horrified and it would traumatize at least an entire generation of children before the program was scrapped, but if we’re already on this death drive and refuse to do anything meaningful, a part of me wants to see just how dumb we can really get.
His cultists are locked in they don’t hear this stuff and if they did they don’t care. Sad state of affairs
This guy is getting canned. Any day now.
I dunno, that would be Republicans supporting cancel culture.
Along with Peter Thiel’s money? No chance. Unless Elmo wants to double-down.
If he hasn’t given the money already I’m skeptical if it’s going to happen.
Downpayment now, the rest on delivery
Standard Terms of Political Bribery.
Ain’t going to be any delivery at this rate, that’s the problem.
Rest of the world: are they?
Trump’s “if it makes us look bad it’s a lie!”
And if I did mean it, you deserved it.
