Asking as there has been a few comments mentioning this with the new [email protected] taking over [email protected]
[email protected] for additional context on those recent events if you are interested
Also, an older post for more context on how lemmy.ml is managed: https://lemmy.world/post/16211417
Curious to hear other thoughts about this, as I’m trying to keep [email protected] active, but might suggest to move it elsewhere if a lot of people prefer not to interact with lemmy.ml communities
Of course.
They banned me for calling Russia imperialist in one of their rant post, and claiming NATO was necessary because countries keep invading their neighbors.
I’ve blocked the instance entirely. I never see posts from their communities, though I am surprised to still see users from it. I thought it would block everything.
No. I self-censor a bit there, and prefer other instances so I don’t have to, though.
Well, I’m here and I don’t know what you all are talking about. And this is sincere, truly don’t understand what’s the issue, could you point me to some of these controversial situations/discussions/measures?
I have a feeling that, if you ask for any specific instance, you’ll get people complaining and blocking that instance for their own reasons. So, I’d let my users decide whether they block or not a user or a whole instance. For example, I don’t like some of the communities in lemmy.world and I complain about it because it just feels the same as being in reddit, but having access to a different point of view is very valuable to me, so I don’t block them.
I also have to add that I use lemmy with the voting system completely disabled. I hate the voting system because it shapes people’s opinions to fit in some specific communities. This is why I think blocking instances should only be used as a last resort against things like blatant spam, boycotting, CP, hate speech and the likes.
.ml is kind of Hexbear or Lemmygrad-lite. On occasion when they notice, they’ll ban you for criticising places like North Korea. I got it once for saying Dengism isn’t socialist.
I still use it, because it’s mostly normal, and “we’re secretly the bad guys” isn’t a very dangerous conspiracy theory.
100% yes.
.ml generates most of the propaganda about my country I was complaining about in other post.
Just the fact that their admins also own grad speaks volumes.
It gets tiring having to be on the tolerant side while they can freely astrosurf backed and protected by their admins and devs… Just like the bots on reddit.If only blocking the instance at user level also blocked the users it would be great.
Yes. I’ve had personal experience, many times, of over the top censorship and bans based on opposing views expressed in a mature and rational way. Once or twice is fine, but I’ve seen it more there than my entire combined experience online, it’s crazy and happens to often to ignore.
I’ve also seen a crazy amount of trolling there and it seems the trolls are protected through crazy censorship of anyone calling them out. It’s just not worth the aggravation.
Not exclusively, but I do think twice before posting to a community hosted there, and actively seek out alternatives if possible. The only two I haven’t found alternatives for are c/crows and c/freecad.
crows
There’s [email protected], but it doesn’t have much activity.
Blocked the instance along with hexbear. So I think it would be good to drain the good communities from them if you can.
hell i went one step further and abandoned lemmy entirely for mbin
What’s the difference. Asking because I really don’t know. Lemmy, kbin, mbin, … what makes one better than the other, besides lemmy being (or having been?) actively developed by tankies?
kbin has a few extra bells and whistles, like it can also do mastodon-style “microblogging” and custom themes per user. it’s since ceased developement but mbin is a fork continuing it. other than that, the experience is the same
Blocked instance… They can figure their stuff out without me because I don’t want anything to do with them.
I try to refrain from sharing links to ml communities if there’s similar ones that aren’t drastically smaller. This is because it’s very easy to be banned there unless you’re a tankie
This is something that that bothers me… I joined lemmy.ml around 3 years ago as one of the pirate subs on reddit made a backup community there in case they were banned.
Fast forward to the api debacle, I started to use lemmy as a permanent alternative, and made 3 of my favourite art communities- abstract photography, collage and printmaking
It’s always been in the back (and sometimes the front of my mind) whether to move them elsewhere, partly because people commenting on their ‘blanket ban’ of lemmy.ml, and the fact that I sometimes feel that I’m on one of the ‘pariah’ instances.
It’s interesting reading the comments here, especially considering the art communities are laid back, without politics, and haven’t had any issues (so far)…
Moving communities is always an option.
We moved [email protected] to [email protected] a while ago, it worked fine, it’s even more active now that it used to be as there is no delay due to LW size
I do agree that art subs in general are among the most politics-free areas of lemmy, (speaking as a moderator of traditional art)
For me it was a blanket ban that finally caused me to unsubscribe from every ml community. If it wasn’t for that then it might be OK to keep hosting a non-political sub but the censorship over there is so aggressive and widespread that it’s very difficult to avoid.
I would say think about migration because if anything the problem is getting worse over time.
Instance blocked it. The mods are corrupt and actively shape conversation to align with their world view, without transparency.
It’s fine to disagree, and want respectful discourse, but it isn’t ok to use very vague sidebar rules to scour dissent
I have the instance blocked. Nice thing about Lemmy, you can vote with your attention. When toxic bubbles pop up, you can ignore them en masse. Any collateral blocking doesn’t bother me. [insert Nazi party meme]
I have fomo so I don’t block anything. I’ll downvote and move on if I see something that I feel needs a downvote
