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A Cybertruck ‘blew up’ outside Trump’s hotel in Las Vegas
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It’s still not clear what caused the fire
It’s a Cybertruck.
From another article…
While some early Tesla models, including the Model S, were prone to spontaneously catch fire if they suffered underbody damage, it’s unlikely the Cybertruck, which has been recalled seven times since it went on sale in November 2023, was released with a similar flaw.
Nah, no chance a cybertruck would have the same flaw. No chance at all, am I right?
It has a whole new set of flaws that result in the same outcome.
Saw one in daylight for the first time yesterday. They’re so big they don’t fit in Costco’s ridiculously oversized parking stalls.
Yet their bed is so small it doesn’t fit an average Costco shopping haul.
They’re the size of a F150. Smaller actually.
Is that bad? (Actual question) I mean the f-150 is probably the most popular truck model ever. So I wouldn’t think it’s an unfavorable comparison.
I don’t think it’s bad that its smaller than a F150. People like to harp on it though as if it’s this massive monstrosity like OP without realizing it’s the size of the most popular truck. I see F150’s parked at Costco just fine all the time.
Should all trucks be smaller? Sure, maybe, but I wouldn’t really hold the CT’s size against it. It’s also much shorter than other trucks at least at the front which is better for safety in general (even if you think the Cybertruck isn’t safe, being shorter is still safer). I’ve seen some trucks where their front flat grill is up to my neck. It’s kinda ridiculous.
The being made of steel and featuring sharp angles makes the whole ‘being lower is safer point’ moot. It would cut people in half if it hits them at speed.
We’ll have to see what the impact damage from that actually ends up being after collisions, but with the lower front and sloped hood/windshield, there’s the possibility of a better chance of being maimed from the steel and thrown onto the windshield, than rammed into, knocked over, and then driven over by a flat high front.
Some people would choose maimed over the more likely dead from the tall flat fronts. But some people might not want the maiming it will possibly do either.
If it isn’t enough to throw you onto the windshield though, then you’ll be maimed AND run over ;)
Edits for clarity, but also, I’ve wondered if this lower bumper is to reduce the SS impact and try to get you onto the hood? Also for all trucks with adjustable suspensions, I think a great pedestrian feature would be to drop the front immediately upon detection of imminent pedestrian impact. I don’t know how fast they could lower it in an emergency, but any amount should help.
It looked bigger, and given everything else about it the turn radius probably sucks too, so might as well be huge. I’d give credit if it was due, and was actually excited when Tesla first announced they’d do a truck…thinking of all the possibilities that everyone else thought. What we got was not that.
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Re: One of the best turning radius due to 4 wheel steering
Turning Circle from Motor Trend
F150 Lightning 48.0 ft
Rivian 44.9 ft
CT 43.5 ft
Edit (not from MotorTrend but GMs site): Silverado EV - 42.16 ft (also has 4 wheel steering)
I posted above that the cybertruck’s turning radius is 60% worse than the F-150s.
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F-150 has a turning radius of 27.3 feet, length of 232 inches, width of 80 inches. Hummer EV has a turning radius of 37 feet, length of 206 inches, width of 93.7 inches Rivian R1T has a turning radius of 22.3 feet, length of 217 inches width of 81.8
Cybertruck has a turning radius of 43.5 feet, length of 231 inches, width of 77 inches.
Okay, so the length “advantage” it has over the F-150 is roughly 0.4% of their length.
It is very slightly thinner than its competition, but its turning radius is 18% larger than its nearest competitor, which is the absolutely massive Hummer EV
In compairson to the f-150, it is 60% larger, and only has a bed capacity of 52.2 cubic feet(within the roller door) compared to the F150s 52.8 cubic feet.
Cybertruck bed capacity made from calculating the area of the bed that fits inside the roller door and tailgate.
I think you might be mixing up units for the turning radius between the f150/rivian and the CT
MotorTrend has the turning circle listed as
F150 Lightning 48.0 ft
Rivian 44.9 ft
CT 43.5 ft
Meanwhile the GM site says the Silverado EV is 42.16ft
So your 2 numbers for F150/Rivian aren’t the same measurement as the CT 43.5
Edit: Also the size comparison wasn’t about being an advatange or not, it was the person mocking the CT size when it was smaller than the countries best selling vehicle and favorite truck.
Edit: And worth noting that the CT, Silverado and Hummer all have the better turning circles because of their 4 wheel steering. The hummer is 25 inches shorter, leading to its best score. The silverado is a couple inches longer, and has a tighter circle which is a nice job.
You can look up every review on youtube for the cybertruck and it has the absolute worst turning radius of the lot, and they show it actually failing. I stand by the numbers i found.
I stand by the numbers i found.
This is a great comment to post on confidently incorrect.
In case you need help… it’s all the way at the bottom. You fucked your units up.
I stand by the numbers i found.
I stand by the numbers i found.
thank you and welcome to reddit
“I’m proud to be wrong, but I’m too proud to admit it.”
what’s a parking stall
Having multiple models share the same defect is just being efficient!
Especially since musk does it’s own safety testing right?
I mean yeah, it’s pretty unlikely, or we’d probably have seen more of these fires already.
My money is on the owner doing/transporting something stupid. Stupider than buying a cybertruck, I mean
What was the ignition source though? Gas and firworks usually dont just light themselves?
After having read the article, it looks like it was probably intentional
Probably even MORE likely, since these trucks are way less safety regulated than normal cars.
Well, it’s certainly a different beast. Being a pickup, the chassis is higher off the ground than other teslas. The problem with other teslas was insufficient armor on the underbody, so road debris could puncture through the vehicle and damage batteries. On a pickup there’s both more room for (essentially) an armor plate and any debris would have to punch much higher up.
All and all, these kinds of battery fires should be much less likely to occur on a truck than on a sedan.
Edit: Upon actually watching that press conference from the sheriff and fire marshall, it seems clear to me from the language they’re using, that they’re treating this explosion as likely an intentional act. And I have to say, there’s a lot of damning evidence in that truck bed.
The battery pack also has a substantial amount of room between the bottom and the cells. It was so much, that at first people thought that was room for the double stack battery they had originally planned, but it turned out to not be enough space, and is just there to vent gas if cells catch on fire, and more room before a puncture during offroading can reach a cell.
It wouldn’t have been the first time.
https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2024/12/31/cybertruck-catches-fire-dekalb-county-tesla-dealership/
That frame from the video of the vehicle looks like the cabin was undamaged. Good news for CT drivers if that is so
Well, that is funny.
However the battery didn’t explode, the truck bed was full of gasoline cans and fireworks.
And the steel body of the truck bed actually did a great job of containing the explosion, focusing it mostly upward. The sheriff points out that the windows in the all glass front of that hotel weren’t even shattered because the blast was so well contained by the truck.
Yeah, teslas are quite good at keeping things inside during emergency situations.
Like people.
Zing?
Zing.
People in teslas back when they did regularly catch fire from hitting road debris had no trouble pulling over and getting out before fire got into the cabin
They don’t need electricity to open the doors, and owners should really tell passengers how to open the doors manually
Search for whichever model’s user manual for your country if you want to see how to open the doors
Or, just hear me out, they could design the door so that people can intuitively figure out how to manually open the door in an emergency.
When it’s not an emergency the button to open the door is nice, and it’s hardly ever an emergency. The manual opening is easy enough that knowing about it is enough
“It’s hardly ever an emergency”
Yeah, except for when it is… dipshit.
I’d like to introduce you, for the very first time it seems, to the inherent nature of emergencies in general. Sorry the adults in your life all failed you (as us in turn)
Unmarked jokes about teslas don’t seem to perform well here
I actually own a Tesla 3 which has (like all 3s) no emergency release in the back, so I added glass breaking hammers both sides
I do understand that emergency actions need to both easy and trained so a pull string in the door pocket isn’t nearly as good as a handle and even better you don’t need to tell every passenger how to get out when it’s a lever rather than a button
Well that sounds like an odd propaganda moment then…
Literally a case of “Weird flex, but ok”
I think in some languages it translates to “matchstick kindling.”
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Wait, your telling me this was on purpose? I just thought the cyberjunk was so shit, someone visiting the building just HAPPENED to blow up
The vehicle’s battery was not damaged and did not catch fire.
The cargo area was full of fuel and explosives - in the form of firework mortars.
Explosives and fuel make a good fireball and fire. Fireworks being a 2 stage explosive (launch and pretty explosion), they may have expected the initial bang to disburse the fuel and the second to detonate it as a fuel/air explosive which would be very damaging, enough to take down the building.
Obviously were that their goal they did not sufficiently test. The vehicle contained the initial explosion and all they got was a fire
And the blast and fire exited through the passenger cabin, killing the driver. I hope it wasn’t a valet.
I wonder if it was triggered accidentally early or badly set up and detonated on its own or remotely triggered too early.
I bet they thought they’d light up the battery. Poor quality bombers
Poor quality bombers
I’ve seen a source (poor quality source, won’t quote) that identifies the likely suspect as a former green beret. Also, CNN says:
Authorities suspect that the driver had a background in military service, according to several law enforcement officials familiar with the investigation.
They should not be poor quality bombers. In fact, they should be able to build a decent bomb by heart in several ways, if they learned anything at all.
I’m at loss regarding what this guy actually intended to happen, and whether he achieved that.
- Hypothesis A, inspired by claims of links to the New Orleans attack: failed terrorist suicide bombing?
- Hypothesis B: intended to do big time vandalism and live, but something went wrong?
- Hypothesis C: some sort of a suicide pact?
Military experience doesn’t necessarily equate to McGyvering. I did a tour as an Army scout. I can shoot a lot of weapons, use knives and other non pyrotechnic weapons, set-up mines, claymores, use plastic, even creative uses for mortar rounds and grenades, but we were never given training on things like making bombs out of windex and a mars bar
Military experience is so random sometimes. I was in the regular, not special in any way, infantry and came away with how to do everything for an IED from make the ANFO, to putting it together, and how to hit a moving vehicle with it. To be fully honest it was also quite a while ago and now some of it is pretty vague in my head. But I would be unsurprised to find out other people kept notes from those days.
Clearly not, or you would know that Febreze and Snickers is far superior!
The presence of fuel suggests he wanted to do major damage but did not know how to properly capitalize on it’s use. Sadly special operations guys are at high risk for CTE stuff. So it’s entirely possible he was living a distorted reality.
The car was there for 20 seconds according to police chief. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjDyQ93QAao&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2F
There are reports of a firework mortar and gas canister in the back. Looks very intentional and showy from the video. Stupid way to end one’s life, but that was part of it I think as well.
It’s like the opposite of early-2000s games, where the car models had an ever-growing poly count but the fire was still an animated 2d sprite.
The weirdest thing about a cybertruck bomb is that the world has become so shit that it’s not even interesting. Like, I just cannot care because every day something insane happens.
That’s the real fucking signal IMO.
Whoever is in charge of writing this simulation is just getting lazy.
They are really heavy-handed on the symbolism in the new season. And right in the first episode? Bold.
He hasn’t even been inaugurated yet. We’re still in the last season recap.
It does feel increasingly like we arent living in any sort of actual reality anymore. Maybe our universe really IS just a simulation. If so, the entities who made it should be ashamed of themselves. This is pathetic.
Boring game play, shit writing, toxic community, and all the content is pay to win. I want a refund.
At least genshin impact has waifus
We don’t even have spider girls.
They clearly need to just drop pre-tenses and start turning people into dragons. Personally I volunteer to be a thicc bbw milfy dragoness
Careful, you’ll summon “Drag”
I dunno man, Drag’s pretty cool
Why would anyone not want to summon Drag? Drag is a cool drag! Also I vote for turning into a dragon with hands similar in utility to a human’s hands, I really want to play MHWilds
They probably just came from a holiday, give them a break!
Is this an omen for the new year or just a fitting metaphor for it?
The next four years, really.
Minimum 4 years
I mean, he is 78 years old, apparently never exercises, and eats McDonald’s on a regular basis…
With access to the best God damned Healthcare money can buy
He was almost defeated by a glass of water and a slight incline the last time he was president and his brain is pretty clearly Swiss cheese.
Good healthcare has its limits.
Even the best health care is only as good as the patient’s willingness to listen to an expert. Unless there’s some poor intern being tasked with wrapping Donvict’s meds in cheese so he’ll swallow them, that might not matter.
The people pulling the strings would probably have that happen tbh lol.
More money does not mean better treatment per se. The standard of care is the same for rich and poor. He may be able to get more doctor opinions and have an easier time getting meds/etc. though.
The standard of care is not the same in the US
“Oh, I see that you’re a rich - come with me to the executive wing of the hospital where we keep the cures”
No - the standard of care is not defined based on who or how much you have. You treat the same disease with the same treatment. Rich people can just afford treatments easier.
Per se is doing a lot of work there. Sure, if the rich person and the poor person chose the same insurance company and the company doesn’t deny coverage to the poor person (it doesn’t matter for the rich one, since they can afford it) they could get the same coverage if they have equal quality hospitals nearby and the rich person is happy to be treated by their nearest in network hospital
But poor areas have worse hospitals
And when the rich one is president of the united states that one also has a staff medical team, and access to military medical units, and a plane and helicopter on hand to move him
Just regular rich have access to faster transport to better hospitals than the 99% can have
But yeah, on paper, ignoring effects from socio economic status and where the 99% live versus where the 1% live, versus where the .001% live it’s all equal
Per se is doing a lot of work there. Sure, if the rich person and the poor person chose the same insurance company and the company doesn’t deny coverage to the poor person (it doesn’t matter for the rich one, since they can afford it) they could get the same coverage if they have equal quality hospitals nearby and the rich person is happy to be treated by their nearest in network hospital
Thank you - that is my point and only my point. There is not “special medicine” that presidents get like all of Lemmy seems to believe.
The rest of your post is my third sentence…
It’s just the best thing that will happen for the next four years.
Only time might tell
IntentionalRennaissance.
Says a lot that like nobody knew what to make of it until the propane tanks were found.
Its still unclear if the driver intended for it to explode or if somebody tossed a bunch of flammables in the back and the truck lit it.
Thinking this through, they probably filled the car with gas until they couldn’t breathe and then hit the firework mortar to set it all off. Also gives them a higher chance of ending it all then, as opposed to the “oops, all fire!” version, which would have been a lingering way to go.
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Looks a lot like a trunk load of fireworks exploded.
Good video on the Guardian’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq9_zvpamUk
Video on the YT channel of The Times. Don’t know who is talking but they killed me: https://youtu.be/JrDnramp8i8?t=34
CNN saying there were also gas tanks and camping fuel
The explosion looked like it included fireworks and the fire looked like a liquid fuel fire - movie explosions are petrol (gasoline) bombs
The vehicle contained it all pretty well, with the main exit for force and fire was via the window between the trunk and the cabin
The vehicle contained it all pretty well, with the main exit for force and fire was via the window between the trunk and the cabin
Engineered like a tank… but the tank is a T72
A cybertruck in it’s natural habitat
Performing its natural mating display.
Don’t care. Sounds like a problem for fascists.
So lets see, a recall every few months, do not allow them to ever get them wet, dont drive them offroad, you’re not allowed to sell them, and never use them to haul fireworks.
Don’t feed them after midnight?
do not drive them through the mud or tow anything over a non-flat surface
Canyonerooo-oooh yah!
Canyonerooo
Heh. Nobody is as mad as a betrayed zealot
The irony in the headline alone is enough sustenance to carry me through the lean months ahead.
I don’t think we will be experiencing an irony drought.
The glass doors right next to the vehicle look intact in the image, so I can’t imagine that the explosion was very large.
I don’t think it actually “exploded”, just caught fire. So you know, standard behavior for a Tesla.
There’s a video out now. It definitely exploded, but from my amateur digital forensics it looks like it was the result of a trunk full of fireworks instead of the car itself. I could be wrong.
Um, one DEAD, seven injured…
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The front door manual door releases for all current Teslas are on the door, right next to the opening button.
You are right about the rear doors though - they are hard to find if you don’t already know.
It did blow out the glass on the vehicle.
