Summary
Germany and France criticized U.S. President-elect Donald Trump after he refused to rule out military or economic actions to acquire Greenland, an autonomous Danish territory and part of the EU and NATO.
Germany stressed borders must not be changed by force, citing the UN Charter, while France warned against threats to EU sovereignty.
Trump defended his position on national security grounds, proposing tariffs on Denmark if it resists.
Denmark and Greenland rejected the idea, with Greenland’s leader reiterating its desire for independence, not U.S. annexation.
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Putin’s Sock Puppet is using the same excuse as his Moscow bosses for invading Ukraine.
Chinese and Russian astroturfing is paying dividends so early. So much value I’m sure they will 10x the investment for the next election.
Chump change compared to what his buddies will trap this round.
“Shmermany and Shmance shmiticize nyahh nyaa…”
I’m sick and tired of reading this kind of empty, pointless “news”. STOP ENTERTAINING HIS BULLSHIT. It doesn’t warrant public debate. Let him know via diplomatic channels it’s not gonna happen but don’t let him hog the public’s attention.
Same with other clowns in the public eye. Don’t give them the attention. Point out what’s really happening and what people can do about it instead.
You’re helping them turn politics into high school drama. Gah. We really are getting stupider as a species.
Ah I see. He wants to start a war with NATO so that Russia can help and invade more of Europe.
Probably
Hey remember the claims that nobody respected us under President Biden?
They did. They trusted and collaborated with us. So much for that for a while.
For Trump, others ‘respect’ is groveling and subservience.
Trust and collaboration are never what he wants. That leaves room for him to not get his way.
What he fails to grasp is that people can act like they’re subservient to you while making you a useful idiot, especially when you’re as easily manipulated as he is.
And this is precisely why world leaders and business leaders are lining up to kiss his ring. Not out of fear, but because they want something and they know how to get it with him.
Hey, Americans, if your government starts invading Panama, Greenland, Canada, etc, what are you going to do about it?
Swallow whatever propaganda is set in front of them like they always fucking do, the credulous numptys.
They’ll fall in line…
Post memes on the internet.
It’s a good thing that they have all those guns to fight tyranny with.
Sit it out in protest?
Protest. But we are owned by corporations and the wealthy. So I doubt it will do much.
Just need 3.5% of the population
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world
I take issue with comparing the success rate of violent revolutions to non-violent ones. I think that violent revolutions happen when non-violent revolutions are impossible or unfeasible. The fact that they have less success doesn’t mean much when trying to do a non-violent revolution would likely have no chance of success.
Historical circumstances will vary and so no single strategy is better for all cases.
I think one of the major issues we have is we are so spread out. It’s not like a majority of us can drive a few hours and get to DC to protest. It’s a days drive from where I am at.
Our politicians don’t feel the pressure they should.
Christ. We’ve got at least four more years of this boring bullshit unless the fat orange cunt dies. We can but hope.
He would need to die before inauguration or we get Vance.
I was hoping that he would become too senile to lead before that but now I’m realizing it won’t be noticeable.
Have you heard his incoherent ramblings?! He already was too senile to lead in 2016. It’s not like that prevented Americans from electing him the first time…
After reading the first part I said how would anyone notice haha
Well he could drop sooner and be replaced by J D Vance.
If he dies before the inauguration, the presidency goes to the person who finished second, not his VP.
Hmm…
It might have been wishful thinking or a hallucination.
The second trump presidency is like an extinction level event for the country. In four years see if there is anything left. In the meantime yeah the country will be torn apart.
It seems half of the country wants it, and the other half can’t get their act together enough to turn up and vote. So…
Vote? There is no more vote. Get that shit out of your head. If you ever want to vote again, watch American idol.
We really are Axis now. This guy actually wants to just start invading other nations.
Trump seems to have become even more prone to picking confrontations.
Now, as for Greenland… I’m fairly sure that the Inuit understand their possible paths.
Denmark -> is a foreign power, but the weakest and most friendly foreign power that is available. If someone wants a career abroad, via Denmark it’s possible to access the EU. As part of Denmark, one gets a stable democracy with decent health and social security guarantees, and decent workers’ rights.
The US is not a comparable replacement. It’s a damaged democracy (part oligarchy) with a problematic electoral system that produces a two-party political landscape. The landscape is currently very polarized. The US is arguably nearing a constitutional crisis due to Trump, the first felon president. In almost every comparison, the US scores high on violence and low on social / medical guarantees - it’s the country where cops shoot citizens and citizens shoot health insurance bosses. It has nothing appreciable to offer in terms of workers’ rights.
If I were a politician in Greenland, I would offer to join the US - on the condition that Trump successfully commits seppuku. A decent president should be willing to lay his life down for such a big territorial gain. :)
Okay…
I’m aware I’m going way out on thin ice with this but I have to ask:
Isn’t there a joint military chief staff that actually advises and vetoes military operations on that country?
if my numbers don’t fail me:
- he threatened Panama
- he threatened Canada
- he has an off leash whatever threatening the UK
- he threatened Greenland, Denmark and, by extension, the entire EU
That is at least 5 potential theaters of war, some of which are not exactly helpless punching bags, with the potential to drain millions of lives.
Isn’t there a military cabinet to say: $no, those are allies and we will not engage in warfare with allied nations"?
In extreme scenarios, military forces are expected to houst unfit heads of state. Don’t the US armed forces have the balls for it?
You forgot mexico.
As much as I understand us military, they are required to follow all orders (like any military, really) except orders that are illegal.
So, if Trump ordered an invasion of Greenland, the military should refuse that order, unless that order also comes with an act of congress declaring war on Greenland. However, Nixon bombed Cambodia without a declaration of war, so I don’t know.
Not really.
In my country, military personnel are sworn to uphold the constitution and to the flag.
Back 2012 or something, we had a very unpopular government (we were under IMF management) that rolled over with every single demand the IMF put on the table and then some. The government attempted time after time to pass laws that were blatantly against our constitution and, at some point, in very veilled way, threatned to order the military to supress civil demonstration (mostly peaceful).
The military openly warned against such ideas and remembered the government the military exist to defend the country, its constitution, rule of law and its people, not the political class.
There was a not so small risk of a repeated coup.
So, all of this to say: armed forces serve the country, not politics.
You can’t make this shit up.
Can they also please discourage him from invading Canada, Mexico, Panama and (if he does what Musk wants) the UK? Because it’s feeling a bit like living next door to Hitler up here.
Will they also be donating a cool million to his inauguration though? They aren’t gonna get very far with him if they didn’t 😬
They should just offer to trade it for Florida.
Who wants Florida? It’ll be under water in a few years, and until then it’s full of people who thought DeSantis was a good idea.
That’s sorta the joke.
