• JaggedRobotPubes
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    258 hours ago

    The Fediverse needs UI work. The new world needs a new internet.

    I’m thankful we have this glorified hobbyist project of a micro internet, because it’s awesome. It’s time for real layout work to make things more intuitive, instead of this “just solder it” open-source-in-the-bad-way energy that sometimes gets half-assedly splattered around.

    For everybody who has and is working on the Fediverse, thank you.

    • @somtwo
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      115 hours ago

      The reason I dislike this comment is it characterizes the work of many different people as “don’t care.” I would bet money that there are people who work on fediverse projects who care very deeply about UX but have to settle because they have day jobs.

    • Blaze (he/him)
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      23 hours ago

      Lemmy is lucky to have alternative frontend like Photon, Tesseract and Alexandrite

      • ArchRecord
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        75 hours ago

        “You want this thing to be better? Well why don’t you single-handedly do all the work yourself then? Obviously only those with the skill to do something can hope for that thing to happen!” /s

      • @Feathercrown
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        65 hours ago

        God I hate this attitude. It’s so obviously wrong and yet people fall for this trap again and again. Stop doing this please, think about it and you’ll realize it’s stupid.

  • hitagi
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    2310 hours ago

    I was surprised when my friend casually brought up Pixelfed (he called it “Pixelfeed”) and Bluesky the other day.

    • Captain Aggravated
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      119 hours ago

      For the average person who doesn’t understand or care about federated systems, “pixelfeed” is probably a better name. It feeds you pixels.

        • Captain Aggravated
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          46 hours ago

          I’m guessing it’s a pun on both fed meaning “eats, runs on, is powered by” and “federation/fediverse.”

  • dhhyfddehhfyy4673
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    149 hours ago

    Mainstream media is an antiquated term. Been a while since they’ve been mainstream. Corporate media, or legacy media even, is more suitable nowadays.

    • Captain Aggravated
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      59 hours ago

      It’s like how people still say “internet famous.” There are Tiktokkers with larger followings than movie stars these days.

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        Is that really the same thing though? Just for a random example of the first actor that popped in my head, Chloe Grace Moretz probably doesn’t have as big a social media following as Skibidi Kid or whereas I could probably find random people in the streets in the 3rd world country that I live in if I just had to start bringing up her name without any further details. Whereas Skibidi Kid is only known by the other Skibidi kids on that particular platform and probably won’t even be a big deal next year, like Dab Kid.

        I used to see people express the same sentiment towards YouTubers and it’s the same deal there IMO. SaltyPeeDrinker or whatever might cause a big ruckus in certain circles on the internet and have a bunch of incel fans but outside of the internet and in the real world, nobody actually gives a fuck. Not in remotely the same way as with movie stars, music stars, sports stars etc. These people aren’t that important or significant, they’re just another feature of online brainrot.

        Edit: I feel like online ‘content’ creators are related to actors and musicians in the same way that AI art is related to human art or reality TV is related to Breaking Bad.

        • Captain Aggravated
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          25 hours ago

          And what was everyone watching during the pandemic? Tiger King.

          You can think as much or as little of social media and/or the film industry as you like, but there a noticeable change in the older media regarding its “talent”: It’s less common for them to have personal brands, quite unlike social media personalities.

          • @[email protected]
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            I hear your point but also it might be a mostly first world thing. So kinda like comparing local country music artists to Michael Jackson. Maybe other 3rd world denizens can chip in but here (so this is purely anecdotal) but in my corner of the world, we watched movies and series and played games and shit like we would’ve pre social media.

            Personally I’m not even sure what Tiger King is (and not that interested in finding out either, if I’m being honest) and if I go outside and ask around here, I’m not sure how many answers I would get. Possibly I’d get an answer once school is out and kids are around, I guess.

            Edit: just to add, I hope this doesn’t go the same way as the time I was trying to explain to Americans that the NBA really isn’t this global phenomenon in every household and that John Cena is probably more famous here.

  • Jeffool
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    89 hours ago

    Just remember this when you see people complain about having to pick a server when joining Mastodon. It’s not that, maybe it’s just not easy/intuitive lile PixelFed is making it? I don’t know.

    And then when people were joining, I just saw them complaining about all the anger/aggression on Mastodon. It may’ve missed a big jump on point with Bluesky’s rise, but there will invariably be more. People just have to be ready and willing.

  • sunglocto
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    3614 hours ago

    Great! Seems like a small subset of people are coming to the fediverse again like durring the reddit blackout. Always love having more people to speak to.

  • @[email protected]
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    2313 hours ago

    Great stuff, I don’t do Instagram but I installed the app just to boast their numbers a little

    I’m doing my part!

  • @[email protected]
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    5115 hours ago

    Kickstarter coming sometime soon to get some more resources going for it and related projects. will be interesting to see if it’s effective.

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pixelfed/pixelfed-foundation-2024-real-ethical-social-networks

    Dan tends to work on too many things simultaneously (which isn’t bad per say, and he thrives doing so) which means things get stalled and its a little hectic. Hoping more funds and community excitement will help spread the work out more and allow him to keep working as he does without other projects being on pause in the meantime.

    • @[email protected]
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      2114 hours ago

      A few of those projects just need to mature and have teams working on them, I think. There’s nothing wrong with him bouncing around to different projects but it sucks that no one’s working on Pixelfed if he isn’t. It’d be great if he could secure enough funding for an additional paid dev on each of his major projects.

        • @[email protected]
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          1714 hours ago

          Yeah, it’s crazy. Same thing for Loops, FediDB, Sup, and his million other projects. He’s a one man band right now. And he has a full-time job on top of that!

          I don’t think that can go on for much longer with Pixelfed blowing up – and they’re still onboarding about 1000 people per hour. Just for moderating pixelfed.social, he said yesterday that he’s received more reports in the last 48 hours than in the last 7 years. There’s only so many hours in a day.

  • mesamune
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    Excellent. They are seeing huge growth. I’m hoping it’s sustainable, the main server is just getting slammed right now (according to the mastodon posts).

    According to fedidb all they need is 70k ish more people and I get will surpass Lemmy in number of users.

    • @cm0002
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      3616 hours ago

      Does Lemmy federate with pixelfed posts?

      • @[email protected]
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        1714 hours ago

        They do. I could be wrong, but I don’t think Pixelfed supports groups yet so I don’t think you can interact in a meaningful way. I looked you up from pixelfed.social. I can see your account and could follow you but Pixelfed only shows posts with attached media so I can’t see any of your posts/comments.

        • @[email protected]
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          26 hours ago

          Isn’t this the dilemma? Each type of fediverse project has its own focus, presenting posts in different ways. If we increase interoperability to the point where everything can be presented fully on any service, will each service be able to keep their focus? Would there be a point in having pixelfed when mastodon exists?

          • @[email protected]
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            36 hours ago

            I don’t think it should be a dilemma - but some do. I don’t see why there can’t be different corners of the Fediverse. This is my most isolated account here and I’m fine with that. I don’t personally want or need integration with Mastodon. I’m glad mbin has that for people who do but I’m not interested in it. And I think it’s kind of cool that there are different cultures within Fedi. Mastodon, Pixelfed, and Lemmy are all so different from each other and I don’t think it’s a problem to solve.

            I know the ActivityPub authors were concerned about Mastodon getting so big because it only implements a small portion of the AP spec. So they’re stoked that others are building out in ways that expand beyond the needs of microblogging.

        • @cm0002
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          514 hours ago

          Yea I’ve been trying too, I can also search, see and “follow” comms and it’ll pull up things like the sidebar info, but actual content is missing

          So it’s there, but very broken unfortunately. I should make a note to open an issue if there’s not one already

      • mesamune
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        Most servers do. Depends on their block/allow list and their setup.

        The software supports it, you just need to make sure one of your users has followed an account/lemmy community on the pixelfed side and make sure a lemmy account follows an account on the pixelfed side.

        Its not a perfect solution, but it gets the job done after that. (I tested this on an older version of lemmy and a new bleeding edge version of pixelfed)

        One of the biggest ongoing issues with lemmy is that all the other fediverse systems generally work together pretty well but then you get to lemmy and it works…kinda? Mostly? But there is always quirks, like only being able to post but not see comments. as I say on lemmy :). I like the platform because of the ongoing community that seems to stick around and have sustainable growth (like oooold reddit).

        • @[email protected]
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          314 hours ago

          you just need to make sure one of your users has followed an account/lemmy community on the pixelfed side

          OK so I went to my pixelfed.social account, searched for “@[email protected]” and clicked on the “follow” button.

          and make sure a lemmy account follows an account on the pixelfed side.

          So… does it have to be a lemmy account on lemmy.world (for [email protected], say). And is there any particular pixelfed account that the lemmy account has to follow?

          Thanks for the lead.

              • @[email protected]
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                411 hours ago

                I think I figured it out… consider the following links:

                These all refer to the main developer of pixelfed, dansup. The first one is dansup’s pixelfed account followed on slrpnk.net where my account is. The second one is dansup’s pixelfed account followed on lemmy.world, the biggest lemmy instance. The third one is dansup’s pixelfed account followed on lemmy.today, which is your instance.

                The account is visible to me on the first two links. HYPOTHESIS: I think that means it’s “being followed” by those instances? The account is NOT visible on the last link for me, I just get an error. NeatoBuilds, take a look at the last link: it might give you an error the first time, but HYPOTHESIS: if you refresh, I think it will be visible and that means it’s “being followed” on your instance lemmy.today.

                • NeatoBuilds
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                  Oh cool yeah I was about to find my mastodon account and see posts and i could see my pixelfed account but shows it as no posts and no way to follow them

      • @[email protected]
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        215 hours ago

        Yeeees, but the two won’t generally see each other unless they try. That’s my understanding.

    • @I_Miss_Daniel
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      613 hours ago

      I can’t log in now on Android. Could last night. Guess it’s growing pains.

    • Blaze (he/him)
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      1416 hours ago

      According to fedidb all they need is 70k ish more people and I get will surpass Lemmy in number of users.

      Monthly active users is probably a more relevant metric

      • metaStatic
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        in that case they blew past lemmy before the exodus.

        The insta crowd is super active.

        • Blaze (he/him)
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          1116 hours ago

          That’s great!

          It makes sense as well, IG is much more popular than Reddit

      • mesamune
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        615 hours ago

        Then they doubled theirs in 15ish days, which is crazy good.

  • madjo
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    410 hours ago

    Now all we “need” is a Facebook-like platform on ActivityPub and the set is complete

  • unknown1234_5
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    nice. I don’t like that kind of social media, but that means the fediverse is getting attention and people may start migrating here instead of to progressively more privacy-violating platforms.