The Unix Way, everybody!

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  • slazer2au
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    6711 days ago

    If file systems are databases, then does that mean storing a sqlite db on a HDD is database inception?

  • @mlg
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    2210 days ago

    Didn’t someone actually try making SQL as a filesystem and it ended up being something like 50 times slower than ZFS after they applied a ton of optimizations?

    Not as a serious project, but more like a joke to see what would actually happen.

  • irelephant 🍭
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    2111 days ago

    You’re right! Ill just store all this data as static json files in a directory then

    • @thedeadwalking4242
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      510 days ago

      Blob storage usually uses a FS back end so it’s more like blob storage is like a file system

  • @renzev
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    1110 days ago

    Just fucking putting data into json files in a folder is so much easier than databases. Sure, databases are faster and give you access to powerful SQL queries. But if you’re just making something small and simple, you don’t need those things. Save yourself the hassle and just use the filesystem.

    Or use minio/s3, which can either be the best or the worst of both worlds depending on your usecase.

    • @[email protected]
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      1110 days ago

      The trouble is, filesystems don’t have ACID. The first time you have a power loss during a write, your data will get corrupted.

      • @renzev
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        110 days ago

        Hmm that’s a valid criticism, thanks for pointing it out

    • @FooBarrington
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      1010 days ago

      It also makes you re-implement a database, but worse.

      Use a JSON file if you just need to serialize/deserialize some data. Use SQLite or a DB server if you need more. Your own code will never match the quality of SQLite.

        • @[email protected]
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          310 days ago

          Made a bash script using sqlite recently to automate processing some data. Best part is it terrifies everyone else at work and no one else wants to touch it because it’s on Linux and none of them have used it before.

    • @[email protected]
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      310 days ago

      Duckdb can query them with SQL like they are in a database. Csv, tsv, parquet also. You can even connect to and query postures and cloud storage also

      • mugdad1
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        511 days ago

        wtf how do you mix between lemmy and mastdon i also have account there but i didn’t thought that the content will be here also so please explain

          • mugdad1
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            511 days ago

            ok tried mentioning my self their it worked i didn"t knew about that yes i wondered how they are mixed sometimes thanks man

        • @[email protected]
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          11 days ago

          Welcome to the lovely world of the Fediverse! Mastodon and Lemmy, among many other kinds of software, both run on ActivityPub. This means that even if the servers aren’t both running Lemmy or Mastodon, they still speak the same language and can therefore understand the content of each other’s posts (think of it as email, gmail.com can still send and receive mail to outlook.com). Other examples of AcitvityPub software are Misskey, Mbin, Friendica, Pixelfed, Loops, Piefed, PeerTube and many others that I haven’t learned about yet. While they theoretically can all fetch and present posts from each other, due to the choices that each developer makes while designing their software, it might not be very possible to get every post from every software. For example, Mastodon is all about following people, and Lemmy about following communities. Even though Mastodon is able to follow Lemmy communities, Lemmy has (as of writing) no function to follow people (yet).

          • mugdad1
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            211 days ago

            man i wanna be your frind what an amazing explainition you rock 🥰🥰🥰 i understood everything thanks also i got pixelfiled and mastodon and lemmy and i saw the connection thanks i posted in mastodon can you please go there and see it @[email protected]