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Fauci is the latest in a string of former Trump aides-turned-critics to see their federal protection canceled despite ongoing threats to their lives.
Speaking to reporters in North Carolina on Friday, Trump said he wouldn’t feel any responsibility if harm befell the former government officials. A person familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive security issues, said that Fauci’s federal security detail was ended on Thursday and that he has since hired private security.
When asked about Fauci and former national security adviser John Bolton, Trump said, “They all made a lot of money. They can hire their own security, too.”
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“You can’t have a security detail for the rest of your life because you worked for government,” Trump said.
He literally has that just by being president.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
Trump knows exactly what he’s doing. He is waiting on his rabid fan base to kill Fauci.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
Wilhoit’s Law. It’s as true in the US now as it was in Italy a century ago, then Spain and Germany in the following years. Not ominous at all! 😬🤬
Won’t someone rid me of this meddlesome priest?
He meant Fauci when he said “you” i guess. This is so fucking stupid, but no surprises there
The smart move here would be for the EU/UK to set up an easy method for all the clever, motivated people alienated by the orange hitter’s actions to jump ship
I’m waiting for the inevitable immigration programs that countries are gonna roll out to make it easier/more attractive for educated Americans
Yes, this is “my” country, but fixing the gaping wound it’s got now won’t solve all the other more insidious issues
I am hoping some countries offer asylum for queer people whether or not they are educated.
That would be fantastic. I’ve been thinking a lot about early 1930’s Germany lately, and the Jewish people who saw the writing on the wall there. The people who survived the Holocaust were mostly the ones who got out before it started.
I have queer kids. I’m currently working on moving my family to Canada.
Good luck! Every queer person needs to get out of America if they can. I fear for their safety. My daughter is queer and we just emigrated to the UK because of that.
I’m glad you had the means and ability to get your daughter out and you’re a good parent for prioritizing her safety and well being.
Sorry to be annoying but you emigrate from and immigrate to.
Thanks!
Thanks. It’s heartbreaking, because I love my city and I grew up here. I have a house. I have pets. I have roots. But the whole country is no longer save for my kids.
If I had no children, I’d stay and fight as best I can. But kids change the equation. I have to make sure they survive. And evidence strongly indicates that they’re going to be targets of the new Nazis if we stay.
Hey, I’ve been thinking about this for the last few days… How did you do it? How did you get out so fast? I’ve got a house, I’ve got pets, I’ve got roots here. Pulling up stakes is slow and time-consuming.
And do you have a work visa? Or are you a dual-citizen?
I am a dual citizen, so I am lucky. If you have a parent who was born in the UK, was married to your mother when you were born, and you were born before 1983, you automatically qualify for British citizenship. Unfortunately, my daughter can only stay here for six months unless I get a job paying more than £29,000 a year, so that’s my biggest concern at this point. Our savings won’t last that long though.
OK, that makes sense. Sadly, all of my family have been here for four generations or more. My wife has one slightly easier potential option: If her father claimed Irish citizenship and moved to Ireland, she could piggyback on his Irish citizenship and claim it for herself and our kids, and I’d be able to live there as her husband. But that’s really a non-starter, since her father has health issues that preclude a big move like that.
Right now, we’re focusing on Vancouver, B.C., because my oldest wants to go to college there, and it’s not too far away from where we are now in the Pacific Northwest. If I can get my company to move me, that will make it a lot easier, as they have an office there and my job is 100% remote anyway. But until he finds out if he’s accepted or not, we’re in a frustrating hurry-up-and-wait mode.
As a broke disabled trans person, who isn’t getting out of the country let alone shitty red state my SO and I are in anytime soon, yes please. I should’ve gotten a passport when I had the chance but here we are…
I am so sorry.
Hopefully we can at least move to a safer state when our current lease runs out, moving is just expensive chaos is all, and our lease is for another year and a half :/ Worst case we just hop in the car and leave but that’s less than ideal.
I hope so for your sake! I am so worried for queer Americans.
Or Canada…
But what it reminds me of is Haiti, so many Haitians go study abroad and never come back (not permanently anyway)… The same thing will end up happening in the USA if things keep going the way they are, tons of people with higher education will leave and only those in agreement with the government will stay, making things even worse and the general population will be stuck…
Pro tip if you don’t have special qualifications to help you get out, Australia has long lasting visas if you do work in the agricultural sector, if you add time as a tourist you can stay up to 2.5 years.
Fauci would be an asset for Canada. Please! Immigrate! Get us doctors! Prepare us for whatever flu the US might be cooking up next!
It’s another round of bird flu, a new strain, we’re cooking up. It’s why chicken and eggs are so expensive. Millions have been culled. If it makes the jump to humans we’re in for a hell of a ride. Currently 50% mortality rate although that would probably be different for humans.
Pretty sure at this point he would be glad to just retire, he’s 84 after all…
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Germany eased up on naturalizations laws in the last year actually, not sure about other countries in the EU but I’m sure they’re at least making plans. There’s a skilled labor shortage everywhere and they’d love to swipe some Americans.
Yup. Other countries need to step up and take the refugees from our current Nazi president.
It’s hard to get the same rate of pay outside the US. If I moved to the UK, AND got promoted from Snr Mgr to Director I’d take a 30% pay cut on average, not to mention what I’d lose on selling my house early, transferring 401k, current liquid assets, car, moving costs for me and family as well as the emotional, social and opportunity cost of moving my wife who’d also have to secure her own package or else be out of work.
Then there’s the Visa cost.
You’re probably looking at $20-30k USD costs not including opportunity cost and salary decrease.
Money isn’t everything
Until you’re a millionaire money does buy happiness though. And becoming more poor is more expensive than becoming more rich.
Studies have shown money doesn’t buy happiness. It does buy less stress, worry and a peace of mind that you and your family will have a home and healthy food to eat without having to work 3 jobs to get it.
That is what I was alluding to yes
I wouldn’t take a 30% pay raise to move to the USA.
That’s valid, but I think that there’s going to be an increasing number of people who feel unsafe enough to take that hit, from the left/lgbt/scientific/non-caucasian communities. There’s almost inevitably going to be a brain-drain because of this, so we might as well take advantage of it
Depending on how much your insurance costs relative to your income, you’ll make up that 30% in savings.
But on the plus side, there aren’t legions of “lone wolf” nut jobs just aching to murder you in the name of Dear Leader, who Dear Leader is only too happy to encourage while taking away whatever protections you have from them.
So, you know, give and take.
Operation paperclip
They could call it Operation Caperplip!
I think many countries won’t though, out of fear of retaliation from the aforementioned orange hitler. That’s a stupid reason for the EU/UK not to take advantage though, because he’s already made clear he will antagonize US allies whenever he pleases and invent an excuse to do it.
Why would you want more Americans in your country? To stupify the populace? Or you want the skilled people to show up and take UK jobs?
As a Canadian to Americans, stay where you are and fix your damn mess. You’re all responsible for allowing it to happen, so deal with it.
a lot of people fled nazi germany before the killing started… at some point it makes sense to save yourself and your family….
it’s not my fault this happened.
btw, this election was stolen, it was mathematically obvious, by comparing polls to results, and trump essentially admitted that musk help him steal pennsylvania by knowing the voting computers so well (i assume his team did).
btw, there’s a large neo-fascist movement growing in canada right now…. go fix it.
He was the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) from 1984 to 2022… and now he is described as “former Trump aide”. What a sad destruction of a legacy.
Those 4 years don’t erase the long service. I’m glad we had fauci during those 4 years instead of a Trump toadie.
Part of me wishes faucci hadn’t been there, his legacy wouldn’t have been tarnished and a lot more trumpies would have seen the results of following Trump: death. Not that I want them dead, but if that’s what they want, I wont stop them. Ow everyone will have to suffer
No matter what would have happened, he would have blamed someone else and his followers would have listened without any question. He can shoot someone on the 5th avenue and claims it’s because of immigrants, his base will repeat “immigrants, immigrants” like a mantra.
You wallow with pigs, you get covered in pigshit.
He stayed on to try to help. Can you imagine how much worse covid could have been if we had some Trump yes man in the post? This man helped save the world from AIDS. It took a huge protest to change his mind but still.
Can you imagine how much worse covid could have been if we had some Trump yes man in the post?
We may not have to imagine, with bird flu
Oh yeah. He should have just said “Trump? Ew.” and left the populace to his whims.
Trump kept Fauci in place for the entire crisis. If Fauci was bad at his job, doesn’t that mean Trump failed the country?
I will never understand how trump killed thousands of people minimum through inaction and got away with it Scot free. Wasn’t even mentioned leading up to the election. Not in debates, articles, anywhere that I saw. The man is worse than any serial killer and never even gets a finger wag about it anymore.
From March 1, 2020, through the end of 2020, there were 522,368 excess deaths in the United States, or 22.9% more deaths than would have been expected in that time period.
That’s roughly the total COVID death toll for that period. The term “excess deaths” is used to refer to the deaths which occurred above the typical yearly mortality rate. In other words, the deaths which are roughly attributable to COVID.
I don’t know if that’s what you meant, but it would be easy to read your comment, given the context, as saying that Trump caused 522,368 deaths in 2020.
If you want to quantify the deaths caused by Trump’s mismanagement, you’d need to compare COVID deaths relative to population. I actually managed to find that (to my surprise)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
If you sort by deaths per million (total), the US is 16th from the bottom right above Brazil, Slovenia, and Lithuania. And right below Latvia, Chile, and Poland.
You could also download that data set there, find the global average, sum up the difference between that and the US, and roughly say that number is the death toll for Trump’s mismanagement.
The US population is unhealthy and there is a strong relationship between covid mortality and obesity. So some of the susceptibility cannot be blamed on a single sitting president. That said, his lying in February and March cost a lot of lives up front and that’s where he could have made the strongest impact by showing leadership and preparedness (like getting masks so HCW wouldn’t have to wear the same N95 for a month). He used an Obama-era system to boost the development of the vaccine (moderna at least). And then he bitched about lockdowns, which should have been managed dynamically based on the local healthcare system resources/capacity. But the most telling thing was, the moment he LOST the election, he abandoned the vaccine deployment efforts, so Americans lost 2 months in the rollout.
What’s infuriating, and when I realized how homicidally bad trump is was February 2020, when there was all those rapidly published data trump had access to weeks prior to publication, and he kept on calling it the “flu”. Yet wingnuts had to go over tens of thousands of Fauci emails to attack him. Yet nobody’s criticized trump’s publicly recorded lying that caused tens of thousands of preventable deaths.
Yes
No, it was actually the deep state who kept him in office!!!
You’re taking your thinking too far about things that happened a long time ago! Trump voters don’t remember shit and a lot of them probably don’t understand what they remember.
People have come to realize that leaded gasoline caused mental problems in the 1970s. My current theory is that a combination of micro plastics and post-Covid dementia is at fault.
Only slightly /s
Oh look at the time, it is quarter to “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?”.
Stochastic Terrorism
The republican party
I know, I repeat myself
It is almost like he said he expects his SA to attack him now, for fuck sake.
Well, he did not say stand back and stand by. So…yeah.
This is textbook stochastic terrorism.
Not only that, but if one of the Jan 6 crew attacks him, I fully expect Trump to pardon that person. Trump is essentially declaring hunting season open, and Republicans will let him, because he’s grabbed the party by the pussy.
A purge, except laws apply to non-magas
SA? Security advisor?
Sturmabteilung. As in “his nazi goon squad”.
Ok, thanks. Wasn’t very clear, at least for me, even though I’ve lived in Germany and the US for a long time.
Almost?
…or NKVD.
If a nutter MAGAt harmed Fauci, Mango Mussolini would pardon the bastard. That is sick.
“once we get control of all branches of government. kill him on my orders”
He could just walk up and shoot him in the head and say it was for national security. SC said thats totally cool when the president does it. Fuck he could probably make it a PPV event
He could order it and if one of his supporters kills him, trump pardons him, and trump suffers no consequences for ordering a hit
[Trump said he wouldn’t feel any responsibility if harm befell the former government officials. ]
I am not going to feel any responsibility or concern if harm befells Traitorapist Trump.
Its funny how the guy who never pays his bills holds a sermon for others.
If the act of hypocrisy could walk and talk, it’d probably throat-punch trump in the dick and call him a hypocrite.
Hypocrisy is a tool of the GQP
I’d be willing to bet that even though it probably admits to being a huge tool, hypocrisy STILL thinks the GOP are tremendous assholes.
Republicans prove time and time again they are just shit people but the American people are just too stupid and are worse than goldfish when it comes to remembering the lesson.
If anything happened to Fauci, they’d see a massive exodus from HHS and it would start a movement those gerontocrats needing doctors would not appreciate.
They all have money, they will feel no repercussions. They can buy the best Healthcare available, taking it away from others without a second thought.
It depends. Congress critters getting priority access to NIH/Walter Reed level care is one of those perks of being a politician. Of course, they can pay a lot for boutique medicine but I’d say, boutique medicine usually doesn’t provide the best care. And if they’d got to non-fed academic institutions, they’d get an earful about this fuckery.
So believe it or not, it would impact people in congress quite directly.
We already knew he feels no responsibility. You can’t expect a narcissist to be anything other than a horrible person. Its all they can be.
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