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Does it fight algorithm addiction or does it just utilise existing algorithm addiction to give you something slightly more informative?
I would disagree on the “slightly more informative” part. I have used it and in my opinion, it’s “highly informative and educational”.
It’s like what vaping is to nicotine addiction.
Better than the alternative, buttt
Butt nicotine? What kind of weird stuff you into?
I want this, but with high quality news sources. And then sort such that topics are distributed.
I’ve downloaded the app and left a five star rating. The app works great! Please show support to this developer ❤️
What app? Isnt just browser bsed?
It’s app based. I found it on Google Play.
I just installed it and was immediately annoyed by the auto-scrolling feature being turned on by default. Is that really how TikTok works? How does anyone put up with this shit?
Not sure but i support them for trying. Maybe leave a review and ask the dev to change it.
It’s not. You have to enable autoscrolling on TikTok.
I too find this such a nice refreshing take on wikipedia. It’s only been a few days, hope the developer improves it further. I realize some kind of recommendation algorithm opens a pandora’s box, but one can dream
One big thing i hope they add is sorting by topic, so i can have a biology feed, a physics feed…
This is exactly what I needed
I’m imagining one of those that feeds you random tvtropes instead
WikiTok > TikTok
I know it needs to maintain the Wiki name for branding purposes, but WikTok meshes better.
Alternatively WikiToko would be cute
WikiTiki ?
“Some people just wanna watch the world learn.”
That’s actually really cool. I like that the dev has expressed that he doesn’t want to make the algorithm addictive and just keep it random 😅
Would be cool if the official Wikipedia mobile app integrated this functionality! It does have a ‘random articles’ card, but it’s nothing like this.
Not sure ‘addiction’ is being defeated here, though 😆 Like if I’m addicted to sausages, giving me bacon instead isn’t really solving the root of the issue. The issue being those sexy, sexy pigs.
The addiction isn’t being defeated, it’s just being redirected from something worthless to something useful. Well, at least less useless.
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to fight algorithm addiction
Uuuuuh that’s not the way to fight an addiction, right? Who is this person working for, exactly?
Think of it as a methadone clinic for doomscrollers.
If methadone was also educational 🌈⭐
I may have a problem
We’re here to help! We just need someone to implement doomscroll / infiniscroll into Lemmy, lol.
I’ve got news for you: basically every app I’ve used so far for lemmy has infinite scroll. Currently Thunder previously Sync.
Honestly the fact that Lemmy doesn’t have infinite scroll (on my UI, at least) has helped me a lot in terms of not wasting hours at a time on my phone
More like a brothel for sex addicts.
Jesus. Enough hyperbolic nonsense. Browsing Wikipedia is way healthier than doom scrolling.
And doomscrolling Wikipedia is still healthier than doomscrolling anything else.
Think of it as taking methadone instead of heroin.
Ironically, my overly chatty doctor was ranting about how methadone is a racket and they string people along for years instead of titrating them off. He prescribes Suboxone, apparently.
I don’t think there’s an algorithm involved actually. Just lovely facts.
Well, there has to be some kind of algorithm. Even picking a random Wikipedia article technically is an algorithm, just not one that adapts to the user
True, but outside CS the word has come to refer to a certain brand of complex heuristics or ML inference.
An algorithm usually involves lots of complex calculations and weights. Picking a number from a pool of numbers at random is as simple as it gets.
In comsci, there are no real random numbers. They are all seeded psuedo-random number algorithms. (Unless you integrate with some third party random as a service setup)
Yes but the common interpretation of “the algorithm” is that of the social media and YouTube style one. Recommending items of interest etc but easily manipulated by bad actors.
Wiki random is about as opposite to that as possible.
That’s a common misconception. You can measure a lot of ambient noise and extract entropy. Like time between inputs or how long it took an HDD to seek.
Most modern PC CPUs even have dedicated hardware for generating random numbers from electrical ambient noise. I don’t trust them however.
Everyday I read wikipedia and everyday, I learn something new. Fucking love this free resource
WikiTok
Not sure if there’s an app yet, I found one on the Android store by Arakassia…
Most “apps” are just http web hooks to a regular website backend with extra tracking telemetry. So a website working as a PWA should be enough for everyone.
I hate how everything has to be a fucking app, because it doesn’t need to be.
If phone OSes made it so there’s less friction to save a web page as an icon on your desktop it would help to resolve that issue I think.
It’s so easy, even on iOS. Just tap share and add to Home Screen. It’s probably just as easy on android.
Yep, you’re 100% right. Not sure why I thought it was high friction. I feel like I confused trying to put an icon for an image on my home screen (gym app’s sign in QR code) with sending a web page to the home screen.
It’s very easy.
Chrome let’s you do “install” websites to home screen, Firefox allows saving shortcuts to home screen.
The annoying thing is that you can’t save them to the app drawer (at least on vanilla android), so if you have a clean home screen you have to sacrifice that.
I think that’s only partly true as companies, especially big ones, want the telemetry and control of a native app instead of just a web page
Proper PWA websites save very well to phone home screens (like voyager for Lemmy!)
It’s just two taps in browser to get it on home screen.
On android:
- Open link in Firefox.
- Tap the three dots.
- Tap “add to start screen”
There’s your app!
On iOS through Safari:
Tap the Share icon
Scroll down a little.
Add to Home Screen.
Profit?
I’m still scrolling. Will it ever stop???
help me.
Seems to work fine as a PWA-esque shortcut on iOS for the time being
I see the dev don’t want recommendation algorithm. All good to avoid the recommendation bubble, but a category/tags might be nice instead of random everything.
I recall people in the past spending their day reading random Wikipedia trivia. Overal the knowledge is rather useless.
Useless? Knowledge for the sake of itself is worth pursuing.
There is no knowledge that is not power.
Is it though?
Depends on what you’re into, what you do, etc… Could be the difference between winning Final Jeopardy and not. Or being able to identify Alessandro Gazzi by name in a police lineup, for example.
I mean you can just swipe if it’s not your jam. I think this is a great idea.
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Maybe, but you will win more pub quizzes and it’s better than brainrot content
Usless knowladge is still better than tiktok https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/07067437221082854
Information > misinformation
Knowledge is a good in and of itself
Still better than endless tiktiok scroll, me thinks
Due to shitty company pokicies where I worked, I once had a 6 month stint of reading Wikipedia 4-6 hours a day out of boredom and fuck yeah did I learn a lot of bew things. Sure, not everything sticks, but it’s enough
As opposed to spending the day reading social media where the knowledge is useful?
Because Tiktok is so much better.
