I get that some instances use the domain + TLD to make a word, like lemm.ee or to an extent, sh.itjust.works. But I’ve seen so many TLDs I had no idea existed, like .world, .zone, .social, and yes .works as well.

Is there any real reason for that? Trying to look cool or kinda underground-y? Cheaper and more varied domain options? Something actually kinda functional?

Interestingly, I started on vlemmy.net because I was a scared Reddit refugee and the .net TLD gave me comfort. Then it vanished a few days later without a trace. So here I am on lemmy.world

      • 👍Maximum Derek👍
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        One day it was just 1997. Damnedest thing, there was no vote or anything. Frankly I think it was a bad move.

          • @tburkhol
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            I hate that my brain played little riffs of both of those songs for me just by seeing their titles.

        • @[email protected]
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          In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

          • Flying Squid
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            We should never have left the oceans.

            • @Intralexical
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              Don’t say that, @FlyingSquid. You’re beautiful, and when us primates are doing ruining ourselves, you will inherit the earth and fly over mountains and forests as well.

      • @HeyThisIsntTheYMCA
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        No way dude it’s gonna be 1996 forever… Forever… Forever…

      • @[email protected]
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        I’m still waiting for .rar so I can buy unregistered.rar, which is the way it’s meant to be.

        • @[email protected]
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          Being the registered owner of unregistered.rar really doesn’t seem like the way it’s meant to be

        • PP_BOY_
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          Similarly, I’ve never seen a .xyz that wasn’t used for altchans or sketchy porn sites

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              Hurts a little that 4k users is “sizeable”, but I guess we have to start somewhere.

          • @[email protected]
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            One of the teachers at my faculty has his academic website, including course materials, on an .xyz domain.

          • @[email protected]
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            For me, that was .dance and .moe.

            And then there’s .ninja which so far has been strictly small web animations.

            I really wish Randall Monroe acquired xkcd.xyz tho.

          • Echo Dot
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            Oh, there is a website where somebody created Doom with CSS and that’s a .xyz but that tracks, because it’s 3D

        • @[email protected]
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          09 months ago

          I’m on lemmy.zip, has been swell.

          The whole zip malware hype never came to be. Try it out, your Outlook isn’t replacing xyz.zip with a link.

          I guess you could manually create a link, but those have never been safe before either as the text can be different from the URL.

          • Echo Dot
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            49 months ago

            I think the complaint is it’s just needlessly confusing and ambiguous.

            Like everyone would obviously have an issue with it if they introduced a TLD of .txt or .jpg so why is this acceptable?

            • @[email protected]
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              39 months ago

              It really doesn’t matter in my opinion.

              If you get an email and there is a link that just says “myfile.zip”, you wouldn’t click it, right? Email doesn’t support links for attachments, so it would be a web link either way. And behind that link it can be whatever, like “https://malicioussite.com/download/virus”. Actual email attachments have their own spot in your email client.

              On top of that, any URL can download a file. If you go to https://fakegoogle.com it doesn’t even have to be .zip or .jpg, the moment you get there I could start a download in your browser.

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                No it’s not that URL will download a file it’s that a URL can pretend to be a file download.

                Then all I need to do is build a website that looks like a word or something, and ask users to fill out their personal address form or something.

                It’s about the lowest common denominator, and the public are the very most common denominator. Why make life easier for scammers?

                It’s not like there’s a legitimate reason for a .zip domain

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                  No it’s not that URL will download a file it’s that a URL can pretend to be a file download.

                  Every URL can pretend to be a file download…

                  I can give you https://mydomain.com/photo.jpg and then deliver you a webpage instead of a .jpg file. The web server decides what you get in return.

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        Yeah, that domain screams scam emails to me.

        here, mr boomer target, click this file

        it’s a link that redirects to something else

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          I was surprised it took almost an entire day before appleinvoice. zip got snatched up🤣 I wonder how much appleinvoice or microsoft agreement is worth to some scammer.

          Probably not as much as something more generic like “invoices”, “emails”, “communications”

          Edit: I didn’t mean to make it a link lol… I actually have the domain blocked until I need a use for it.

      • @[email protected]
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        There are people who use (regex) blocking for the zip TLD and that other one that google released with it, for the reason that they can be very deceptive.

    • @foggy
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      It’s not that hard. Because people out there are still buying domains like tomandkatesfamouspizzacincinattiohio.net

      Please don’t work please don’t work.

      I have a few .coms that aren’t random letters, that are less than 8 characters. Got em mostly in the last decade.

  • @[email protected]
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    “Weird” TLDs tend to be cheaper. .social is also supposed to be made for this in the first place

    • Dandroid
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      icecream.social is available, and I really want it, but I just can’t justify the $800 a year, even if the name is amazing.

      • Echo Dot
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        That’s insanely expensive. I suspect that icream.socal is a lot cheaper.

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          Anything that is desirable is going to be more expensive. I share initials with a certain shoe company and a comic book company. Getting any domain name with my initials, even one of the “cheaper” TLDs is insanely expensive. Like $60K USD a year expensive.

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    The real reason is because it’s expensive to get a short and good .com name and also because it’s very corporate and boring.

  • @Chickenstalker
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    FOSS people have…weird taste in naming stuff. See: GIMP, GNU, et al.,

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        There is an entire industry “domaining” that trades domain names like baseball cards. It usually boils down to two things:

        • People register pdrq.com because they hope someone will have a wonderful new product named PDRQ later and will pay $10,000 for a domain that cost them $11.

        • Even if there’s no direct buyer, there are services that will run low-quality ads on the page. and you can more or less estimate traffic and revenue from typos or dead links pointing to the domain. A three character domain, all letters, will get more than 12 characters with random digits mixed in. If you get $12 a year of random clicks seeing ads for “hot singles in your area offering PDRQ”, you’re ahead and can justify holding it as part of a portfolio.

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          Which really illustrates how much of a bubble waiting to burst online advertising is. Ads on pages like those don’t translate into any real-world value for anyone. The advertisers are paying out but they’re not actually gaining any sales/users for their money at all because no-one is mistyping a website name, then clicking an advert on the crappy-looking page that comes up, and then deciding to buy/use a product/service from that advert.

          • @[email protected]
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            Based on my discussions with some domainers I’ve met, the ads themselves haven’t been profitable for the past 5+ years. Their renewals are done at a loss until they make a sale, which covers a few year’s worth of renewals on all their domains. It’s not as profitable as it used to be with all the new gTLDs out there

  • @[email protected]
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    They look better and more quirky than the “usual” ones. Also, sometimes they might be even cheaper

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        Definitely not. Some examples (actual prices I pay for my various domains):

        • com: $18/y (gTLD)
        • net: $19/y (gTLD)
        • de: ~$5/y (ccTLD)
        • re: ~$5/y (ccTLD)
        • design: $49/y
        • tech: $55/y
        • blue: $23/y
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          I think this depends largely on the domain name … So I’m not sure this data is all that enlightening out of context.

          • @bluefirex
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            My data just serves as a counter point to the argument “new domains are always cheaper”. Of course it depends on the domain and how greedy a particular NIC is to create a text file on a server.

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              I guess it’s a matter of semantics on the word “always”. You are technically right, it isn’t 100% of the time. But 99% or even 90% is still good enough for conventional wisdom, which might be the other interpretation here (especially in contrast to the assertion of it’s “sometimes” cheaper).