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    She should be asked in every press conference how close Trump is to firing him. When is the President going to fire Miller? They should hear it every single day.

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    I’d love to see Miller get asked that every single time he’s in front of cameras.

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    I hate how the new york times describes it. As if reasonable people could come to conclusions in support of the government. The video appears to contradict their account, type talk.

    It’s quite clear, it was clear with ms good and it’s clear with Pretti, they were executed, in cold blood, then slandered to justify it. And most conservatives have gone along, as if federal agents executing citizens without cause is an ok precedent to set, as if it will always be the others, as if it doesn’t give lie to all of their convictions and stances.

    And no, the mealy mouthed NRA deserves little credit, following it’s weak disagreement summary execution for reasons on carrying a handgun legally with a false accounting of protesters and victim blaming.

    These people are actively betraying the United States, and the weak minded amongst the conservatives are ok with it, so much have they bought into the media and influencers that have turned them against their fellow citizens, and against the country and constitution in favor of the worst people in the world getting absolute power and plunging the world into interminable darkness, so to speak.

    Every institution that previously called these people out, and resisted, gave up this time around. The NYTimes is not breaking any big scandals, and are bending over for the administration, everyone gave up prematurely here, no doubt after seeing how the democrats weren’t going to win under any circumstance.

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      everyone gave up prematurely here

      What are you talking about? NOBODY has given up, it’s still the primary story, after the immediate issue of the big storm. But the storm is over, and the ICE Executions are still the main story. Today Bovino is out, Noem is being replaced by Homan, Lewandowski is probably out, and I have heard several people demand Miller’s firing just this morning.

      This isn’t even CLOSE to over.

      Maybe you’re just one of those trolls who have been flooding social media with the “it’s no use, the Dem leaders have surrendered, we might as well surrender, too” posts.

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      The video appears to contradict their account, type talk.

      That’s because you’re used to the never ending amount of trash news sources that give no thought to objectivity, not real journalism.

      Nothing wrong at all with that statement.

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        Fairness bias. Republicans say the earth is flat, democrats say it’s round, news reports lawmakers can’t agree on shape of earth. There is an objective truth, not in question.

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      With her face resting in a jar of, what’s the shit called that q claims they harvest from trafficked children, that life force bullshit. That.

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        Adrenochrome. I find it funny how that urban myth got changed since Fear and Loathing was written.

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          Oh sorry I was going to ask, I read that book too but don’t recall that part well, what was the reference in fear and loathing about adrenochrome. I recall the adrenal gland being sold for legal services to his lawyer.

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            That was basically it. The lawyer wasn’t given the adrenal gland, just the adrenochrome. No clue what he was actually given. In the book, he says that it has to be harvested from a still living adrenal gland, not from kids.

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    Stephen Miller needs to be treated as a domestic terrorist and traitor to the United States of America.

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      The chances of him facing actual charges after Trump dies is actually very high.

      When the administration shatters and everyone is scrambling to shift blame knowing their free-pass to immunity has disappeared, they will desperately need some high-level cabinet member to point at, and this may come as a shock to everyone… but Stephen Miller is not very likeable.

      Everyone hates this guy, he is as cringe and annoying in real life as he is on camera, everyone says it. The only reason he’s there is because he learned who he can wormtongue to climb in power, and found the ultimate cursed husk to puppeteer in Trump. They will delight in throwing his gangly limbs under the bus.

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        Yeah one can only hope. I have low confidence that anything will happen to anyone when the regime falls because “we must move on with unity and forgiveness” or some shit that Democrats will say.

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          No, they can’t get away with it this time, we’ve had enough. We’ve elected these Dems to fight for us, and they’d better do it, or they’ll meet the same date as the MAGAs. As it stands, they’re feckless behavior was 50% of the reason that MAGA regained power, and they’ll be lucky if some of them, like Schumer and Jeffries, don’t end up catching a few charges for their negligence, malpractice, and malfeasance.

          Can you imagine if we let Hitler off the hook, and he rose to power again, only a few years later? We did that. If we expect America to be redeemed in the eyes of its Citizens, the World, and History, we cannot let it happen again. It will be imperative that we fully crush MAGA, declare it a National Security Threat, declare their leaders and active followers to be Domestic Terrorists, and purge them from our government and society.

          America is not in the mood to tolerate any more Democratic weakness. If they aren’t willing to stand and fight, get the fuck out of the way.

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            they’ll meet the same fate as the MAGAs

            …what, you mean they’ll gain control over the House, Senate, Presidency, and SCOTUS, and control all major media outlets, and enforce their will onto the world? MAGA isn’t meeting any fate…

            Also Capital will never allow the people to fully crush MAGA because it fundamentally is pro-technofascism. The ultra-wealthy rulers will still be the same, so no real change will occur. Until we “remove” (interpret that in a legal way) those in power like Musk, Thiel, Andreeson, Horowitz, Karp, Kevin Roberts, and about a dozen others, the problem will remain.

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              The first thing we have to do to stop the Sociopathic Oligarchs is to destroy their vehicle, which is MAGA.

              Once they are walking, we can force them to face responsibility for their behavior.

              Always remember, there are a LOT more of us, than them. A LOT more. They are very aware of it. They know that when we realize it, they are fucked.

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          It really depends on how successful the midterms are at flushing out the establishment Dems in power in house and senate, they are sweating right now because the last wave of local elections REALLY ran against the mainstream grain. Dems have been pushing back on electing open socialists and reformists running under the DNC brand, and instead of successfully squashing these runs down, they failed across the board at stopping grassroots movements.

          If Midterms flip the legislative branch significantly AND Trump can’t finish his term, we may see a wild swing back in the other direction.

          The Democrats are just a container, they’re only as strong in obstruction to change as their oldest old-money liches like Schumer and other withered old husks who’ve had their seats and committee positions for like, 3,000 years.

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            I have little faith the regime will allow free and fair elections. They’ve done so much evil to get to this point, they’re wouldn’t dare risk actually letting the will of the people be carried out.

            I expect this summer and fall to be the worst in my lifetime, because things are gonna get heavy.

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              They’re proving over and over again they don’t have control over much, if they did we wouldn’t have seen so many leftists, dems and open socialists take lead of cities and states last cycle. They tried too.

              The problem for them that both they and us often forget about is that the USA isn’t one big country like Iran or Venezuela that can have their entire election system rigged by one small group. USA is 50 individual states. Remember, “State” basically means “nation.”

              We have 50 individual nations with their own security, their own election systems, their own laws and rules. It takes a MASSIVE effort to go everywhere in this landscape, and even if they had the balls to risk something that big, they don’t have the manpower.

              Not saying it’s impossible for them to fuck it all up, they will absolutely try. But I don’t think their success rate is nearly as high as they want you to think it is. They want you say “What good is it” and throw your hands up. They did more to suggest that they’re going to cheat than actual cheating because they want people to feel powerless. We’re not powerless, we still have 50 different nations with different agendas and people.

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      Arrest, prosecute, jail, hang (until dead. Give it a week or so).

      You can do that process in any order you like though…

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        If I saw on the news he was treated like Gadaffi at the end, I’d be pleasantly surprised. However I do believe he should be publicly arrested, tried, convicted, and sent to rot in prison for the rest of his life.

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          I was like that about tRUMP. I was ecstatic when the top secret documents trial was getting some traction, I actually believed -stupidly- that this time the obese child rapist was going to feel some consequences.
          Now, death. There will never be any consequences. So death is my new hope.

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        Hang him low enough we can piss on him.

        … Or, better yet, a pissing platform, like a diving board, elevated.

        Wait if I invent this can it be named after me?

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      These people look different every time I see them, like they’re trying to erase what their souls have written on their faces.

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        I was randomly thinking about John Boehner last night and wondering if shit like this is the real reason why he’d burst into tears all the time. Like his conscious was betraying him as he lied and spread disinformation for the GOP.

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      integrity. they probably think that word is referencing a few SouthPark episodes on ‘the devils lettuce’

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    Asked why administration officials like Miller and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem jumped to conclusions “before an investigation had even been conducted,” Leavitt said, “Well, look, this has obviously been a very fluid and fast-moving situation throughout the weekend, as President Trump, whom I speak for, he has said that he wants to let the investigation continue and let the facts lead in this case

    Ok? Why didn’t you do that?

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      “Facts” doesn’t mean the same thing to them as it does to you and me. I can already tell you what the conclusion of their investigation will be.

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      “whom I speak for”

      Pretty fast to grab the reins on that one, hmmm

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        To be fair, speaking for him is literally and officially her job 🤷

        To be more fair and also more accurate, though, lying her ass off for him is her ACTUAL job.

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      Those on trial at Nuremburg mostly continued to hold their horrific views right through their executions.

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        Also reminder that the vast majority of Nazis were not executed at Nuremberg. They were freed, and went on to join the nascent NATO and West German government.

        The first NATO general was a Nazi general. The first president of the German intelligence agency was a Nazi spy master.

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        Yeah but those people actually believed things. Our people are sniveling shitheads whose beliefs only extend to the extent they can benefit from them.

        Except Stephen Miller, maybe.

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          Except Stephen Miller, maybe.

          I was about to say, Miller is a true fascist, racist cunt and is not apologetic about if. He’ll go to his grave telling you he’s superior to everyone. Hopefully the wait for that moment is brief.

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          Curtis Yarvin too. He’s the “philosopher” behind Thiel, Musk, Andreeson, Ben Horowitz, Brian Armstrong, and the other technofascists running the coup that’s happening now.

          Oh also Kevin Roberts of the Heritage Foundation. He is a straight up domestic terrorist (he said it himself) and needs to be handled as such.

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      I can’t wait to watch them try to weasel their way out of a noose.

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        Stephen Miller’s slimy featureless cylindrical head would probably slip right through.

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      Jesus will return the day after this happens.

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        You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.

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        Cynicism sucks. It convinces people that it’s not worth trying. Including the person spreading it.

        It’s always worth trying.

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          That opinion prevents us from achieving goals as much as any. Pretending we can do things we are in no position to do means we don’t honestly size up the problem, and change the situation to do those things.

          You can’t fix a problem if you won’t even define it accurately.

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            It’s defined accurately. We didn’t vote, we got what we deserved.

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              Speak for yourself, and stop assuming things about other people to make them look like assholes to avoid acknowledging the issue at hand.

              It’s unanswerable, so you have to obscure with libel I get it. Your influencers taught you how to do it. You trust they know what they are doing, despite, you know, things.

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                Speak for yourself, and stop assuming things about other people to make them look like assholes to avoid acknowledging the issue at hand.

                I did vote, because I’m not a fucking moron. If you did vote, it sure seems like you spent more time convincing others not to. Also, YEAH, I can speak for others, I’m merely recounting what they expressed.

                It’s unanswerable

                No it’s not. The answer is 10 million less voted. That’s the answer. We won in 2020 because that group of people voted. Somehow these idiots forgot who Trump was.

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                  It’s everyone else’s fault for not believing hard enough. Sure pretending democrats are good hasn’t worked for three elections in a row, and they only win as a rejection of the other party, and are running as status quo against a republican party running as reform. Sure we know voters don’t know better and or won’t support an ever degenerating democratic party because the other guy is worse, while the whole system is crashing around us.

                  We all see everything failing, lying about it doesn’t win elections, recognizing it and promising to do something about it does. And “winning” with these democrats changes nothing, it puts off a faster degeneration a few years, things still get worse, nothing is fixed.

                  You really don’t have a leg to stand on, and are helping the republicans win more than the maga diehards, yelling down everyone trying to get winning candidates, and candidates that will address the causes of America’s decline, not just throw money at the fallout from the problems.

                  You should reexamine whom you trust. You follow the lead of the people that brought us the last three elections, and that shitshow Biden ran? You knew everyone else wasn’t content with it even if you were. But didn’t feel they needed a new strategy?

                  You were fucked the moment kamala got the nomination, and I’m not going to go on the defensive for bad faith slanders meant to distract from the issue. You force candidates that can’t win, won’t meet the moment. We need real leadership, someone to build and run a political machine, and instead we are given weak corporate whores unwilling to fight for, or indeed allow, popular reform. Not in law, not in the party. Their, and by extension your, reason for being is preventing popular reform.

                  Meanwhile the electorate knows they are being screwed, if not by whom. I shouldn’t have to explain this to you, and you are purposefully not acknowledging the issue, unanswered as of yet, despite several rounds of baseless accusations. As I said, how you are taught. To be the controlled opposition to the Republicans, so they can win.

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            The person I replied to was effectively saying those people will never face justice. I am saying that if enough people say that out loud, it’s actually causing it to be true.

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              I realize that yet the good news people that demand we not be honest so they can continue to try and help are utilized by those hostile to changing anything for the better. It’s a function of not having any leadership, of fighting under controlled opposition, and being divided and perverted at every turn I’m afraid. Nothing for it until we get organized and some real leadership.

              But we can at least try, as you say. Like I know I am not going to get a winnable slate of popular reformists in 2028, that the republicans will win, especially with their cheating, and by then the fix will be put in beyond recovery. It may be too late already. Or 2024, when an unpopular sell out was anointed with 4 plus months to go without challenge, whose approval never breached 30% all term, and ran as status quo under a president at 40% approval for 3 years, that accomplished zero real reform, (unless you count shoveling money to donors as reform, which it’s not,) didn’t try to reform. But I tried anyway to get winnable candidates, tried to get Newsom or Pritzker to stand up and take the top job. They both decided to wait their turn, and now they can’t win, and we need a new candidate, if they were leaders they would’ve taken the job.

              Zero challenges for any leadership, house and senate have undisputed leaders despite both parties in congress ranking about as popular as syphillis. Something is broken in the democratic party, the donors have made sure we are saddled with weak candidates that won’t revoke the license granted continually to the rich to take more from everyone else.

              All of that to say, the good news people are tooled to prevent acknowledgement of the democratic leadership being unable to win elections, and unwilling to do anything with it if they do. Even in the face of a fascist kakistocracy openly planning on killing the republic in all but name, preventing such the first duty of a political party. Yet acknowledging the situation is “pessimistic,” and blamed for their candidates losing, as if we didn’t already know what the electorate is and what they will vote for generally.

              We are tooled every which way, because we are not organized, and they are. Numerous other groups are organized, and they make sure we aren’t, are at each other’s throats, and to kill any popular reform in the cradle. Even now, at the dawn of an unthinkable fate. Popular reform is the enemy to those we fight under, dooming us to the fake popular reform of the Right seeking to fix elections permanently, in a very violent genocidey sort of way at that. You know it’s bad, but it’s worse than that.

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    Even if he apologizes we all know that Steven Miller is a soulless ghoul. An apology and word only is no apology at all, and that’s assuming that he will even do that much. I can’t remember him ever apologizing for anything before, so…

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      You blame everyone that already told you they wouldn’t vote for them, not the people that chose a candidate that no one would vote for. Brilliant take mate.

      We all knew what the electorate was, you refused to do anything differently, and lost to the most unpopular person in the country, deeply hated, by choosing the only person with lower approvals to run as the status quo with the republicans running as reform.

      Don’t let a score or more of half wits make you think you are right, you are the problem, you are why we lost, and the bots and influence agents are inflating your votes, to help saddle us with losing candidates, you better believe it.

      Get your head out of the billionaires’ asses and do better.

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        You blame everyone that already told you they wouldn’t vote for them, not the people that chose a candidate that no one would vote for. Brilliant take mate.

        No one would vote for IN FACE OF TRUMP. What fucking excuse do you have?

        So fucking sick of this bullshit. Ten million less voted for essentially a younger Biden. What makes Trump preferable to her?

        This is ENTIRELY on the stupid fucking voters that screwed their own interests based on some non-sensical hissy fit. They fucked up, they do not get a pass.

        Every single person who helped bring this about is a massive piece of shit.

        You really stuck to the billionaires by helping Trump get elected. You did what the billionaires want. Stupid fucking dumbass, you’re the billionaire lover.

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          You are lobbing slanders to obscure the issue. Your candidates can’t win, won’t do anything if they win. You accusing everyone of not believing hard enough isn’t helping either. Helping get candidates that can’t win reliably, if at all, and will do nothing with it if they win in spite of themselves as a rejection of the other party.

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      https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5447450/trump-2024-election-non-voters-coalition

      No, it didn’t, so you can stop spreading disinformation like your Republican counterparts. Feckless Democrats brought this on by making themselves unelectable. Harris spent half her campaign parading around with the Stephen Miller of the early 2000s expecting a groundswell of support because of it. Your leaders failed you and I would not be the least bit shocked to discover that they did it on purpose considering their continued support for Trump’s policies in the house and senate including a vote to increase funding for ICE just last week.

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      Well yeah, russia is pretty great at stirring up shit online.