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    One thing to know about French language, is that whenever there is a grammar rule, it only covers at best 50% of cases and the rest are exceptions to the rule.

    For instance:

    • cigar -> cigarette
    • trompe -> trompette
    • (Cool, looks like we have a rule here)
    • baguette, must be a small bague, right ? WRONG ! It’s a small bâton.
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      bâton

      That doesn’t seem to be the case. It seems to be imported from Italian and doesn’t have a form of the base word

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        Baguette has many senses in French. One of them is a small or thin stick, a regular stick is a bâton. I don’t know the etymological details, but as for sense these words today, it remains true that baguette is a kind of small bâton.

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    Baguette is genuinely a diminutive, but the French is a loanword from Italian bacchetta “little stick,” from bacchio “stick.”

    Funnily enough, “bacteria” also means “little stick” due to the shape of the first ones seen under a microscope, and the word shares the same etymological root (reconstructed as *bak- in proto-Indo-European), but in Greek – bakterion is a little staff, baktron is a staff or stick without the diminutive.

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      So Bacteria indeed implies the existence of Baktron

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      There is also the french word bague but that means ring, as in wedding ring type ring not a bell ringing.

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    What is a Bagu and where do I get it?

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    Mosquito implies the existence of a far larger Mosqo.

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    People in this thread: Hey, I’ll do etymology in the wrong language, it’s all the same anyway.

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    That reminds me of a lame oneliner I came up with years ago:

    … but no cigar sir! Not even cigarette, don’t even mention cigarillo!

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    I would be so pissed if my bus ticket from Newark to Paris was rendered worthless because I couldn’t buy cigars by the bague.