U.S. intelligence raises fears of civil unrest and state breakdown in Israel ahead of October 27 elections.

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    One of the deepest fractures in Israeli politics has emerged not over opposition to the country’s war crimes—but over who is expected to fight and who is exempt.

    In case anyone’s confused the contradictions include regrets over what’s been done in Gaza.

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      Yup. Young men pretend to be Haredi for a few years to avoid service so now they only have the ultra theological nuts to draft from.

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      It’s:

      1. I want war crimes done by ME.

      2. I want war crimes, but just enjoy watching not risking my life on them.

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    CIA reports what Isreal wants them to report. So Netanyahu wants you to think the country is close to collapse. So that he can justify emergency powers to keep himself in power indefinitely.

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      Seems like many prominent politicians are aging, nearing the end of their lives and just want to go out with a bang.

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      Yeah, the CIA isn’t just going to give out info for the sake of giving out info. I dont know what the thought is, but there’s something behind it.

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        Well given the fact it’s currently effectively a dictatorship I can’t see how it can degrade any further.

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          Israel has around 90 nuclear warheads with the materials to build up to about 200. The only thing I can imagine being worse is if idiots even more unhinged than their current government acquire and use them. Yes, the bar is that low.

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            Yes, because disregard all historical background as everyone knows without western enlightenment all brown people revert to their natural state, being terrorists.

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                No, you show me examples of

                A power vacuum leads to extremely powerful terrorist groups forming who take over the region

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            So you’re saying that worst case, nothing changes? Israel is already an extremely powerful terrorist group with nuclear weapons lol

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              I would be shocked if the UN did anything substantial here. If they do anything, they’d probably re-declare Mandatory Palestine and give it to Donald Trump.

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        Except for all their neighbours they’re illegally occupying and all the countries of the region

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      That’s what I said, out loud, as the comments loaded, right at the instant before this popped up.

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    The CIA also spent 13 years hunting Radovan Karadžić, a Serbian who was living a public life in Serbia.

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    Well, I predict LOTS of civil wars in LOTS of places, especially as the environment collapses and basic needs aren’t met.

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    Total collapse? Oh, no. Golly, how awful! I mean, gosh and gee whillikers, I sure hope that doesn’t happen. I hope it a lot.

    Oh, wait …

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    “As we’re moving forward with further integrating our military-industrial capacity with them, there’s deep frustration that we’re doing this for a country that dragged us into a war we’re losing, a country that spies on us.”

    Then fucking stop!

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        After I posted it, I realized that it could easily be misread but I don’t know of another term to use to describe Christians who believe in a post-apocalyptic millenium of peace & happiness (as long as you believe in Jesus, that is).

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    Over what? Half the country likes genocide and the other half likes genocide, too? All these terrorist countries like Israel, the USA and Russia can all go to hell.

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      One side wants to genocide harder while the other prefers a more “civilized” genocide.

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        I think it’s more of a one side wants to genocide and participate in it and the other prefers to just watch and not enlist and risks itself.

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      This is exactly what I thought. What are they going to fight about exactly? Who gets to genocide the locals first? In Israel you have the far right and the farrer right

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    The August report, titled “Fracture From Within,” was compiled by experts in the CIA’s Red Cell, according to two U.S. sources who described the contents of the report to Drop Site News. The Red Cell, which is the unit responsible for providing “alternative analysis” within the agency, produced the assessment through a combination of open source information and U.S. intelligence… The CIA’s “red teams” are tasked with developing analysis and ideas that challenge prevailing assumptions and expose groupthink or blind spots that can take hold within the intelligence apparatus.

    Basically, this is “what’s the weirdest shit that is kinda plausible if things don’t go how our consensus expects.” Useful I assume, but by definition unlikely.

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    Let’s hope that happens soon! Holding my thumbs!

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      For 1200 years under the Ottomans, the Ottomans owned everything, and the local inhabitants were simply allowed to reside on the land
      

      Not true again, read about the Ottoman Land Code of 1858 for instance.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Land_Code_of_1858

      In 1858 the Ottoman Empire introduced The Ottoman Land Code of 1858, requiring land owners to register ownership. The reasons behind the law were twofold. (1) to increase tax revenue, and (2) to exercise greater state control over the area.

      Opposition

      Small farmers, however, saw no need to register claims, for several reasons:

      Land owners were subject to military service in the Ottoman Army
      General opposition to official regulations from the Ottoman Empire
      Evasion of taxes and registration fees to the Ottoman Empire
      

      Outcome

      The registration process itself was open to manipulation. Land collectively owned by village residents was registered in the name of a single landowner, with merchants and local Ottoman administrators registering large stretches of land in their own name. The result was land that became the legal property of people who may have never lived there, while locals, even those who had lived on the land for generations, became tenants of absentee owners.


      These were the large tracts Jews bought. Non-Jewish “owners” sold out their own “people” for profit in Jewish money. Later in the Ottoman era, when buying inhabited land became troublesome due the land containing existing inhabitants, it became more common for such purchase agreements to stipulate removal of occupants before payment. Owners- even Arab owners- willingly complied with this contractual stipulation, for Jewish cash. Laws can read one way, but the way they are put into practice in reality can hobble them or completely reverse their intent.