As in, would the channel be losing out on money? Because I don’t want to take away from small creators if there is a retention rate for viewership of that exact segment, but I would prefer to skip any of the “but first check out this shitty mobile game”.
I won’t sit through a non-organic product placement. If I’m watching a guy weld up a body panel and he tells me how great a welder is, it doesn’t bother me. If I’m watching and he starts telling me about his VPN or a phone game, that shit’s getting skipped.
You know how I like to prepare for replacing a carburetor? PLAYING RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS!
At this point I’m wondering if any one has ever actually played this game or if it even really exists. Everyone hates that shit and it’s so over the top. They don’t let the people they sponsor put any kind of a spin on it either it’s just this completely alien and obnoxiously long diatribe where you can just about see the creator blinking in Morse code.
Every ad I’ve seen for it shows a completely different game. I almost want to run it just to see what it actually is, but I refuse to give them the traffic.
Product placement has got to the point where if a YouTuber genuinely wants to recommend a product he’s got to be like “seriously guys I didn’t get paid for this and I even paid my own money for this welder, this is not a sponsorship, I just think it’s really good and you should check it out”
I watch several channels where people just mow lawns or do other landscaping work (it’s my version of ASMR; doing yard work was a nostalgic childhood memory of mine).
One of the guys I watch bragged about how amazing his riding mower was. He swore up and down he wasn’t a shill for the company, and he even painted over their logo so he wasn’t inadvertently advertising their brand on his channel. But he said it was the best mower he’s used in decades of work.
I really like when they drink the green goo and pretend it’s the best.
It seems like a lot of businesses have a turnkey affiliate/referral rewards program. Like how anyone can go set up Amazon affiliate links.
But the creator presents it as a sponsorship. “Today’s video is sponsored by SquareSpace!”
No it’s not, you’re just posting your affiliate link.
Not really. Content creators get an upfront amount to run the ad then either a fee per click on the sponsored link or when their code is used at checkout.
So by watching the ad and not using the promotion is the same as not watching the ad.
Also, your “view” still counts towards the content creator’s metrics (assuming you watch enough of the video). So the creator can use your view to sell more ads, whether you watch them or not.
It’s likely that more savvy advertisers are using video heat maps to see which types of videos get people to actually watch the ad, but the metrics on that are probably not as informative as just view count.
I recommend sponsorblock browser extension. Skips sponsored segments automatically.
How’s it detect them?
People who watch the video early mark where the ad is.
Love that.
Crowd sourced from other viewers
Crowd sourced.
Immediately, no. The advert payments don’t pay attention to you skipping the advert.
Over time, as people skip the ads, the value that advertisers put on the ads will diminish, as they realise that people won’t see them.
The best solution would be to make the advert relevant to the video, or making them actually interesting (Like TomSka’s over the top SurfShark ads), but that’s me overthinking things again.I’d 100% say that I’m less likely to skip an in-video sponsor segment if the creator has tried to make it a bit more entertaining than just an ad copy read with logos and stock footage of people walking on a beach.
I’d say map men and boyinaband are two that jump out to me as having several I’ve not skipped, there’s obviously others.
If advertisers aren’t already on to this, those are the spots they want to be paying for, and I’d hope that means the creators doing them are getting paid a lot for them
InternetHistorians ads are worth watching on their own
How do the advertisers know how frequently in-video ads have been skipped? Do they ask for historical data on this from the YouTuber before brokering the sponsorship for an individual video?
They don’t, they see how many people use the special link (Join now at www.superaids.com/yewtewber for 10% off your first order!) and if they find that fewer people are responding to the ads, the ads are simply worth less. If you skip ads without thinking, or worse with a plugin, then you won’t ever see the ads that might actually interest you, and the use of those links will decrease.
Woodworking for Mere Mortals had some great Microjig ads for a while until he ended the partnership
No, the creator has been paid for the sponsorship beforehand. If you were never going to get the products that are sponsored then there’s no difference between skipping it or letting it play and ignoring it.
I mean yeah, youtube does track the times in videos people do watch and are engaged in, but by skimming through almost any video you can see many people skip around and don’t actually watch the full videos.
Sponsorblock just saves me from manually skipping past the sponsorships. I was never going to buy a shilled product to begin with anyway. I buy things based on my own research, not what a youtuber says I should buy.
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Some sponsors will pay additional money based on how many people use a provided promo link or promo code, but if you never click/use those anyway, you’re not costing the channel anything.
I am paying $15 (or is it $18 already) for YouTube each month not to watch the adds. I am skipping those angrily on principle.
YouTube premium, as far as I’m aware, still shares some of your monthly membership fee to the creators you watch to offset not seeing ads. I also am a premium member and feel no guilt at all about skipping sponsorship sections because of this.
If you are on Android, you really should download ReVanced. You can add adblock and sponsorblock, and you will barely ever see ads again.
I actually refused to watch YT on mobile because it was too annoying an experience, but 'vanced makes it much more like the good old days of no ads everywhere.
Vanced is advanced with ‘ad’ removed btw.
Does it support chromecasting? That is the only think keeping to the official yt app on mobile.
Otherwise I am using FF with an adblocker.
I found it a bit tedious having to build a new version whenever it broke. It’s a bit less convenient but now I just click stare then Newpipe sponsorblock.
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Damn paying $15 for YouTube when ublock origin and sponsorblock are browser extensions, and YouTube Revanced does everything YouTube plus gives you entirely for free on android.
Damn paying $15 for a service that is almost the sole source of my daily entertainment, crazy
It’s not difficult. I like thing. I pay for thing so thing sticks around.
Why pay anything when you can literally get it free lol
Why wouldn’t I pay for something that I enjoy? I am fully aware of the cost of adblock and piracy, and I’ve decided that if I’m going to use adblock, then I’m going to pay for services I legitimately enjoy. I don’t bother with one-off services or things I rarely use, but I’m perfectly fine paying for things. I’m not hurting for cash.
Making enough money to live and also expecting everything for free is just greed.
Google makes more than enough to live, yet they demand more and you give it to them? How is that not greed.
If I’m blocking ads and not paying for premium, the channels I watch make absolutely nothing on my view. It doesn’t sit right with me to consume content without giving anything in return. Paying for premium, which distributes half of what I pay to the creators I watch, fulfills that well enough that I’m fine paying for it. YouTube Music is just a bonus.
You watching it for free is not only taking money from Google but taking money from the channels you watch. Do whatever you want, I don’t care, but at least understand the consequences of your actions. I for one don’t like the idea of doing it, myself.
Their income isn’t my problem
I’d rather be greedy than give my money to the likes of Google, Spotify, etc. I’m not hurting for cash either, I just like shit for free. But hey as long as we have goody two shoes like you us pirates can continue getting what we want for free so keep it up!
I’m not paying to give money to Google, I’m paying for no ads on any devices (including my NVIDIA Shield) and more importantly half of the fee goes to the creators I watch.
I’m perfectly happy stealing from billion dollar corporations.
I’m not happy stealing from small businesses.
Yep, but I have Samsung TV, and this is where I watch it.
Get a cheap android streaming stick and then sideload Smarttube next. All of YouTube premiums features for free including sponsorblock, ad block, miniplayer outside of the app, etc
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I use ublock origin and sponsorblock, I’m not sitting through ads or product shillings.
Don’t worry about channel creators losing money. It may seem like a dick move, but it’s the right thing to do. When channels see that they aren’t making money on Youtube ad revenue, they’ll be forced to either find another source of income (merch, patreon, alternate site, etc), or quit.
That’s better for you, them, and society as a whole since it reduces the power of a monopoly owned by an evil company.
The custom-made “sponsors” sections that are baked into the video are not paid per view. You can freely skip them without harming the content creator. iirc they get paid per video upload, not per view. it’s only the “live” separate ads that appear prior to the video, mid-roll, etc. that they get paid per view (and would be missing if you block them).
I release music via distributor to all music streaming platforms including YouTube. When playing my music, youtube puts ads before and sometimes after the video. Does that mean I’m getting a share of that ad revenue by default? Or is it for specific content creators that have a minimum number of subscribers only?
music is different. youtube has a deal with your label which states they pay $0.0000x dollars per stream, and your label gives you a part of that.
Right, that I’m aware of. So I guess youtube just keeps that ad revenue for the ones they show with my music.
If you’re going through a music label then ask the company you’re working with. They absolutely get paid per view (as per the pre-roll ads) if you aren’t managing the uploads yourself. But what they pay you may be different depending on what they’re doing.
Youtube content creators get paid via a few different methods:
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Pre-roll and mid-roll ads. This is youtube’s actual and intended monetization method. These are ads that play that are separate from the video and are personalized per-user. They often have a “skip” button you can click after a few seconds. Youtube pays creators per view for these ads. You should check youtube’s monetization section on the channel settings to set this all up.
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Sponsors. These are baked into the video where the content creator usually goes something like “Yeah I enjoy my switch, but do you know what I like more? raid shadow legends!” These are one-time payments made prior to the video’s release, and are not paid per view. The view count on the video and whether or not people are actually watching the sponsored section is irrelevant.
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Patreon and other patreon-like services. These are entirely unrelated to viewcount or ads, and are just people paying monthly on some other site (typically patreon or locals) to help fund the channel.
For music, I’m not sure at all how the youtube music platform works. But afaik youtube music is just youtube videos in a different format, so you’d be going with method #1 with the pre-roll ads.
Typically youtube’s monetization model requires that you actually set things up, and in order to do so you need to meet particular criteria (particular subscriber counts, view counts, etc). I know musicians work with music labels, so that may work differently depending on what’s going on for you. But if you’re specifically managing a youtube channel where you upload videos, then #1 applies and just check the monetization section. I don’t think it’s “by default”.
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Technically no, has other people been saying. But long-term yes. Creatives need to have a revenue stream, so if everyone starts skipping all the sponsored segments, the revenue from sponsored segments will go down. Or it will change the nature of it so instead of a 30-second pitch, it will be incorporated into the main video constantly.
If you’re talking about a small creator, who’s not doing it full-time, consider donating to them directly. Most usually have the Patreon or something.
If you mean the ads that are actually part of video where the YouTuber is just reading the ad themselves, I don’t think it makes a big difference. It might impact their metrics a little since you’re fast forwarding part of the video but that’s it
If sponsors cared they can look at the,( I don’t know the name) bar that shows how far the video in a long. On you there is a chart that says where people will skip to ( on computer). On almost every sponsored video there is a huge spike right at the end of the sponsorship. It takes a few days for this to show up but it always shows the same spike
As far as I know sponsors have no access to data on how many people watch their segments as opposed to whole-video viewership, unless they force the creator to disclose it which I doubt happens basically at all. Creator gets paid upfront and a kickback for using their link, not for you watching an in-video ad itself.
I do pay for YouTube premium. This means the creator of the video gets payed by watchtime. Why should I pay for watching an in-video ad?
For normal users it doesn’t matter, as the creator is payed by view, not watchtime. And from what I know, sponsor deals are either fixed value or fixed value per X views. So it doesn’t impact them if people are skipping.
